Just to let everyone know

Bill,
I'm surprised you didn't post the pic of the tow strap through the seat.

I was in clay, in a swampy area that has been flooded for about 20 years.
After we got out of the mud, my brother said he had a 4 wheeler stuck there
about a week earlier, and almost didn't get it out. We looked for a
come-a-long, but couldn't find it. The tires on the tractor are about 5
feet tall, and it couldn't pull me out. A come-a-long probably would have
broken, I had the frame on the ground. When I get a winch, it will probably
be the Warn 9500ti. I will probably get a come-a-long until then, and also
use my highlift to pull with. A lift with bigger tires might have helped a
little bit.

When in mud, are you supposed to air up or down? I was at normal psi, just
wondering if less would have been better. Also learned the best way to bust
up a beaver dam is to drive over it. I know tread lightly, but they are
destroying farm land, so we are trying to encourage them to move without
having to kill them. I am also thinking a boat anchor tied to the jeep will
work to pull it throught the dam to bust it up.

Patrick
Ô¿Ô

"L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
> http://www.jonfund.com/technical/tec.../winchtech.pdf
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> If you don't practice safe winching procedures, no place around or even
>> in the vehicle is safe.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

I forgot to mention, I went to Gatlinburg, TN, and got 18 miles to the
gallon. I thought it would be alot less. All the travel was on backroads.
I figured going over the mountains would take less gas, bit didn't. I can't
wait to see what it will be when the computer gets to know me.

Patrick
Ô¿Ô

"Patrick Ô¿Ô" > wrote in message
...
> Good thing for me is she cant drive a stick :-). Got it in the mud today,
> found out first thing to buy for it is a winch. I did the stupid thing
> and stoped in mud, wanted to test the tires, not as good as I hoped. Went
> and got one of the tractors to pull it out, and got it stuck too. Had to
> get a second tractor to push the first to take slack off tow strap, then
> had to use chain and lengthen everything. Second tractor is new, so had
> better tires. It pulled it out without much trouble. Kaki does look
> pretty good with mud. Now I just have to wait until next weekend to see
> how it does on dry trails. Already have 500 miles on it and Love It.
>
> Patrick
> Ô¿Ô
>
> "jbjeep" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Now...all she has to do is get the keys away from you! =)
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 23 May 2005 08:28:44 -0400, "Patrick Ô¿Ô"
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>She loves the color of mud, she almost cried when we gave them the keys
>>>>to
>>>>my 02. Yellow and mud go good together, now to just find out what kaki
>>>>and
>>>>mud look like.
>>>>
>>>>Patrick
>>>>Ô¿Ô
>>>>
>>>>"Patrick" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>i hope you wife will like the color of the mud on that new toy !!!
>>>>>
>>>>> lol
>>>>>
>>>>> Pat
>>>>>
>>>>> "Patrick Ô¿Ô" > a écrit dans le
>>>>> message
>>>>> de news: ...
>>>>>>I asked the dealer if they could switch tops, but my wife said no she
>>>>>>like
>>>>>>the matching colors. That solved that, she let me get the jeep so I
>>>>>>didn't want to push my luck. How many rubicons did you end up
>>>>>>getting? I
>>>>>>remember you have trouble with atleast one that DC replaced for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>> Ô¿Ô
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Nathan W. Collier" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> congratulations patrick, thats awesome. youll grow to love the
>>>>>>> khaki, i
>>>>>>> sure did. its my favorite color i think. i would have got my '05
>>>>>>> rubicon in khaki (just like my '03 was) had it been available with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> black top.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Nathan W. Collier
>>>>>>> http://7SlotGrille.com
>>>>>>> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Patrick Ô¿Ô" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> Went to the Stealership today to see what they had, they had
>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>> sold the red unlimited rubi a few weeks earlier, and they had a
>>>>>>>> kaki
>>>>>>>> one on the lot. It had all the options I wanted, but hadn't
>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>> about the kaki, but my wife said she liked it, so I looked at it a
>>>>>>>> little closer. It is the 6 spd, so I took it for a test drive. It
>>>>>>>> drove Great. Went back to the dealership and salesman wanted to
>>>>>>>> talk
>>>>>>>> money. I had been talking to a different dealer for a while and
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> couldn't get the money where I wanted it. an hour later I traded
>>>>>>>> in my
>>>>>>>> 2002 X and drove away in a Kaki Rubicon Unlimited. I guess it is
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> wifes fault since I was going to wait and find a Red one. Only one
>>>>>>>> thing I don't like is already running 2K RPM's in 6th at 50.
>>>>>>>> Mileage
>>>>>>>> is going to suffer I guess. Guess that is what happens when you go
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> 3.07 gears to 4.11. Tires were about the same, I had 31 inch BFG
>>>>>>>> A/T's
>>>>>>>> on the other, these equate to about 30 and 1/2 inches.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>>> Ô¿Ô
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>

Yes, but everyone knows that's fake:
http://www.southernhighrollers.com/t..._miss_from.htm
Tow strap breaks: http://166.70.18.182/video/cc.mpeg
Sounds like a job for a backhoe.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

"Patrick Ô¿Ô" wrote:
>
> Bill,
> I'm surprised you didn't post the pic of the tow strap through the seat.
>
> I was in clay, in a swampy area that has been flooded for about 20 years.
> After we got out of the mud, my brother said he had a 4 wheeler stuck there
> about a week earlier, and almost didn't get it out. We looked for a
> come-a-long, but couldn't find it. The tires on the tractor are about 5
> feet tall, and it couldn't pull me out. A come-a-long probably would have
> broken, I had the frame on the ground. When I get a winch, it will probably
> be the Warn 9500ti. I will probably get a come-a-long until then, and also
> use my highlift to pull with. A lift with bigger tires might have helped a
> little bit.
>
> When in mud, are you supposed to air up or down? I was at normal psi, just
> wondering if less would have been better. Also learned the best way to bust
> up a beaver dam is to drive over it. I know tread lightly, but they are
> destroying farm land, so we are trying to encourage them to move without
> having to kill them. I am also thinking a boat anchor tied to the jeep will
> work to pull it throught the dam to bust it up.
>
> Patrick
> Ô¿Ô
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" > wrote in message
> ...
> > http://www.jonfund.com/technical/tec.../winchtech.pdf
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > http://www.billhughes.com/
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> If you don't practice safe winching procedures, no place around or even
> >> in the vehicle is safe.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

I'm glad you haven't had a bad experience with one, Bill. My dad had a cheap
one and the rope broke and cut his leg quite nastily. I bought him a tirfor
thing after that which was allegedly the same rating (3 ton) - very nice
piece of kit indeed to have. (and the price was several hundred bucks more
than the cheapo one that broke).

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Dave,
> I've never had a bad experience with them other than the cheap ones
> their handles bend, making them useless. This one on the left I got from
> an San Diego Gas & Electric employee in their tool a month club:
> http://www.billhughes.com/chaintightener.jpg I do treat it with respect
> covering it with a carpet remits, while pulling a dead pine tree in the
> back yard bank over: http://www.billhughes.com/pineTree.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I'm with Steve - those things are f*king lethal - no way are their
ratings
> > real. Buy something decent like a griphoist/tirfor or whatever you call
them
> > your side of the pond, and you will see what their interpretation of a
1.5-3
> > ton winch is ; a lot bigger.
> >
> > You can't avoid being near those come-along things, and they don't obey
the
> > number one rule of winch design; i.e. the rope is NOT the weakest link.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Hi Dave,
Rope? Even the cheapies are cable here. Maybe we're thinking of
something different.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I'm glad you haven't had a bad experience with one, Bill. My dad had a cheap
> one and the rope broke and cut his leg quite nastily. I bought him a tirfor
> thing after that which was allegedly the same rating (3 ton) - very nice
> piece of kit indeed to have. (and the price was several hundred bucks more
> than the cheapo one that broke).

sorry, my terminology. It was cable.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Dave,
> Rope? Even the cheapies are cable here. Maybe we're thinking of
> something different.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I'm glad you haven't had a bad experience with one, Bill. My dad had a
cheap
> > one and the rope broke and cut his leg quite nastily. I bought him a
tirfor
> > thing after that which was allegedly the same rating (3 ton) - very nice
> > piece of kit indeed to have. (and the price was several hundred bucks
more
> > than the cheapo one that broke).

That sure is a case of 'you get what you pay for'!!!!!

If you stay with the brand name tools, the odds are you will be happy
with them.

The problem with these 'fence tighteners' is there are so many cheap
knock offs.

I is like the original Canadian 'Jack All' brand of barn lifting and
post pulling jacks. First the Americans imitated it with their cheaper
and lighter 'High Lift' jack, then the asians have imitate it with
'really' cheaply made 'no name' ones. The North American made ones are
still good quality.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> sorry, my terminology. It was cable.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi Dave,
> > Rope? Even the cheapies are cable here. Maybe we're thinking of
> > something different.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > http://www.billhughes.com/
> >
> > Dave Milne wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm glad you haven't had a bad experience with one, Bill. My dad had a
> cheap
> > > one and the rope broke and cut his leg quite nastily. I bought him a
> tirfor
> > > thing after that which was allegedly the same rating (3 ton) - very nice
> > > piece of kit indeed to have. (and the price was several hundred bucks
> more
> > > than the cheapo one that broke).