What exactly is "left lane blocking"?

"Daniel W. Rouse Jr." > wrote in
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> "Jim Yanik" .> wrote in message
> .. .
>> "Daniel W. Rouse Jr." > wrote in
>> :
>>
>> > "Scott en Aztlán" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:56:16 GMT, Arif Khokar
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> > [snip...]
>> >
>> >> As simple as this is to do, there are people out there who flat
>> >> out refuse to touch their gas pedal. They set their cruise control
>> >> and that's it. I don't understand what the objection is, but it's
>> >> obvious that it exists.
>> >>
>> > Valid reasons are fuel economy (especially with rising gas prices)
>> > and, of course, compliance with speed laws.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Including SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT.
>>
> And Jim, where I drive, the only places I see actual "Slower Traffic
> Keep Right" signs are on steep grades (e.g., 6% grade or more) with an
> extra slow lane that opens up until the steep grade levels off. That
> includes single lane roads (in each direction, divided by a
> double-yellow line or median) that open up to two lanes, as well as
> four lane interstates (in each direction) that open up to five lanes,
> for those steep grade portions of road.
>
>
>

So you believe those are the only places the rule(law?) is valid?

On I-4 in the central Florida region,those signs are common,on ordinary
interstate hwys,not just at steep grades.(are there any in FL?)

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

"Harry K" > wrote in
oups.com:

>
> Jim Yanik wrote:
>> "Harry K" > wrote in
>> oups.com:
>>
>> >
>> > Jim Yanik wrote:
>> >> "Harry K" > wrote in
>> >> oups.com:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> ><snip a whole bunch>
>> >> > --
>> >> >> >> Jim Yanik
>> >> >> >> jyanik
>> >> >> >> at
>> >> >> >> kua.net
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > And there is another typical MMFFY response. You want to
> force
>> > me
>> >> > to
>> >> >> > alter my driving style.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yes.
>> >> >> Because it is wrong in this case.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > That makes you just as much as a MFFY as I am,
>> >> >> > actually more so as I have the legal right of way.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Actually,no you don't,as you are violating the slower traffic
> keep
>> >> > right
>> >> >> rule. Being first (me first) does not negate that rule.
>> >> >
>> >> > Again, while I am passing I am not the slower traffic.
>> >>
>> >> If another car is approaching,YES YOU ARE.
>> >>
>> >> > STKR does not
>> >> > apply while I am passing
>> >>
>> >> SAYS WHO? It applies ALL the time.
>> >> Let's see a cite on that.
>> >>
>> >> > and you can run that by any LE officer,
>> >> > traffic safety guy, or driving instructor you like with the
>> > possible
>> >> > exception of race conditions.
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > I admit that I am a
>> >> >> > MFFY in the rare exceptions
>> >> >>
>> >> >> evidently not so rare.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > that I have quoted but I'll bet you can't
>> >> >> > look in the mirror and admit you are one too.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Harry K
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Harry K
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Becuase I am not the one doing the "Me First,so you have to
>> >> > brake(change
>> >> >> YOUR driving)" shtick.
>> >> >> You are.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Jim Yanik
>> >> >> jyanik
>> >> >> at
>> >> >> kua.net
>> >> >
>> >> > I knew you couldn't do it. I would like you to explain to me
> (and
>> > the
>> >> > others) just -how- is my causing you to slow down any more of a
>> > MFFY
>> >> > than you causing me to speed up? If it is an imposition on you
> to
>> > slow
>> >> > down, it is an imposition on me to speed up. I asked that
> before,
>> > got
>> >> > no answer and really expect nothing but more hand waving this
> time.
>> >> >
>> >> > Harry K
>> >> >
>> >> > Harry K
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Once again;
>> >> Becuase I am not the one doing the "Me First,so you have to
>> > brake(change
>> >> YOUR driving)" shtick.
>> >> You are.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jim Yanik
>> >> jyanik
>> >> at
>> >> kua.net
>> >
>> > SOS, same question, same dodge and same no answer to the question.
>> > As to the STKR I told you to run it by various authorities if you
>> > didn't believe me...you didn't.
>> >
>> > Harry K
>> >
>> >
>>
>> It's your assertion,you provide the cite.
>> Don't expect me to do your homework for you.
>>
>> --
>> Jim Yanik
>> jyanik
>> at
>> kua.net
>
> Huh?? YOU claim STKR applies while I am pssing. Up up to YOU to
> provide the cite if you need one.
>
> Harry K
>
>

copied from above text;

HK;
STKR does not
apply while I am passing
> >>
JY;
SAYS WHO? It applies ALL the time.
Let's see a cite on that.

So,YOU made the assertion that it does not apply while you are passing,so
YOU need to provide a cite to support it.

sloth passing is just another form of LLBing.




--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Scott en Aztlán > wrote in
:

> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:56:16 GMT, Arif Khokar >
> wrote:
>>
>>My answer is that you should complete the pass before the other car
>>catches up to you. The easiest way to do that without having to
wait
>>for a long time is to either match or exceed the speed of the
vehicle
>>behind you. Then, after completing your pass, slow down to your
>>previous cruising speed.
>
> As simple as this is to do, there are people out there who flat out
> refuse to touch their gas pedal. They set their cruise control and
> that's it. I don't understand what the objection is, but it's
obvious
> that it exists.
>

Maybe they don't want to exceed the speed limit?

DYM

<more snippo>

> > Huh?? YOU claim STKR applies while I am pssing. Up up to YOU to
> > provide the cite if you need one.
> >
> > Harry K
> >
> >
>
> copied from above text;
>
> HK;
> STKR does not
> apply while I am passing
> > >>
> JY;
> SAYS WHO? It applies ALL the time.
> Let's see a cite on that.
>
> So,YOU made the assertion that it does not apply while you are
passing,so
> YOU need to provide a cite to support it.
>
> sloth passing is just another form of LLBing.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net

Jim, you are getting too desperate to continue this. Nice twist, you
insist STKR applies. Using your logic, persons in the right lane can
never pass and Since when is passing with a 10mph differential 'sloth
passing'?

When you answer the question that I have posed at least twice and
prodded you several more times. I will continue this.

Harry K

"Jim Yanik" .> wrote in message
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> "Daniel W. Rouse Jr." > wrote in
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> > "Jim Yanik" .> wrote in message
> > .. .
> >> "Daniel W. Rouse Jr." > wrote in
> >> :
> >>
> >> > "Scott en Aztlán" > wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> >> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:56:16 GMT, Arif Khokar
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> > [snip...]
> >> >
> >> >> As simple as this is to do, there are people out there who flat
> >> >> out refuse to touch their gas pedal. They set their cruise control
> >> >> and that's it. I don't understand what the objection is, but it's
> >> >> obvious that it exists.
> >> >>
> >> > Valid reasons are fuel economy (especially with rising gas prices)
> >> > and, of course, compliance with speed laws.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Including SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT.
> >>
> > And Jim, where I drive, the only places I see actual "Slower Traffic
> > Keep Right" signs are on steep grades (e.g., 6% grade or more) with an
> > extra slow lane that opens up until the steep grade levels off. That
> > includes single lane roads (in each direction, divided by a
> > double-yellow line or median) that open up to two lanes, as well as
> > four lane interstates (in each direction) that open up to five lanes,
> > for those steep grade portions of road.
> >
> >
> >
>
> So you believe those are the only places the rule(law?) is valid?
>
> On I-4 in the central Florida region,those signs are common,on ordinary
> interstate hwys,not just at steep grades.(are there any in FL?)
>
Well, in California, there is the Basic Speed Law. Speed at your own risk,
and from my own driving observations, it's really stupid to speed over
80mph.

Of course, anyone who isn't passing traffic and also driving below the speed
limit in the leftmost lane is unequivocally an LLB.

"Daniel W. Rouse Jr." > wrote in message
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> "Jim Yanik" .> wrote in message
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>> > "Jim Yanik" .> wrote in message
>> > .. .
>> >> "Daniel W. Rouse Jr." > wrote in
>> >> :
>> >>
>> >> > "Scott en Aztlán" > wrote in message
>> >> > ...
>> >> >> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:56:16 GMT, Arif Khokar
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> > [snip...]
>> >> >
>> >> >> As simple as this is to do, there are people out there who flat
>> >> >> out refuse to touch their gas pedal. They set their cruise control
>> >> >> and that's it. I don't understand what the objection is, but it's
>> >> >> obvious that it exists.
>> >> >>
>> >> > Valid reasons are fuel economy (especially with rising gas prices)
>> >> > and, of course, compliance with speed laws.
>> >> >
>> >> Including SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT.
>> >>
>> > And Jim, where I drive, the only places I see actual "Slower Traffic
>> > Keep Right" signs are on steep grades (e.g., 6% grade or more) with an
>> > extra slow lane that opens up until the steep grade levels off. That
>> > includes single lane roads (in each direction, divided by a
>> > double-yellow line or median) that open up to two lanes, as well as
>> > four lane interstates (in each direction) that open up to five lanes,
>> > for those steep grade portions of road.
>> >

>> So you believe those are the only places the rule(law?) is valid?
>>
>> On I-4 in the central Florida region,those signs are common,on ordinary
>> interstate hwys,not just at steep grades.(are there any in FL?)
>>
> Well, in California, there is the Basic Speed Law. Speed at your own risk,
> and from my own driving observations, it's really stupid to speed over
> 80mph.
>
> Of course, anyone who isn't passing traffic and also driving below the
> speed
> limit in the leftmost lane is unequivocally an LLB.

These STKR and KRETP signs are all up and down I-5; at least to the
California border. Every ten miles or so, including flat wide terrain. In
the fine print on the sign, though, it says "If you're an LLB, don't worry.
This law doesn't apply to you personally."

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> "Jim Yanik" .> wrote in message
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>> > "Jim Yanik" .> wrote in message
>> > .. .
>> >> "Daniel W. Rouse Jr." > wrote in
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>> >>
>> >> > "Scott en Aztlán" > wrote in message
>> >> > ...
>> >> >> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:56:16 GMT, Arif Khokar
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> > [snip...]
>> >> >
>> >> >> As simple as this is to do, there are people out there who flat
>> >> >> out refuse to touch their gas pedal. They set their cruise
>> >> >> control and that's it. I don't understand what the objection
>> >> >> is, but it's obvious that it exists.
>> >> >>
>> >> > Valid reasons are fuel economy (especially with rising gas
>> >> > prices) and, of course, compliance with speed laws.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Including SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT.
>> >>
>> > And Jim, where I drive, the only places I see actual "Slower
>> > Traffic Keep Right" signs are on steep grades (e.g., 6% grade or
>> > more) with an extra slow lane that opens up until the steep grade
>> > levels off. That includes single lane roads (in each direction,
>> > divided by a double-yellow line or median) that open up to two
>> > lanes, as well as four lane interstates (in each direction) that
>> > open up to five lanes, for those steep grade portions of road.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> So you believe those are the only places the rule(law?) is valid?
>>
>> On I-4 in the central Florida region,those signs are common,on
>> ordinary interstate hwys,not just at steep grades.(are there any in
>> FL?)
>>
> Well, in California, there is the Basic Speed Law. Speed at your own
> risk, and from my own driving observations, it's really stupid to
> speed over 80mph.
>
> Of course, anyone who isn't passing traffic and also driving below the
> speed limit in the leftmost lane is unequivocally an LLB.
>
>
>
>

Even if they are driving the speed limit,they can be LLB's.
Driving the speed limit does not entitle one to block the passing lane.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

"Harry K" > wrote in
ups.com:

>
><more snippo>
>
>> > Huh?? YOU claim STKR applies while I am pssing. Up up to YOU to
>> > provide the cite if you need one.
>> >
>> > Harry K
>> >
>> >
>>
>> copied from above text;
>>
>> HK;
>> STKR does not
>> apply while I am passing
>> > >>
>> JY;
>> SAYS WHO? It applies ALL the time.
>> Let's see a cite on that.
>>
>> So,YOU made the assertion that it does not apply while you are
> passing,so
>> YOU need to provide a cite to support it.
>>
>> sloth passing is just another form of LLBing.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jim Yanik
>> jyanik
>> at
>> kua.net
>
> Jim, you are getting too desperate to continue this. Nice twist, you
> insist STKR applies. Using your logic, persons in the right lane can
> never

"never"???

> pass and Since when is passing with a 10mph differential 'sloth
> passing'?

At first you were saying FIVE mph.Now you've changed it to 10 mph.
>
> When you answer the question that I have posed at least twice and
> prodded you several more times. I will continue this.
>
> Harry K
>
>

You still need to provide that cite to support your own statement;
"STKR does not apply while I am passing".

You can't,because it is NOT TRUE.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik wrote:
> "Harry K" > wrote in
> ups.com:
>
> >
> ><more snippo>
> >
> >> > Huh?? YOU claim STKR applies while I am pssing. Up up to YOU to
> >> > provide the cite if you need one.
> >> >
> >> > Harry K
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> copied from above text;
> >>
> >> HK;
> >> STKR does not
> >> apply while I am passing
> >> > >>
> >> JY;
> >> SAYS WHO? It applies ALL the time.
> >> Let's see a cite on that.
> >>
> >> So,YOU made the assertion that it does not apply while you are
> > passing,so
> >> YOU need to provide a cite to support it.
> >>
> >> sloth passing is just another form of LLBing.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jim Yanik
> >> jyanik
> >> at
> >> kua.net
> >
> > Jim, you are getting too desperate to continue this. Nice twist,
you
> > insist STKR applies. Using your logic, persons in the right lane
can
> > never
>
> "never"???
>
> > pass and Since when is passing with a 10mph differential 'sloth
> > passing'?
>
> At first you were saying FIVE mph.Now you've changed it to 10 mph.

You want to go back and show where I ever said 5mph??

Answer the question

Harry K

Jim Yanik wrote:
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> >>
> >> > "Jim Yanik" .> wrote in message
> >> > .. .
> >> >> "Daniel W. Rouse Jr." > wrote in
> >> >> :
> >> >>
> >> >> > "Scott en Aztl=E1n" > wrote in
message
> >> >> > ...
> >> >> >> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:56:16 GMT, Arif Khokar
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > [snip...]
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> As simple as this is to do, there are people out there who
flat
> >> >> >> out refuse to touch their gas pedal. They set their cruise
> >> >> >> control and that's it. I don't understand what the objection
> >> >> >> is, but it's obvious that it exists.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > Valid reasons are fuel economy (especially with rising gas
> >> >> > prices) and, of course, compliance with speed laws.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Including SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT.
> >> >>
> >> > And Jim, where I drive, the only places I see actual "Slower
> >> > Traffic Keep Right" signs are on steep grades (e.g., 6% grade or
> >> > more) with an extra slow lane that opens up until the steep
grade
> >> > levels off. That includes single lane roads (in each direction,
> >> > divided by a double-yellow line or median) that open up to two
> >> > lanes, as well as four lane interstates (in each direction) that
> >> > open up to five lanes, for those steep grade portions of road.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> So you believe those are the only places the rule(law?) is valid?
> >>
> >> On I-4 in the central Florida region,those signs are common,on
> >> ordinary interstate hwys,not just at steep grades.(are there any
in
> >> FL?)
> >>
> > Well, in California, there is the Basic Speed Law. Speed at your
own
> > risk, and from my own driving observations, it's really stupid to
> > speed over 80mph.
> >
> > Of course, anyone who isn't passing traffic and also driving below
the
> > speed limit in the leftmost lane is unequivocally an LLB.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Even if they are driving the speed limit,they can be LLB's.
> Driving the speed limit does not entitle one to block the passing
lane.
>=20
> --=20
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net

Correct!

Harry K