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  #11  
Old October 24th 04, 04:37 PM
mic canic
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actually the module may work and i say that because a friend in cali. has a
300m with a 3.5 and i put in a salvage yard pcm from a year earlier car with a
3.2 and used a drb to reset the module and even progamed a new skim into and
it's been running fine since
he even passed emissions there
i believe there is a car club called the 12th element who hop up neon's and
that some of the things they have been doing if i remember correctly
maxpower wrote:

> If that was not offered back then ,,,, then there was no module back then
> either, you can interchange the modules from apllication to application such
> as pt cruiser to stratus, the harness are different, the same with needeing
> to know if it is an automatic trans or manual, assuming you are in an area
> that requires a state emmission program.....u may have serious problems
> "Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message
> n.umich.edu...
> > On Sat, 23 Oct 2004, Ed Dreistadt wrote:
> >
> > > I have a '95 Stratus with 186,000 miles and a very tired 2.0L coupled to
> > > a 5-speed. Anyone know how much of a hassel it would be to put a 2.4L in
> > > its place while keeping the 5-speed? This combo wasn't offered when I
> > > bought the car back in '95, but sure would be a lot more fun than the
> > > 2.0. I'm debating between making a project car or donating it to the
> > > Kidney Foundation.

> >
> > ED-
> >
> > Bolt pattern's the same, as are the engine mounts, etc. The sticking point
> > would be the engine control module. The 2.0 module wouldn't happily run a
> > 2.4, but a module for a 2.4 with automatic transmission would be less than
> > happy running in front of a manual. If I had to pick, I'd use a 2.4/auto
> > module and deal symptomatically with whatever effects might show up.
> >
> > Of course, there are bound to be 2.4 litre engines and control modules
> > available out of crashed PT Cruisers, by now... www.car-part.com is your
> > friend!
> >
> > -DS


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  #12  
Old October 24th 04, 06:35 PM
maxpower
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the word "MAY WORK" thats a big may to swap out an engine to find out it
wont work or wont pass emissions, keep in mind that if the engine doesnt
match the emissions label under the hood it will never pass anyhow...... if
checked by an emissions inspector, not to mention anything about tampering
also
"mic canic" > wrote in message
...
> actually the module may work and i say that because a friend in cali. has

a
> 300m with a 3.5 and i put in a salvage yard pcm from a year earlier car

with a
> 3.2 and used a drb to reset the module and even progamed a new skim into

and
> it's been running fine since
> he even passed emissions there
> i believe there is a car club called the 12th element who hop up neon's

and
> that some of the things they have been doing if i remember correctly
> maxpower wrote:
>
> > If that was not offered back then ,,,, then there was no module back

then
> > either, you can interchange the modules from apllication to application

such
> > as pt cruiser to stratus, the harness are different, the same with

needeing
> > to know if it is an automatic trans or manual, assuming you are in an

area
> > that requires a state emmission program.....u may have serious problems
> > "Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message
> > n.umich.edu...
> > > On Sat, 23 Oct 2004, Ed Dreistadt wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have a '95 Stratus with 186,000 miles and a very tired 2.0L

coupled to
> > > > a 5-speed. Anyone know how much of a hassel it would be to put a

2.4L in
> > > > its place while keeping the 5-speed? This combo wasn't offered when

I
> > > > bought the car back in '95, but sure would be a lot more fun than

the
> > > > 2.0. I'm debating between making a project car or donating it to the
> > > > Kidney Foundation.
> > >
> > > ED-
> > >
> > > Bolt pattern's the same, as are the engine mounts, etc. The sticking

point
> > > would be the engine control module. The 2.0 module wouldn't happily

run a
> > > 2.4, but a module for a 2.4 with automatic transmission would be less

than
> > > happy running in front of a manual. If I had to pick, I'd use a

2.4/auto
> > > module and deal symptomatically with whatever effects might show up.
> > >
> > > Of course, there are bound to be 2.4 litre engines and control modules
> > > available out of crashed PT Cruisers, by now... www.car-part.com is

your
> > > friend!
> > >
> > > -DS

>



  #13  
Old October 24th 04, 06:35 PM
maxpower
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the word "MAY WORK" thats a big may to swap out an engine to find out it
wont work or wont pass emissions, keep in mind that if the engine doesnt
match the emissions label under the hood it will never pass anyhow...... if
checked by an emissions inspector, not to mention anything about tampering
also
"mic canic" > wrote in message
...
> actually the module may work and i say that because a friend in cali. has

a
> 300m with a 3.5 and i put in a salvage yard pcm from a year earlier car

with a
> 3.2 and used a drb to reset the module and even progamed a new skim into

and
> it's been running fine since
> he even passed emissions there
> i believe there is a car club called the 12th element who hop up neon's

and
> that some of the things they have been doing if i remember correctly
> maxpower wrote:
>
> > If that was not offered back then ,,,, then there was no module back

then
> > either, you can interchange the modules from apllication to application

such
> > as pt cruiser to stratus, the harness are different, the same with

needeing
> > to know if it is an automatic trans or manual, assuming you are in an

area
> > that requires a state emmission program.....u may have serious problems
> > "Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message
> > n.umich.edu...
> > > On Sat, 23 Oct 2004, Ed Dreistadt wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have a '95 Stratus with 186,000 miles and a very tired 2.0L

coupled to
> > > > a 5-speed. Anyone know how much of a hassel it would be to put a

2.4L in
> > > > its place while keeping the 5-speed? This combo wasn't offered when

I
> > > > bought the car back in '95, but sure would be a lot more fun than

the
> > > > 2.0. I'm debating between making a project car or donating it to the
> > > > Kidney Foundation.
> > >
> > > ED-
> > >
> > > Bolt pattern's the same, as are the engine mounts, etc. The sticking

point
> > > would be the engine control module. The 2.0 module wouldn't happily

run a
> > > 2.4, but a module for a 2.4 with automatic transmission would be less

than
> > > happy running in front of a manual. If I had to pick, I'd use a

2.4/auto
> > > module and deal symptomatically with whatever effects might show up.
> > >
> > > Of course, there are bound to be 2.4 litre engines and control modules
> > > available out of crashed PT Cruisers, by now... www.car-part.com is

your
> > > friend!
> > >
> > > -DS

>



  #14  
Old October 26th 04, 12:32 PM
Ed Dreistadt
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Dan:

I have a 2.2 turbo '85 LeBaron and the folks who mess with those
motors have put together some amazing things. Mine has an Omni GLHS
engine control module with an overlay harness that lets the car run
the intake system from a '90 2.5.

Figured there might be someone out there who has figured out how to
hot rod a Stratus.

I wonder if the head from the Stratus would swap on to a 2.4, allowing
me to keep all the current controls?

Probably way too much work, but fun to think about.

Also, shoot me an email when you get a chance. I still have your
Slant 6 clock.

-Ed




On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 19:39:13 -0400, "Daniel J. Stern"
> wrote:

>On Sat, 23 Oct 2004, Ed Dreistadt wrote:
>
>> I have a '95 Stratus with 186,000 miles and a very tired 2.0L coupled to
>> a 5-speed. Anyone know how much of a hassel it would be to put a 2.4L in
>> its place while keeping the 5-speed? This combo wasn't offered when I
>> bought the car back in '95, but sure would be a lot more fun than the
>> 2.0. I'm debating between making a project car or donating it to the
>> Kidney Foundation.

>
>ED-
>
>Bolt pattern's the same, as are the engine mounts, etc. The sticking point
>would be the engine control module. The 2.0 module wouldn't happily run a
>2.4, but a module for a 2.4 with automatic transmission would be less than
>happy running in front of a manual. If I had to pick, I'd use a 2.4/auto
>module and deal symptomatically with whatever effects might show up.
>
>Of course, there are bound to be 2.4 litre engines and control modules
>available out of crashed PT Cruisers, by now... www.car-part.com is your
>friend!
>
>-DS


  #15  
Old October 26th 04, 12:32 PM
Ed Dreistadt
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Dan:

I have a 2.2 turbo '85 LeBaron and the folks who mess with those
motors have put together some amazing things. Mine has an Omni GLHS
engine control module with an overlay harness that lets the car run
the intake system from a '90 2.5.

Figured there might be someone out there who has figured out how to
hot rod a Stratus.

I wonder if the head from the Stratus would swap on to a 2.4, allowing
me to keep all the current controls?

Probably way too much work, but fun to think about.

Also, shoot me an email when you get a chance. I still have your
Slant 6 clock.

-Ed




On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 19:39:13 -0400, "Daniel J. Stern"
> wrote:

>On Sat, 23 Oct 2004, Ed Dreistadt wrote:
>
>> I have a '95 Stratus with 186,000 miles and a very tired 2.0L coupled to
>> a 5-speed. Anyone know how much of a hassel it would be to put a 2.4L in
>> its place while keeping the 5-speed? This combo wasn't offered when I
>> bought the car back in '95, but sure would be a lot more fun than the
>> 2.0. I'm debating between making a project car or donating it to the
>> Kidney Foundation.

>
>ED-
>
>Bolt pattern's the same, as are the engine mounts, etc. The sticking point
>would be the engine control module. The 2.0 module wouldn't happily run a
>2.4, but a module for a 2.4 with automatic transmission would be less than
>happy running in front of a manual. If I had to pick, I'd use a 2.4/auto
>module and deal symptomatically with whatever effects might show up.
>
>Of course, there are bound to be 2.4 litre engines and control modules
>available out of crashed PT Cruisers, by now... www.car-part.com is your
>friend!
>
>-DS


  #16  
Old October 26th 04, 04:37 PM
Daniel J. Stern
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Ed Dreistadt wrote:

> I wonder if the head from the Stratus would swap on to a 2.4, allowing
> me to keep all the current controls?


No, the problem with running the 2.0 computer is that its spark and fuel
curves are set up for the 2.0, not the 2.4. It would probably run, just
probably somewhere between "not optimally" and "not very well".

DS
  #17  
Old October 26th 04, 04:37 PM
Daniel J. Stern
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Ed Dreistadt wrote:

> I wonder if the head from the Stratus would swap on to a 2.4, allowing
> me to keep all the current controls?


No, the problem with running the 2.0 computer is that its spark and fuel
curves are set up for the 2.0, not the 2.4. It would probably run, just
probably somewhere between "not optimally" and "not very well".

DS
  #18  
Old October 26th 04, 09:13 PM
Daniel J. Stern
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Ed Dreistadt wrote:

> Dan:


> shoot me an email when you get a chance. I still have your Slant 6
> clock.


Tried, but e-mail bounces "no such user" even when I delete the "NOSPAM".
Go hit danielsternlighting.com and send me mail from there?

DS
  #19  
Old October 26th 04, 09:13 PM
Daniel J. Stern
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Ed Dreistadt wrote:

> Dan:


> shoot me an email when you get a chance. I still have your Slant 6
> clock.


Tried, but e-mail bounces "no such user" even when I delete the "NOSPAM".
Go hit danielsternlighting.com and send me mail from there?

DS
 




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