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Old November 21st 04, 04:48 PM
Paul Regal
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Default High Mileage VW Bug Mileage

Has anyone ever setup a VW Bug for High Mileage?
I have a 68 Bug..wanna set it up for HIGHER Mileage
any setups or carbs available anywhere?
Thanks
Paul


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Old November 21st 04, 05:11 PM
Jan Andersson
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Paul Regal wrote:
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> Has anyone ever setup a VW Bug for High Mileage?
> I have a 68 Bug..wanna set it up for HIGHER Mileage
> any setups or carbs available anywhere?
> Thanks
> Paul


Rebuild the engine and tune it to perfection. Instant 20-30%
improvement, and zero modifications.

This applies to most neglected VW beetle engines out there (most of them
are).

Jan
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Old November 21st 04, 05:17 PM
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Paul Regal wrote:

> Has anyone ever setup a VW Bug for High Mileage?
> I have a 68 Bug..wanna set it up for HIGHER Mileage
> any setups or carbs available anywhere?
> Thanks
> Paul
>

Install wooden block under gas pedal.


Speedy Jim
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Old November 21st 04, 05:46 PM
Paul Regal
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Thanks Jan and Speedy Jim
Have either of you ever heard of or seen these carb before please?

The 100 MPG Carburetor Myth




"Paul Regal" > wrote in message
...
> Has anyone ever setup a VW Bug for High Mileage?
> I have a 68 Bug..wanna set it up for HIGHER Mileage
> any setups or carbs available anywhere?
> Thanks
> Paul
>



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Old November 21st 04, 07:28 PM
Jan Andersson
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Nope, never heard. Google might know something.


In general, an engine needs to be fed a certain amount of gasoline and
air mixture for it to operate properly. If everything is in good shape,
it is very difficult to reduce consumption without risking something..
first thing that comes to mind is eliminating the auto choke, and
jetting the carb lean. Missing choke causes accelerated wear and if you
pump the gas pedal when the engine is cold to keep it running, you win
nothing. Running the engine lean will eventually cause engine breakdown,
as well as poor performance from the beginning. (You end up pushing the
pedal in deeper, especially to compensate for the take-off "bog", and
thus you both make the ill effects worse, AND use more fuel too.. so no
savings there)

The VW aircooled engine just isn't a particularly economical engine to
drive. It's old technology, and for a car that size & weight, the fuel
consumption is horrible compared to today's technology.

But low fuel consumption is NOT why you would buy an old beetle anyway,
is it? If that's what you are after, buy a diesel Lupo.

The hands down winner in the list of tricks to reduce fuel consumption
is the easiest too. Keep your foot out of it.



Jan


Paul Regal wrote:
>
> Thanks Jan and Speedy Jim
> Have either of you ever heard of or seen these carb before please?
>
> The 100 MPG Carburetor Myth
>
> "Paul Regal" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Has anyone ever setup a VW Bug for High Mileage?
> > I have a 68 Bug..wanna set it up for HIGHER Mileage
> > any setups or carbs available anywhere?
> > Thanks
> > Paul
> >

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Old November 22nd 04, 01:43 AM
ilambert
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From memories of Mobile runs the routine goes like this 1.Raise tire
pressures(45# sounds right) 2.Smaller jets in
carb.3.Remove excess from trunk(tools,bodies,ect.)4.Stronger spring on
throttle linkage.5.Light weight oil in crankcase .There are a lot more silly
things that they would do also but that should get you enough trouble for
now.Even the best ACVW is a gas guzzler by todays standards.Domestic
Pick-em-ups get better mileage care of EFI and computers.Frankly, the way
you drive has more to do with mileage than anything.
"Jan Andersson" > wrote in message
...
> Nope, never heard. Google might know something.
>
>
> In general, an engine needs to be fed a certain amount of gasoline and
> air mixture for it to operate properly. If everything is in good shape,
> it is very difficult to reduce consumption without risking something..
> first thing that comes to mind is eliminating the auto choke, and
> jetting the carb lean. Missing choke causes accelerated wear and if you
> pump the gas pedal when the engine is cold to keep it running, you win
> nothing. Running the engine lean will eventually cause engine breakdown,
> as well as poor performance from the beginning. (You end up pushing the
> pedal in deeper, especially to compensate for the take-off "bog", and
> thus you both make the ill effects worse, AND use more fuel too.. so no
> savings there)
>
> The VW aircooled engine just isn't a particularly economical engine to
> drive. It's old technology, and for a car that size & weight, the fuel
> consumption is horrible compared to today's technology.
>
> But low fuel consumption is NOT why you would buy an old beetle anyway,
> is it? If that's what you are after, buy a diesel Lupo.
>
> The hands down winner in the list of tricks to reduce fuel consumption
> is the easiest too. Keep your foot out of it.
>
>
>
> Jan
>
>
> Paul Regal wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Jan and Speedy Jim
>> Have either of you ever heard of or seen these carb before please?
>>
>> The 100 MPG Carburetor Myth
>>
>> "Paul Regal" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Has anyone ever setup a VW Bug for High Mileage?
>> > I have a 68 Bug..wanna set it up for HIGHER Mileage
>> > any setups or carbs available anywhere?
>> > Thanks
>> > Paul
>> >



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Old November 22nd 04, 11:12 AM
tricky
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http://www.southernvolksfolks.com/tech/46mpg.html

cant remember which way round it works but US gallon and UK Gallon are
different ammounts so dont know how good 46mpg is !

The above link shows and article on high mgp attempt.

Rich

ilambert wrote:

> From memories of Mobile runs the routine goes like this 1.Raise tire
> pressures(45# sounds right) 2.Smaller jets in
> carb.3.Remove excess from trunk(tools,bodies,ect.)4.Stronger spring on
> throttle linkage.5.Light weight oil in crankcase .There are a lot more silly
> things that they would do also but that should get you enough trouble for
> now.Even the best ACVW is a gas guzzler by todays standards.Domestic
> Pick-em-ups get better mileage care of EFI and computers.Frankly, the way
> you drive has more to do with mileage than anything.
> "Jan Andersson" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Nope, never heard. Google might know something.
>>
>>
>>In general, an engine needs to be fed a certain amount of gasoline and
>>air mixture for it to operate properly. If everything is in good shape,
>>it is very difficult to reduce consumption without risking something..
>>first thing that comes to mind is eliminating the auto choke, and
>>jetting the carb lean. Missing choke causes accelerated wear and if you
>>pump the gas pedal when the engine is cold to keep it running, you win
>>nothing. Running the engine lean will eventually cause engine breakdown,
>>as well as poor performance from the beginning. (You end up pushing the
>>pedal in deeper, especially to compensate for the take-off "bog", and
>>thus you both make the ill effects worse, AND use more fuel too.. so no
>>savings there)
>>
>>The VW aircooled engine just isn't a particularly economical engine to
>>drive. It's old technology, and for a car that size & weight, the fuel
>>consumption is horrible compared to today's technology.
>>
>>But low fuel consumption is NOT why you would buy an old beetle anyway,
>>is it? If that's what you are after, buy a diesel Lupo.
>>
>>The hands down winner in the list of tricks to reduce fuel consumption
>>is the easiest too. Keep your foot out of it.
>>
>>
>>
>>Jan
>>
>>
>>Paul Regal wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks Jan and Speedy Jim
>>>Have either of you ever heard of or seen these carb before please?
>>>
>>> The 100 MPG Carburetor Myth
>>>
>>>"Paul Regal" > wrote in message
.. .
>>>
>>>>Has anyone ever setup a VW Bug for High Mileage?
>>>>I have a 68 Bug..wanna set it up for HIGHER Mileage
>>>>any setups or carbs available anywhere?
>>>>Thanks
>>>>Paul
>>>>

>
>
>


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Old November 22nd 04, 05:03 PM
Red Bug
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In article >,
tricky > wrote:

> cant remember which way round it works but US gallon and UK Gallon are
> different ammounts so dont know how good 46mpg is !


The change is quite significant... 46 miles per imperial gallon converts
to 38.3 miles per US gallon.

There are only 0.833 imperial gallons in a US gallon. Canada uses the
imperial gallon.

Not sure of the history behind this... I'd have to Google it... but the
solution is rather obvious... METRIC SYSTEM!

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Old November 23rd 04, 08:55 PM
Howard Rose
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:12:00 GMT, tricky >
wrote:

>http://www.southernvolksfolks.com/tech/46mpg.html
>
>cant remember which way round it works but US gallon and UK Gallon are
>different ammounts so dont know how good 46mpg is !
>
>The above link shows and article on high mgp attempt.


1 UK gallon is 4.55 litres.
1 US gallon is 3.79 litres.

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1962 Austin Mini Deluxe
1964 Austin Mini Super Deluxe
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Old November 21st 04, 05:53 PM
Tim Rogers
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"Paul Regal" > wrote in message
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>
> Has anyone ever setup a VW Bug for High Mileage?
> I have a 68 Bug..wanna set it up for HIGHER Mileage
> any setups or carbs available anywhere?
>
>


................A stock engine with the original carburetor is about the best
available option for gas economy in a pre-75 year model bug. Driving style
is far more important. You're not going to match the 38 mpg at 65 mph of a
Honda civic with an aircooled engine that was designed 70 years ago unless
you drive it at a much lower speed. Even then, you'll have trouble getting
30 mpg unless everything is perfect.

............With my '77 bug, the L-Jetronic EFI with a stock cam & exhaust
system on a fully balanced Berg 1679 gets about 28 or 29 mpg at a steady 65
mph. Unfortunately, I like to drive at 75 to 85 mph...........lol


 




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