Oil change for new car?

Scott en Aztlán wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:01:11 -0700, "Bernard Farquart"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>>Bottom line, this crap about changing your engine oil every 3 months
>>>or 3000 miles was invented by the automotive service industry in order
>>>to boost sales. Sure, maybe some "severe service" vehicles like cops
>>>cars and taxicabs that spend a lot of time idling need that frequent
>>>of a schedule, but the ordinary cars that you and I drive sure don't.
>>
>>Actually, the service intervals were introduced when oil
>>had a much shorter useful life, and has not been updated
>>with each of the advances in oil formulation.
>
>
> Even if that were the case, you'd think that automotive service
> "experts" such as Jiffy Lube would know about advances in lubrication
> technology and would advise their customers accordingly. Yet
> strangely, they advocate the exact opposite - which, coincidentally,
> also generates more revenue for them.
>

Are you kidding? Jiffy Lube is probably using the cheapest oil they can
find, making a 3000 mile interval a good idea.

nate

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On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:39:21 -0400, Nate Nagel >
wrote:

>Are you kidding? Jiffy Lube is probably using the cheapest oil they can
>find

Pennzoil is cheap?

In article <1119829168.b3626d7e75d6624ca1f28e86d0babb18@teran ews>,
says...

>Are you kidding? Jiffy Lube is probably using the cheapest oil they can
>find, making a 3000 mile interval a good idea.

As long as it meets the proper standards, it doesn't matter. My family has had
many long lived cars, over 200k miles, using what ever was on sale and met the
car manufacturers standards.
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Alex

In article >,
Scott en Aztlán <newsgroup> wrote:
>On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:41:14 -0700, "C.H." >
>wrote:
>
>>It is not insurance against repairs. It's snake oil - doesn't hurt,
>>doesn't help. If you have the money and the environmental aspect of going
>>through 200-300 quarts of oil unnecessarily doesn't bother you, go right
>>ahead.
>
>While I agree with your main point, if the used motor oil is recycled
>properly, there are no "environmental aspects."

It still needs to be transported to the oil recycling place (fuel used)
and reprocessed (more energy used) and whatever non-usable crud is
filtered out needs to be disposed of (hazardous waste disposal). If
you care about environmental aspects, recycling is a second choice
compared to not using unnecessarily too much of it.

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"Timothy J. Lee" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Scott en Aztlán <newsgroup> wrote:
>>On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:41:14 -0700, "C.H." >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>It is not insurance against repairs. It's snake oil - doesn't hurt,
>>>doesn't help. If you have the money and the environmental aspect of going
>>>through 200-300 quarts of oil unnecessarily doesn't bother you, go right
>>>ahead.
>>
>>While I agree with your main point, if the used motor oil is recycled
>>properly, there are no "environmental aspects."
>
> It still needs to be transported to the oil recycling place (fuel used)
> and reprocessed (more energy used) and whatever non-usable crud is
> filtered out needs to be disposed of (hazardous waste disposal). If
> you care about environmental aspects, recycling is a second choice
> compared to not using unnecessarily too much of it.
>
Let's all sing along, Reduce, Reuse, Recycle, they are each
a part of the whole idea. Use less, use things longer (until they
can not be used, not until they aren't shiny) and take what is
left over and make something new out of it.

It's all good, bro.

Bernard

"Scott en Aztlán" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:51:28 GMT, 223rem > wrote:
>
>>> engines. If your new car has a "maintenance minder" built into the
>>> powertrain control unit, then you'll be able to optimize your oil
>>> change intervals.
>>
>>It does. I was thinking that it was just a cute but useless
>>feature.
>
> On the contrary! It's one of the better applications of computer
> technology to the automobile to come along. No longer do you have to
> guess whether your car is seeing "severe service" or just "normal use"
> - the computer knows how much time you spend idling, the operating
> temperatures, exact range of engine speeds, and a hundred other
> important variables, and can make an accurate determination.
>

Assuming that it is actually doing all those things.

On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:24:40 -0400, "James C. Reeves"
> wrote:

>>>It does. I was thinking that it was just a cute but useless
>>>feature.
>>
>> On the contrary! It's one of the better applications of computer
>> technology to the automobile to come along. No longer do you have to
>> guess whether your car is seeing "severe service" or just "normal use"
>> - the computer knows how much time you spend idling, the operating
>> temperatures, exact range of engine speeds, and a hundred other
>> important variables, and can make an accurate determination.
>
>Assuming that it is actually doing all those things.

Do you have any evidence to the contrary?

In my experience, the dashboard "change oil NOW" display does not line
up precisely with the mileages listed in the owner's manual. Either
the programmer threw in a random offset to fudge things, or there are
more variables being considered than mere mileage.