PLEASE .. need help putting a 351w in a 67

Hi .. I bought a rebuilt 351w from a guy that swore that it would
fit in my mustang. (67)

But I have two big problems.

1st is the sump hump on the pan runs into the steering linkage and
crossmember. So .. do they sell a pan oil pump kit that moves the
hump to the front ?


2nd is that neither the headers that came with the 351 or the standard
exaust manifolds from the old eng dont fit. Please tell me that someone
makes a header kit for this mix.

thanks a bunch and sorry if this has been asked
before, I have been googling all nite with no answers.

mike

Mike_in_SD wrote:
> Hi .. I bought a rebuilt 351w from a guy that swore that it would
> fit in my mustang. (67)
>
> But I have two big problems.
>
> 1st is the sump hump on the pan runs into the steering linkage and
> crossmember. So .. do they sell a pan oil pump kit that moves the
> hump to the front ?
>
>
> 2nd is that neither the headers that came with the 351 or the standard
> exaust manifolds from the old eng dont fit. Please tell me that someone
> makes a header kit for this mix.
>
> thanks a bunch and sorry if this has been asked
> before, I have been googling all nite with no answers.
>
> mike

Hedman Hedders make a 351 to early mustang set for automatic but you
did not state if it was auto or manual. also you need a aftermarket
front sump pan for the install. Let me know what else you have for me
to help more.

Mike_in_SD wrote:
> Hi .. I bought a rebuilt 351w from a guy that swore that it would
> fit in my mustang. (67)
>
> But I have two big problems.
>
> 1st is the sump hump on the pan runs into the steering linkage and
> crossmember. So .. do they sell a pan oil pump kit that moves the
> hump to the front ?
>
>
> 2nd is that neither the headers that came with the 351 or the standard
> exaust manifolds from the old eng dont fit. Please tell me that someone
> makes a header kit for this mix.
>
> thanks a bunch and sorry if this has been asked
> before, I have been googling all nite with no answers.
>
> mike

"Cobra65K" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Hedman Hedders make a 351 to early mustang set for automatic but you
> did not state if it was auto or manual. also you need a aftermarket
> front sump pan for the install. Let me know what else you have for me
> to help more.
>
> Mike_in_SD wrote:
>> Hi .. I bought a rebuilt 351w from a guy that swore that it would
>> fit in my mustang. (67)
>>
>> But I have two big problems.
>>
>> 1st is the sump hump on the pan runs into the steering linkage and
>> crossmember. So .. do they sell a pan oil pump kit that moves the
>> hump to the front ?
>>
>>
>> 2nd is that neither the headers that came with the 351 or the standard
>> exaust manifolds from the old eng dont fit. Please tell me that someone
>> makes a header kit for this mix.
>>
>> thanks a bunch and sorry if this has been asked
>> before, I have been googling all nite with no answers.
>>
>> mike
>

have used the original style "tri-by" headers in that application before.
The 69 style 351w oil pan is available aftermarket. you will need to change
the oil pump pickup.

(walt peifer) wrote in
>:

>"Cobra65K" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>> Hedman Hedders make a 351 to early mustang set for automatic but you
>> did not state if it was auto or manual. also you need a aftermarket
>> front sump pan for the install. Let me know what else you have for me
>> to help more.
>>
>> Mike_in_SD wrote:
>>>
>>> 1st is the sump hump on the pan runs into the steering linkage and
>>> crossmember. So .. do they sell a pan oil pump kit that moves the
>>> hump to the front ?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2nd is that neither the headers that came with the 351 or the
>>> standard exaust manifolds from the old eng dont fit. Please tell me
>>> that someone makes a header kit for this mix.
>>>
>have used the original style "tri-by" headers in that application
>before. The 69 style 351w oil pan is available aftermarket. you will
>need to change the oil pump pickup.
>
>

This is actually my son-in-laws car .. and just to complicate things
I checked the inside of the door and it says its a 65A. grin ..

My googling tells me that the shock towers are closer on a 65 than
a 67.

oh well .. can anyone tell me if the oil pan from the orig 289 will
fit the 351w, it has front sump.


mike

Mike_in_SD wrote:

> This is actually my son-in-laws car .. and just to complicate things
> I checked the inside of the door and it says its a 65A. grin ..
>
> My googling tells me that the shock towers are closer on a 65 than
> a 67.

True. Check with Mustangs Plus for headers to fit that
application.

>
> oh well .. can anyone tell me if the oil pan from the orig 289 will
> fit the 351w, it has front sump.

No, it will not. All V8 engines in early chassis need a front
sump pan. In '69 the Mustang was available with a 351W. You can
get a stock replacement, chrome plated, drag race, or road race
pan for this - depending on how much you want to spend. Again,
check with Mustangs Plus.

--
..boB
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2001 Dodge Dakota QC 5.9/4x4/3.92
1966 Mustang Coupe - Daily Driver
1965 FFR Cobra - 427W EFI, Damn Fast.

On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:17:39 -0600, ".boB"
> wrote:

>Mike_in_SD wrote:
>
>> This is actually my son-in-laws car .. and just to complicate things
>> I checked the inside of the door and it says its a 65A. grin ..
>>
>> My googling tells me that the shock towers are closer on a 65 than
>> a 67.
>
>True. Check with Mustangs Plus for headers to fit that
>application.
>
>>
>> oh well .. can anyone tell me if the oil pan from the orig 289 will
>> fit the 351w, it has front sump.
>
>No, it will not. All V8 engines in early chassis need a front
>sump pan. In '69 the Mustang was available with a 351W. You can
>get a stock replacement, chrome plated, drag race, or road race
>pan for this - depending on how much you want to spend. Again,
>check with Mustangs Plus.

Many engine shops advise avoiding chrome pans if the car is driven,
but OK for trailer queens, due to leakage around the seal.

(Spike) wrote in <8vevj2hanr4cgpjucmcrdp5uqd7k7lrbog@
4ax.com>:

>On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:17:39 -0600, ".boB"
> wrote:
>
>>Mike_in_SD wrote:
>>
>>> This is actually my son-in-laws car .. and just to complicate things
>>> I checked the inside of the door and it says its a 65A. grin ..
>>>
>>> My googling tells me that the shock towers are closer on a 65 than
>>> a 67.
>>
>>True. Check with Mustangs Plus for headers to fit that
>>application.
>>
>>>
>>> oh well .. can anyone tell me if the oil pan from the orig 289 will
>>> fit the 351w, it has front sump.
>>
>>No, it will not. All V8 engines in early chassis need a front
>>sump pan. In '69 the Mustang was available with a 351W. You can
>>get a stock replacement, chrome plated, drag race, or road race
>>pan for this - depending on how much you want to spend. Again,
>>check with Mustangs Plus.
>
>Many engine shops advise avoiding chrome pans if the car is driven,
>but OK for trailer queens, due to leakage around the seal.
>
>


wow .. ok guys .. great info ..

thanks so much

mike

Yes, just use the standard front sump oil pan available for any early
mustang 289/302/351 ,,they all fit. I have one in my garage on a 289 ,,but
there are thousands out there,,,in fact its the more common pan.
As far as headers Dougs makes a header specifically for this swap. The
problem is that its very close to the clutch z bar,,,and its hard to get in
there,,I did it in a 68.
The other issue is the engine mount ,,,, there is a problem with clearance
on 67 engines with stock mounts ,,,,this problem is a one year only problem
and from what I have heard some fit and some wont,,,, you have to find a
mount that works.
Steve



"Mike_in_SD" > wrote in message
.. .
>
> Hi .. I bought a rebuilt 351w from a guy that swore that it would
> fit in my mustang. (67)
>
> But I have two big problems.
>
> 1st is the sump hump on the pan runs into the steering linkage and
> crossmember. So .. do they sell a pan oil pump kit that moves the
> hump to the front ?
>
>
> 2nd is that neither the headers that came with the 351 or the standard
> exaust manifolds from the old eng dont fit. Please tell me that someone
> makes a header kit for this mix.
>
> thanks a bunch and sorry if this has been asked
> before, I have been googling all nite with no answers.
>
> mike

Steve wrote:
> Yes, just use the standard front sump oil pan available for any early
> mustang 289/302/351 ,,they all fit.

They all fit the chassis. But you can't use a 289/302 pan on a
351. The rear bearing cap is a different size.

--
..boB
Arrived: 2006 FXDI, Red.
1997 HD FXDWG - Turbocharged Stolen 11/26/05 in Denver
1HD1GEL10VY3200010 CO License J5822Z
2001 Dodge Dakota QC 5.9/4x4/3.92
1966 Mustang Coupe - Daily Driver
1965 FFR Cobra - 427W EFI, Damn Fast.