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Old December 7th 04, 07:39 AM
James Goforth
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What kind of ATF is to be used in a '90 Caravan 3.3 with the automatic
overdrive (604, I believe) transmission?
What happens if you put Dexron/Mercon in it (and what is the
difference between the fluids)?

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Old December 8th 04, 06:58 AM
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James Goforth wrote:

> What kind of ATF is to be used in a '90 Caravan 3.3 with the automatic
> overdrive (604, I believe) transmission?
> What happens if you put Dexron/Mercon in it (and what is the
> difference between the fluids)?
>


Chrysler-spec ATF+3 or ATF+4.

Dexron has different friction characteristics. If you use Dexron you
will save a little bit of money, the different friction characteristics
will cause the clutches and lockup converter to get grabbier and get
damaged as the computer tries in vain to compensate for the non-spec
fluid, and you then will pay about a hundred times more money than you
saved by using Dexron in the first place, to get your transmission fixed.

DON'T USE DEXRON in it.

PERIOD.
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Old December 8th 04, 06:58 AM
Gene Poon
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James Goforth wrote:

> What kind of ATF is to be used in a '90 Caravan 3.3 with the automatic
> overdrive (604, I believe) transmission?
> What happens if you put Dexron/Mercon in it (and what is the
> difference between the fluids)?
>


Chrysler-spec ATF+3 or ATF+4.

Dexron has different friction characteristics. If you use Dexron you
will save a little bit of money, the different friction characteristics
will cause the clutches and lockup converter to get grabbier and get
damaged as the computer tries in vain to compensate for the non-spec
fluid, and you then will pay about a hundred times more money than you
saved by using Dexron in the first place, to get your transmission fixed.

DON'T USE DEXRON in it.

PERIOD.
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Old December 10th 04, 04:19 AM
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And don't believe anyone who tells you they have an additive that "makes
Dexron/Mercon Chrysler compatible" either. Stick with the real stuff.

"Gene Poon" > wrote in message
...
> James Goforth wrote:
>
>> What kind of ATF is to be used in a '90 Caravan 3.3 with the automatic
>> overdrive (604, I believe) transmission?
>> What happens if you put Dexron/Mercon in it (and what is the
>> difference between the fluids)?
>>

>
> Chrysler-spec ATF+3 or ATF+4.
>
> Dexron has different friction characteristics. If you use Dexron you will
> save a little bit of money, the different friction characteristics will
> cause the clutches and lockup converter to get grabbier and get damaged as
> the computer tries in vain to compensate for the non-spec fluid, and you
> then will pay about a hundred times more money than you saved by using
> Dexron in the first place, to get your transmission fixed.
>
> DON'T USE DEXRON in it.
>
> PERIOD.



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Old December 10th 04, 04:19 AM
gad
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And don't believe anyone who tells you they have an additive that "makes
Dexron/Mercon Chrysler compatible" either. Stick with the real stuff.

"Gene Poon" > wrote in message
...
> James Goforth wrote:
>
>> What kind of ATF is to be used in a '90 Caravan 3.3 with the automatic
>> overdrive (604, I believe) transmission?
>> What happens if you put Dexron/Mercon in it (and what is the
>> difference between the fluids)?
>>

>
> Chrysler-spec ATF+3 or ATF+4.
>
> Dexron has different friction characteristics. If you use Dexron you will
> save a little bit of money, the different friction characteristics will
> cause the clutches and lockup converter to get grabbier and get damaged as
> the computer tries in vain to compensate for the non-spec fluid, and you
> then will pay about a hundred times more money than you saved by using
> Dexron in the first place, to get your transmission fixed.
>
> DON'T USE DEXRON in it.
>
> PERIOD.



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Old December 10th 04, 05:02 AM
James Goforth
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Not to be redundant, but is the above mentioned ATF compatible with
the older Chryslers manufactured even before this new ATF came out?
Or are you better off using Dexron in the old cars which came with it?
Unless that would just be a waste of money (I don't know how much more
expensive the new stuff is).

86 Lebaron (3 spd auto)
90 and 89 Caravan (604's)

BTW is the above mentioned LeBaron supposed to have a lock-up converter?
I thought pretty much everything had one by that year (it's a 2.2).

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Old December 10th 04, 05:02 AM
James Goforth
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Not to be redundant, but is the above mentioned ATF compatible with
the older Chryslers manufactured even before this new ATF came out?
Or are you better off using Dexron in the old cars which came with it?
Unless that would just be a waste of money (I don't know how much more
expensive the new stuff is).

86 Lebaron (3 spd auto)
90 and 89 Caravan (604's)

BTW is the above mentioned LeBaron supposed to have a lock-up converter?
I thought pretty much everything had one by that year (it's a 2.2).

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Old December 10th 04, 09:15 AM
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James Goforth wrote:

> Not to be redundant, but is the above mentioned ATF compatible with
> the older Chryslers manufactured even before this new ATF came out?
> Or are you better off using Dexron in the old cars which came with it?
> Unless that would just be a waste of money (I don't know how much more
> expensive the new stuff is).
>
> 86 Lebaron (3 spd auto)
> 90 and 89 Caravan (604's)

===============================

A 3-speed Torqueflite without lockup converter can use Dexron.

ANY 604 can NOT.

=======================================
>
> BTW is the above mentioned LeBaron supposed to have a lock-up converter?
> I thought pretty much everything had one by that year (it's a 2.2).

===================================

Good question, in this context; and I don't know about that particular
combination.


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Old December 10th 04, 09:15 AM
Gene Poon
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James Goforth wrote:

> Not to be redundant, but is the above mentioned ATF compatible with
> the older Chryslers manufactured even before this new ATF came out?
> Or are you better off using Dexron in the old cars which came with it?
> Unless that would just be a waste of money (I don't know how much more
> expensive the new stuff is).
>
> 86 Lebaron (3 spd auto)
> 90 and 89 Caravan (604's)

===============================

A 3-speed Torqueflite without lockup converter can use Dexron.

ANY 604 can NOT.

=======================================
>
> BTW is the above mentioned LeBaron supposed to have a lock-up converter?
> I thought pretty much everything had one by that year (it's a 2.2).

===================================

Good question, in this context; and I don't know about that particular
combination.


 




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