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> I have just tried to swap the wheels front-to-back to rotate the tyres on
my > 52 plate 156 2.0JTS, but I can't get the wheels off!! > > The wheels look normal - 5 nuts (1 locking). I can't see anything special > on the wheels and the handbook doesn't give any special instructions. Its > not like I can't change a wheel, but this has me stumped!! In attempt to > sound slightly less silly - yes I did jack the car up and yes I did remove > the wheel nuts! Corrosion has occurred between your alloy wheel and the hub, locking one to the other; this is very common and doesn't damage either but is inconvenient when you want to change a wheel. If you gently let the car down off the jack (without replacing the wheel nuts) you may successfully part the wheel and hub, otherwise, buy a rubber mallet from a DIY store and give it a whack! To prevent this from happening again, coat the inner surface of the wheel (where it touches the hub) with copper grease (available from car accessory shops); use it sparingly and don't get any on the brake disc or pads. -- Remove Xs to reply direct |
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"Gareth Tuckwell" wrote:
> I have heard of this with steel wheels, but should this really be hapenning > to alloys after just 18 months on the road? I had to give my 156 alloys a whack to get them off after just 12000 miles > Incidentally, these factory fit firestones seem to go on forever - that's my > front set worn just over half way at 18.5k miles - they look like they might > do 25-30k. I don't hang about on corners or accellerating! Contisports here. Fronts well worn after 12000 miles so swapped (after giving the wheels a good wallop with a mallet and lump of wood) with the rears, but mine is a V6 so heavier and more power. Cheers Tony |
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Silly question - can't get the wheels off my 156 JTS!
I have just tried to swap the wheels front-to-back to rotate the tyres on my
52 plate 156 2.0JTS, but I can't get the wheels off!! There wheels look normal - 5 nuts (1 locking). I can't see anything special on the wheels and the handbook doesn't give any special instructions. Its not like I can't change a wheel, but this has me stumped!! In attempt to sound slightly less silly - yes I did jack the car up and yes I did remove the wheel nuts! I don't like to phone a garage - I would just feel silly! Help!!! |
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Also - there are no jacking point markings front or rear under the car
(normally there are little triangles or arrows) - any pointers there as the pictures in the handbook don't match the car or the jack?!? "Gareth Tuckwell" > wrote in message ... > I have just tried to swap the wheels front-to-back to rotate the tyres on my > 52 plate 156 2.0JTS, but I can't get the wheels off!! > > There wheels look normal - 5 nuts (1 locking). I can't see anything special > on the wheels and the handbook doesn't give any special instructions. Its > not like I can't change a wheel, but this has me stumped!! In attempt to > sound slightly less silly - yes I did jack the car up and yes I did remove > the wheel nuts! > > I don't like to phone a garage - I would just feel silly! > > Help!!! > > |
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Thanks for the advice - I'll give it a rattle!!
I have heard of this with steel wheels, but should this really be hapenning to alloys after just 18 months on the road? My 12 year old renault didn't do this and my Fiat Marea didn't do this after 4/5 years! Should I be complaining to my garage - the car is still under warranty and had its first and only service at the Alfa garage last Oct/Nov? Incidentally, these factory fit firestones seem to go on forever - that's my front set worn just over half way at 18.5k miles - they look like they might do 25-30k. I don't hang about on corners or accellerating! The tyres on the rear still have the little rubber bits at the side and the stripe of paint through the tread! I have used Michellin Energy tyres and they used to last about 15k on the front of my Marea, which was a lighter, less powerful car! "Steve Knight" > wrote in message ... > > I have just tried to swap the wheels front-to-back to rotate the tyres on > my > > 52 plate 156 2.0JTS, but I can't get the wheels off!! > > > > The wheels look normal - 5 nuts (1 locking). I can't see anything special > > on the wheels and the handbook doesn't give any special instructions. Its > > not like I can't change a wheel, but this has me stumped!! In attempt to > > sound slightly less silly - yes I did jack the car up and yes I did remove > > the wheel nuts! > > Corrosion has occurred between your alloy wheel and the hub, locking one to > the other; this is very common and doesn't damage either but is inconvenient > when you want to change a wheel. > > If you gently let the car down off the jack (without replacing the wheel > nuts) you may successfully part the wheel and hub, otherwise, buy a rubber > mallet from a DIY store and give it a whack! > > To prevent this from happening again, coat the inner surface of the wheel > (where it touches the hub) with copper grease (available from car accessory > shops); use it sparingly and don't get any on the brake disc or pads. > > -- > Remove Xs to reply direct > > |
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Gareth Tuckwell wrote:
> Also - there are no jacking point markings front or rear under the car > (normally there are little triangles or arrows) - any pointers there > as the pictures in the handbook don't match the car or the jack?!? > I've always found jacking points to not look very strong, so I always jack the A-arm up. It also has the benefit that you aren't jacking up the car on the suspension while the wheel stays on the floor. I'm no spanner-man so perhaps this isn't a good idea but it's worked well for me. |
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Gareth Tuckwell wrote:
> Thanks for the advice - I'll give it a rattle!! > > I have heard of this with steel wheels, but should this really be > hapenning to alloys after just 18 months on the road? > > My 12 year old renault didn't do this and my Fiat Marea didn't do this > after 4/5 years! > Luck. Seriously. -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l (Really) Sprint 1.7 Triumph Speed Triple: Black with extra black bits www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk |
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Carl Farrington wrote:
> Gareth Tuckwell wrote: >> Also - there are no jacking point markings front or rear under the car >> (normally there are little triangles or arrows) - any pointers there >> as the pictures in the handbook don't match the car or the jack?!? >> > > I've always found jacking points to not look very strong, so I always jack > the A-arm up. It also has the benefit that you aren't jacking up the car > on the suspension while the wheel stays on the floor. I'm no spanner-man > so perhaps this isn't a good idea but it's worked well for me. That *may* not be a good idea. There was a big thing about (IIRC) Vauxhalls on which the A-arm would bend when this was done. Best to use the jacking points IMHO. After all, they are designed or the purpose. -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l (Really) Sprint 1.7 Triumph Speed Triple: Black with extra black bits www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk |
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> I have heard of this with steel wheels, but should this really be
happening > to alloys after just 18 months on the road? Don't think of this corrosion like you would rust. You get corrosion when you put two different types of metal together - there's just a reaction. Only in extreme circumstances would a steel wheel rust onto a steel hub. It really is very normal and nothing to worry about - ask anyone in a tyre place. But get some copper grease to stop it happening again. -- Remove Xs to reply direct |
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I would love to use the jacking points on the 156JTS, but there don't seem
to be any! There is a ridge runs right from the front to rear wheels and there is a matching notch out of the jack, but there is no indication of where along the ridge I should place the jack - there is no little triangle, arrows, or marks on the ridge. I put the jack either side of ridge, about 10cm back from the front wheel arch and when I started jacking it creaked and looked like it was going to bend, so I took it back down again and moved it further along from the wheel, where it seemed stronger, but much further away from the wheel than on other cars I have jacked up. Whilst I love Alfas, I don't know much about mechanics - can change oil, etc, but that's it. So I don't know what an A-arm is - I think it is part of the suspension and I'm guessing that it is 'A' shaped, but how do I find it? "Catman" > wrote in message .. . > Carl Farrington wrote: > > > Gareth Tuckwell wrote: > >> Also - there are no jacking point markings front or rear under the car > >> (normally there are little triangles or arrows) - any pointers there > >> as the pictures in the handbook don't match the car or the jack?!? > >> > > > > I've always found jacking points to not look very strong, so I always jack > > the A-arm up. It also has the benefit that you aren't jacking up the car > > on the suspension while the wheel stays on the floor. I'm no spanner-man > > so perhaps this isn't a good idea but it's worked well for me. > > That *may* not be a good idea. There was a big thing about (IIRC) > Vauxhalls on which the A-arm would bend when this was done. Best to use > the jacking points IMHO. After all, they are designed or the purpose. > -- > Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 > Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) > Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l (Really) Sprint 1.7 > Triumph Speed Triple: Black with extra black bits > www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk |
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