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  #21  
Old July 17th 05, 08:11 PM
223rem
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fbloogyudsr wrote:

> And your view of the beating applied to the other juvie?


Well deserved!
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Old July 17th 05, 08:54 PM
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"223rem" > wrote in message
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> fbloogyudsr wrote:
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>> And your view of the beating applied to the other juvie?

>
> Well deserved!


Shooting fireworks at cars is a dangerous act.

The two boys used thier own judgment, and they
chose to act in a way that led to one of them being
struck by a car, while the other escaped with only
a beating. I think the occupants of the car that got
out and administered the beating were merely agents
of karma, and should be let go.

Bernard


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Old July 18th 05, 02:54 AM
Harry K
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Bernard Farquart wrote:
> "223rem" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > fbloogyudsr wrote:
> >
> >> And your view of the beating applied to the other juvie?

> >
> > Well deserved!

>
> Shooting fireworks at cars is a dangerous act.
>
> The two boys used thier own judgment, and they
> chose to act in a way that led to one of them being
> struck by a car, while the other escaped with only
> a beating. I think the occupants of the car that got
> out and administered the beating were merely agents
> of karma, and should be let go.
>
> Bernard


Same here but legally I can see the beater being charged with assault.
I can't see the chaser being charged with manslaughter. Perhaps
threatening bodily harm but...

As for the surviving kid. Charge with attempted murder.

Harry K

  #24  
Old July 18th 05, 04:18 AM
Scott en Aztlán
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On 17 Jul 2005 18:54:11 -0700, "Harry K" >
wrote:

>Same here but legally I can see the beater being charged with assault.
>I can't see the chaser being charged with manslaughter. Perhaps
>threatening bodily harm but...
>
>As for the surviving kid. Charge with attempted murder.


Better watch out - somebody's going to call you a troll for saying
that...

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Old July 19th 05, 12:23 AM
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"Bernard Farquart" > wrote in
:

>
> "223rem" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> fbloogyudsr wrote:
>>
>>> And your view of the beating applied to the other juvie?

>>
>> Well deserved!

>
> Shooting fireworks at cars is a dangerous act.
>
> The two boys used thier own judgment, and they
> chose to act in a way that led to one of them being
> struck by a car, while the other escaped with only
> a beating. I think the occupants of the car that got
> out and administered the beating were merely agents
> of karma, and should be let go.
>
> Bernard
>
>
>


That would be vigilantism.

Doug
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Old July 19th 05, 01:19 AM
fbloogyudsr
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"DYM" > wrote
> "Bernard Farquart" > wrote
>> "223rem" > wrote in message
>>> fbloogyudsr wrote:
>>>
>>>> And your view of the beating applied to the other juvie?
>>>
>>> Well deserved!

>>
>> Shooting fireworks at cars is a dangerous act.
>>
>> The two boys used thier own judgment, and they
>> chose to act in a way that led to one of them being
>> struck by a car, while the other escaped with only
>> a beating. I think the occupants of the car that got
>> out and administered the beating were merely agents
>> of karma, and should be let go.
>>
>> Bernard
>>

> That would be vigilantism.
>
> Doug


See - I told you guys (starting with Scott) that it was a trollish posting!

Floyd
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Old July 19th 05, 05:08 AM
Bernard Farquart
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"DYM" > wrote in message
.. .
> "Bernard Farquart" > wrote in
> :
>
>>
>> "223rem" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>>> fbloogyudsr wrote:
>>>
>>>> And your view of the beating applied to the other juvie?
>>>
>>> Well deserved!

>>
>> Shooting fireworks at cars is a dangerous act.
>>
>> The two boys used thier own judgment, and they
>> chose to act in a way that led to one of them being
>> struck by a car, while the other escaped with only
>> a beating. I think the occupants of the car that got
>> out and administered the beating were merely agents
>> of karma, and should be let go.
>>
>> Bernard
>>
>>
>>

>
> That would be vigilantism.
>
> Doug

No, the driver of the car was just minding his own
business when someone shot explosives at him, he was not
going aroung looking for something to take care of, it
was a reaction to an extreme provocation. I sure would hope he
will get off of the improper manslauhter charge, and I think no one
but the jackass kids parents will be upset by it.

Bernard


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Old July 19th 05, 08:44 PM
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"fbloogyudsr" > wrote
> "Skip Elliott Bowman" > wrote
>> Wash. Boy Dies Fleeing From Angry Driver ...

>
> A more complete article.
>
> http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/l...-4585288c.html


Youse guys might be interested in knowing that the police have released
(temporarily) the Angry Driver and his passenger while they figure out
what they can charge them with...

http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/l...-4590658c.html

Floyd
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Old July 20th 05, 12:49 AM
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"Bernard Farquart" > wrote in
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>
> "DYM" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> "Bernard Farquart" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>>
>>> "223rem" > wrote in message
>>> . ..
>>>> fbloogyudsr wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And your view of the beating applied to the other juvie?
>>>>
>>>> Well deserved!
>>>
>>> Shooting fireworks at cars is a dangerous act.
>>>
>>> The two boys used thier own judgment, and they
>>> chose to act in a way that led to one of them being
>>> struck by a car, while the other escaped with only
>>> a beating. I think the occupants of the car that got
>>> out and administered the beating were merely agents
>>> of karma, and should be let go.
>>>
>>> Bernard
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>> That would be vigilantism.
>>
>> Doug

> No, the driver of the car was just minding his own
> business when someone shot explosives at him, he was not
> going aroung looking for something to take care of, it
> was a reaction to an extreme provocation. I sure would hope he
> will get off of the improper manslauhter charge, and I think no one
> but the jackass kids parents will be upset by it.
>
> Bernard
>
>
>


Bernard,

First go look up the definition of vigilante.

Yes, the kids acted in a criminal manner and should be punished for that.
When the occupants beat and chased the kids they crossed the line and
commited another crime. When you seek justice outside of the law you are
a vigilante. That is the very definition of the word.

The occupants of the car are (at least as far as the facts reported here)
guilty of assult. They can plead to extenuating circumstances, such as
anger. The kids can only plead stuipity and that dones't get you
anywhere.

All parties are in the wrong in this one.

Doug
  #30  
Old July 20th 05, 03:32 AM
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In article >, DYM wrote:

> First go look up the definition of vigilante.
>
> Yes, the kids acted in a criminal manner and should be punished for that.
> When the occupants beat and chased the kids they crossed the line and
> commited another crime. When you seek justice outside of the law you are
> a vigilante. That is the very definition of the word.
>
> The occupants of the car are (at least as far as the facts reported here)
> guilty of assult. They can plead to extenuating circumstances, such as
> anger. The kids can only plead stuipity and that dones't get you
> anywhere.
>
> All parties are in the wrong in this one.


To me it seems like self defense. Someone launches bottle rockets at
another person, should not be surprised if that person fights back.

Your post indicates to me that you believe that nobody should fight back
but always flee. The same mentality that has laws in the UK that have
sent homeowners to prison for defending themselves and their property
against criminals who illegally entered the home.

Your theory of always fleeing, running away, never fighting back only
puts the power in the hands of those who do wrong. Because they can do
wrong without fear. The cops are never everywhere. And they'll get there
later, after the fact.

Nothing keeps crime lower than the fear the victim will hurt the
criminal.


 




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