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Frank,
Most have anti-drain back these days, but some valve designs are more effective than others: http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html Interestingly, Canadian Tire Motomaster/Formula One filters are all rebranded Frams. Same is true of Quaker State/Pennzoil. If you're buying filters at Canadian Tire, get K&N. Elsewhere, try Carquest Premium (aka NAPA Gold). Even some Mopar filters are Frams in disguise: http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oil...udy-mopar.html Steve http://xjeep.dyndns.org FrankW wrote: > Well I wouldn't be surprised if the cheapest Crappy tire > filter didn't have one. Actually someone told me that some don't. > Didn't mention a brand though. > > Jerry Bransford wrote: > >> I haven't heard of any oil filter that doesn't have a check valve >> Frank. Even the cheapest Fram filters have that. |
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Did you guys see this link as posted in the other Mobil One thread?
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters.html Although one man's un-qualified test, it's good info. JimG "Mike Romain" wrote in message ... > The ones that call for a backflow valve get them, especially the CT > ones! > > I do not think the filter on the 258 has one because the filter sits > down so it can't empty out by itself. Not sure about the 4.0 filters. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > FrankW wrote: >> >> Well I wouldn't be surprised if the cheapest Crappy tire >> filter didn't have one. Actually someone told me that some don't. >> Didn't mention a brand though. >> >> Jerry Bransford wrote: >> >> > I haven't heard of any oil filter that doesn't have a check valve >> > Frank. >> > Even the cheapest Fram filters have that. >> > >> > Jerry >> > >> > FrankW wrote: >> > >> >> I heard somewhere that the better filters have a check valve >> >> to prevent the back flow of oil. This true? >> >> I always get the mopar filter, but which filters are >> >> considered better than OEM? >> >> >> >> |
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Hi Frank,
The check valve is what you see in the radius holes, like the oil is pump through the rubber looking flapper valve to the out side of the filter element to enter to the center part that's screwed on the pipe connected to the engine's oil galleys. Here's probably different in the qualities of the bypass valves attached to the other end of the screw-on, that would be very important in an all out hot rod. I can just barley recognize those valves in this pictu http://billhughes.com/mirror/filter-fram2.gif God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O http://www.billhughes.com/ FrankW wrote: > > Well I wouldn't be surprised if the cheapest Crappy tire > filter didn't have one. Actually someone told me that some don't. > Didn't mention a brand though. |
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Yep, presence of the 'anti-drain back' valve depends on the application.
Many are still produced without the valve. I don't think though that you can find any non-valve filters listed for the 4.0L. Steve http://xjeep.dyndns.org Mike Romain wrote: > The ones that call for a backflow valve get them, especially the CT > ones! > > I do not think the filter on the 258 has one because the filter sits > down so it can't empty out by itself. Not sure about the 4.0 filters. >> >>Jerry Bransford wrote: >> >>>I haven't heard of any oil filter that doesn't have a check valve Frank. >>> Even the cheapest Fram filters have that. |
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Good link, thanks
Frank Steve wrote: > Frank, > > Most have anti-drain back these days, but some valve designs are more > effective than others: > > http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html > > Interestingly, Canadian Tire Motomaster/Formula One filters are all > rebranded Frams. Same is true of Quaker State/Pennzoil. If you're buying > filters at Canadian Tire, get K&N. Elsewhere, try Carquest Premium (aka > NAPA Gold). > > Even some Mopar filters are Frams in disguise: > > http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oil...udy-mopar.html > > Steve > http://xjeep.dyndns.org > > > FrankW wrote: > >> Well I wouldn't be surprised if the cheapest Crappy tire >> filter didn't have one. Actually someone told me that some don't. >> Didn't mention a brand though. >> >> Jerry Bransford wrote: >> >>> I haven't heard of any oil filter that doesn't have a check valve >>> Frank. Even the cheapest Fram filters have that. |
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Just did some reading and found out that the Canadian Tire Formula 1
synthetic filters are based on the relatively decent Fram ToughGuard as opposed to the notoriously awful paper/cardboard ExtraGuard. Maybe not a bad choice after all. The Quaker State & Pennzoil filters are ExtraGuards. Steve http://xjeep.dyndns.org FrankW wrote: > Good link, thanks > > Steve wrote: >> >> Interestingly, Canadian Tire Motomaster/Formula One filters are all >> rebranded Frams. Same is true of Quaker State/Pennzoil. |
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That Canadian Tire place must be the $hit up there! All you guys from CA
talk about it. JimG "Steve" wrote in message ... > Just did some reading and found out that the Canadian Tire Formula 1 > synthetic filters are based on the relatively decent Fram ToughGuard as > opposed to the notoriously awful paper/cardboard ExtraGuard. Maybe not a > bad choice after all. The Quaker State & Pennzoil filters are ExtraGuards. > |
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It's kind of a love/hate relationship. Think Walmart with a Pep Boys inside.
http://www.canadiantire.ca Steve http://xjeep.dyndns.org JimG wrote: > That Canadian Tire place must be the $hit up there! All you guys from CA > talk about it. > > JimG > > "Steve" wrote in message ... > >>Just did some reading and found out that the Canadian Tire Formula 1 >>synthetic filters are based on the relatively decent Fram ToughGuard as >>opposed to the notoriously awful paper/cardboard ExtraGuard. Maybe not a >>bad choice after all. The Quaker State & Pennzoil filters are ExtraGuards. |
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It is a Canada wide chain open 7 days a week with lifetime tools and
excellent warranties on things like tires, batteries, flats fixes, etc. They have everything from camping and sports to hardware, welding equipment and shop tools to automotive. When I did a frame up rebuild on my CJ7 they got all kinds of parts for it, ones even Chrysler couldn't come up with like t-case shift fork seals, carb kits, etc.... Some folks think because they buy parts in bulk so they can sell them cheaper that the quality is lower. Most times they are the same parts from the same makers even in the same boxes but 1/4 the price. Seals for 10 bucks with the same part number in the same bag as the $tealers $40.00 ones. Same for a gas filter once, $12.00 vs the $tealers $45.00 on a Volvo I once had. Same bosch box, same part number.... Even the house brand boxes have name brand parts in them, CT doesn't make anything... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's JimG wrote: > > That Canadian Tire place must be the $hit up there! All you guys from CA > talk about it. > > JimG > > "Steve" wrote in message ... > > Just did some reading and found out that the Canadian Tire Formula 1 > > synthetic filters are based on the relatively decent Fram ToughGuard as > > opposed to the notoriously awful paper/cardboard ExtraGuard. Maybe not a > > bad choice after all. The Quaker State & Pennzoil filters are ExtraGuards. > > |
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LOL!
Mike Steve wrote: > > It's kind of a love/hate relationship. Think Walmart with a Pep Boys inside. > > http://www.canadiantire.ca > > Steve > http://xjeep.dyndns.org > > JimG wrote: > > That Canadian Tire place must be the $hit up there! All you guys from CA > > talk about it. > > > > JimG > > > > "Steve" wrote in message ... > > > >>Just did some reading and found out that the Canadian Tire Formula 1 > >>synthetic filters are based on the relatively decent Fram ToughGuard as > >>opposed to the notoriously awful paper/cardboard ExtraGuard. Maybe not a > >>bad choice after all. The Quaker State & Pennzoil filters are ExtraGuards. |
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