We're not the worst?

I was sure Arizona would rank much worse than Californicate!

I'm not surprised that New York has the worst drivers per GMAC
insurance.

Take the test yourself he http://nationaldriverstest.com/

State Rankings for best/worst drivers:
Note: Many states tied for the same position in the rankings.

1 IDAHO
1 WISCONSIN
3 MONTANA
4 KANSAS
5 SOUTH DAKOTA
5 NEBRASKA
7 UTAH
8 WYOMING
8 IOWA
8 OREGON
8 MINNESOTA
12 ALASKA
12 NORTH DAKOTA
14 VERMONT
15 COLORADO
15 MISSOURI
17 OKLAHOMA
17 WASHINGTON
19 NEW MEXICO
20 NORTH CAROLINA
21 VIRGINIA
22 INDIANA
22 MICHIGAN
24 ARKANSAS
24 TEXAS
26 ALABAMA
26 NEVADA
28 WEST VIRGINIA
29 ILLINOIS
30 ARIZONA
31 MAINE
32 DELAWARE
33 NEW HAMPSHIRE
34 OHIO
35 KENTUCKY
36 PENNSYLVANIA
37 LOUISIANA
38 TENNESSEE
38 MISSISSIPPI
40 SOUTH CAROLINA
40 MARYLAND
42 CONNECTICUT
43 FLORIDA
44 DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
45 MASSACHUSETTS
46 RHODE ISLAND
47 GEORGIA
48 CALIFORNIA
49 HAWAII
50 NEW JERSEY
51 NEW YORK


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have to admit that i got one wrong... number 8. i did not know that it was
legal to pass on the right on a two lane highway. always thought that slow
vehicles are supposed to keep to the right so faster ones could pass on the
left. seems dangerous to me.

"XS11E" > wrote in message
. ..
>I was sure Arizona would rank much worse than Californicate!
>
> I'm not surprised that New York has the worst drivers per GMAC
> insurance.
>
> Take the test yourself he http://nationaldriverstest.com/
>
> State Rankings for best/worst drivers:
> Note: Many states tied for the same position in the rankings.
>
> 1 IDAHO
> 1 WISCONSIN
> 3 MONTANA
> 4 KANSAS
> 5 SOUTH DAKOTA
> 5 NEBRASKA
> 7 UTAH
> 8 WYOMING
> 8 IOWA
> 8 OREGON
> 8 MINNESOTA
> 12 ALASKA
> 12 NORTH DAKOTA
> 14 VERMONT
> 15 COLORADO
> 15 MISSOURI
> 17 OKLAHOMA
> 17 WASHINGTON
> 19 NEW MEXICO
> 20 NORTH CAROLINA
> 21 VIRGINIA
> 22 INDIANA
> 22 MICHIGAN
> 24 ARKANSAS
> 24 TEXAS
> 26 ALABAMA
> 26 NEVADA
> 28 WEST VIRGINIA
> 29 ILLINOIS
> 30 ARIZONA
> 31 MAINE
> 32 DELAWARE
> 33 NEW HAMPSHIRE
> 34 OHIO
> 35 KENTUCKY
> 36 PENNSYLVANIA
> 37 LOUISIANA
> 38 TENNESSEE
> 38 MISSISSIPPI
> 40 SOUTH CAROLINA
> 40 MARYLAND
> 42 CONNECTICUT
> 43 FLORIDA
> 44 DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
> 45 MASSACHUSETTS
> 46 RHODE ISLAND
> 47 GEORGIA
> 48 CALIFORNIA
> 49 HAWAII
> 50 NEW JERSEY
> 51 NEW YORK
>
>
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On Fri, 22 May 2009 10:44:11 -0400, "Christopher Muto" >
wrote:

>have to admit that i got one wrong... number 8. i did not know that it was
>legal to pass on the right on a two lane highway. always thought that slow
>vehicles are supposed to keep to the right so faster ones could pass on the
>left. seems dangerous to me.

Laws vary from state to state, of course. But most contain an exception for
passing on the right "in "anes of continuous traffic."

-- Larry

XS11E wrote:
> I was sure Arizona would rank much worse than Californicate!
>
> I'm not surprised that New York has the worst drivers per GMAC
> insurance.
>
> Take the test yourself he http://nationaldriverstest.com/
>
> State Rankings for best/worst drivers:
> Note: Many states tied for the same position in the rankings.
>
> 1 IDAHO
> 1 WISCONSIN
> 3 MONTANA
> 4 KANSAS
> 5 SOUTH DAKOTA
> 5 NEBRASKA
> 7 UTAH
> 8 WYOMING
> 8 IOWA
> 8 OREGON
> 8 MINNESOTA
> 12 ALASKA
> 12 NORTH DAKOTA
> 14 VERMONT
> 15 COLORADO
> 15 MISSOURI
> 17 OKLAHOMA
> 17 WASHINGTON
> 19 NEW MEXICO
> 20 NORTH CAROLINA
> 21 VIRGINIA
> 22 INDIANA
> 22 MICHIGAN
> 24 ARKANSAS
> 24 TEXAS
> 26 ALABAMA
> 26 NEVADA
> 28 WEST VIRGINIA
> 29 ILLINOIS
> 30 ARIZONA
> 31 MAINE
> 32 DELAWARE
> 33 NEW HAMPSHIRE
> 34 OHIO
> 35 KENTUCKY
> 36 PENNSYLVANIA
> 37 LOUISIANA
> 38 TENNESSEE
> 38 MISSISSIPPI
> 40 SOUTH CAROLINA
> 40 MARYLAND
> 42 CONNECTICUT
> 43 FLORIDA
> 44 DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
> 45 MASSACHUSETTS
> 46 RHODE ISLAND
> 47 GEORGIA
> 48 CALIFORNIA
> 49 HAWAII
> 50 NEW JERSEY
> 51 NEW YORK

I imagine I'm not the only one to notice the tendency for low density states
to rank near the top and high density states near the bottom. You don't
suppose this is because it's harder to hit something when there's nothing
around to hit, do you? And therefore the results have little, if anything,
to do with the quality of drivers.

In article >,
"Frank Berger" > wrote:

> I imagine I'm not the only one to notice the tendency for low density states
> to rank near the top and high density states near the bottom. You don't
> suppose this is because it's harder to hit something when there's nothing
> around to hit, do you? And therefore the results have little, if anything,
> to do with the quality of drivers.

Possibly. But it may also correlate with the faster pace of life in
urban areas, and the impatience, rudeness, and selfishness it engenders.

If there's a listing for road rage, it would be no surprise if it were
substantially identical to this one.

--
Lanny Chambers
St. Louis, MO
'94C

"Frank Berger" > wrote:

> I imagine I'm not the only one to notice the tendency for low
> density states to rank near the top and high density states near
> the bottom. You don't suppose this is because it's harder to hit
> something when there's nothing around to hit, do you?

No, because the rankings are based entirely on the test results, not
any accident or citation figures.

> And therefore the results have little, if anything, to do with the
> quality of drivers.

I suspect that people who don't know the traffic laws (and don't do
well on the test) would possibly be the worst drivers.



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You got bit by 'legal' VS 'correct' on that one.

Chris
99BBB

"Christopher Muto" > wrote in message
t...
> have to admit that i got one wrong... number 8. i did not know that it
> was legal to pass on the right on a two lane highway. always thought that
> slow vehicles are supposed to keep to the right so faster ones could pass
> on the left. seems dangerous to me.
>
> "XS11E" > wrote in message
> . ..
>>I was sure Arizona would rank much worse than Californicate!
>>
>> I'm not surprised that New York has the worst drivers per GMAC
>> insurance.
>>
>> Take the test yourself he http://nationaldriverstest.com/
>>
>> State Rankings for best/worst drivers:
>> Note: Many states tied for the same position in the rankings.
>>
>> 1 IDAHO
>> 1 WISCONSIN
>> 3 MONTANA
>> 4 KANSAS
>> 5 SOUTH DAKOTA
>> 5 NEBRASKA
>> 7 UTAH
>> 8 WYOMING
>> 8 IOWA
>> 8 OREGON
>> 8 MINNESOTA
>> 12 ALASKA
>> 12 NORTH DAKOTA
>> 14 VERMONT
>> 15 COLORADO
>> 15 MISSOURI
>> 17 OKLAHOMA
>> 17 WASHINGTON
>> 19 NEW MEXICO
>> 20 NORTH CAROLINA
>> 21 VIRGINIA
>> 22 INDIANA
>> 22 MICHIGAN
>> 24 ARKANSAS
>> 24 TEXAS
>> 26 ALABAMA
>> 26 NEVADA
>> 28 WEST VIRGINIA
>> 29 ILLINOIS
>> 30 ARIZONA
>> 31 MAINE
>> 32 DELAWARE
>> 33 NEW HAMPSHIRE
>> 34 OHIO
>> 35 KENTUCKY
>> 36 PENNSYLVANIA
>> 37 LOUISIANA
>> 38 TENNESSEE
>> 38 MISSISSIPPI
>> 40 SOUTH CAROLINA
>> 40 MARYLAND
>> 42 CONNECTICUT
>> 43 FLORIDA
>> 44 DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
>> 45 MASSACHUSETTS
>> 46 RHODE ISLAND
>> 47 GEORGIA
>> 48 CALIFORNIA
>> 49 HAWAII
>> 50 NEW JERSEY
>> 51 NEW YORK
>>
>>
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Tests like that don't tell near as much as they pretend to. A couple of
those questions are just stupid in my opinion and the one that I got wrong,
I would argue is simply a bad question. Check out #18 ;

18. When you approach a traffic signal displaying a steady yellow light, you
must:

A. Go through the intersection before it turns red
B. Stop if it is safe to do so
C. Be prepared to stop
D. Slow down

First off, this should never happen unless something is malfunctioning. To
me that makes it a ridiculous question. You can see my answer here. They say
Stop if it is safe to do so. To me that's ignorant, other drivers see
yellow, they are thinking caution, be prepared to stop, they might even be
staring at the stupid stuck yellow light and guess who's arse they are going
to crash into sitting stopped in the road! Idiotic really.

I remember watching some safety movie bs once where they declared that "a
safe driver goes 5 years w/o ever squealing a tire". The movie was made in
the 50's and DPS was still quoting it on their defensive driving test! I
just laughed! In Houston, if you drive a serious commute (and you don't have
abs) you might 'squeal a tire once a month! That's if you're super careful
and defensive. If you're inpatient and pushy, you'll probably have to pull
off a panic stop once a week!

Chris
99BBB
"XS11E" > wrote in message
. ..
> "Frank Berger" > wrote:
>
>> I imagine I'm not the only one to notice the tendency for low
>> density states to rank near the top and high density states near
>> the bottom. You don't suppose this is because it's harder to hit
>> something when there's nothing around to hit, do you?
>
> No, because the rankings are based entirely on the test results, not
> any accident or citation figures.
>
>> And therefore the results have little, if anything, to do with the
>> quality of drivers.
>
> I suspect that people who don't know the traffic laws (and don't do
> well on the test) would possibly be the worst drivers.
>
>
>
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On 2009-05-23, Chris D'Agnolo > wrote:

> Tests like that don't tell near as much as they pretend to. A
> couple of those questions are just stupid in my opinion and
> the one that I got wrong, I would argue is simply a bad
> question. Check out #18 ;
>
> 18. When you approach a traffic signal displaying a steady
> yellow light, you must:
>
> A. Go through the intersection before it turns red
> B. Stop if it is safe to do so
> C. Be prepared to stop
> D. Slow down
>
> First off, this should never happen unless something is
> malfunctioning.

Where I live, traffic signals display a steady yellow for a
while before switching to red. Last time I was in Texas, it
was the same there.

> To me that makes it a ridiculous question. You can see my
> answer here. They say Stop if it is safe to do so.

Because the light is about to switch to red, and it's illegal
to enter the intersection when the light is red.

> To me that's ignorant, other drivers see yellow, they are
> thinking caution, be prepared to stop,

Around here, they're thinking "if I hit the gas now, I can
probably make it through before the red has been on for more
than 2 seconds". In most (but not all) areas of the US, there
is a 1-second overlap after one direction turns red and the
cross-traffic signal turns green. Add on a another second for
the cross traffic to react and start moving, and some people
around here seem to figure that it's still kosher to fly
through the intersection during the first couple seconds of a
red.

> they might even be staring at the stupid stuck yellow light
> and guess who's arse they are going to crash into sitting
> stopped in the road! Idiotic really.

I think you're misinterpretted "steady" yellow. They mean a
normal red/yellow/green traffic signal that's showing yellow --
as opposed to a "permanent" flashing yellow light like you find
in some rural intersections.

As in all tests, the object is not to answer the question that
was asked, but rather to ask the question that was intended.

--
Grant

"Chris D'Agnolo" > wrote:

> Tests like that don't tell near as much as they pretend to. A
> couple of those questions are just stupid in my opinion and the
> one that I got wrong, I would argue is simply a bad question.
> Check out #18 ;
>
> 18. When you approach a traffic signal displaying a steady yellow
> light, you must:
>
> A. Go through the intersection before it turns red
> B. Stop if it is safe to do so
> C. Be prepared to stop
> D. Slow down

They don't give the correct answer which is

E. FLOOR IT, THERE'S A RED COMING!

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