Damn pigs need a good kicking in the teeth...

> Cory Dunkle wrote:
of course I don't expect anything to be done about
> this
> > "officers" reckless behavior, but at least I'll feel better for
> reporting it
> > and having it on paper, assuming the pigs don't shred it and
pretend
> like
> > nothing ever happened.
> >
> > Cory

Furious George wrote:
> Thanks for the heads up. The next time I see NJ municipal plate
> MG40715, I'll know to be extra careful.

I agree and I am careful of *every municipal plate* in NJ...But, let's
talk about the grand scheme of things in NJ.

#1 No one is above the law
#2 The law is NOT applied evenly and equally
#3 Pick your fights
#4 There is more than 10 ways to skin a cat
#5 There is a reason why *The Sopranos* show is filmed in NJ

Cory...why would you want to sign a complaint and possibly go head to
head with in cop in a NJ Municipal court? Before the ink is dry, you
will be run thru DMV and all the other databases that the police have
access to. They will know the color of your underwear as you stand
before the judge.

Why not write a well documented letter from a concerned citizen (Cory
Dunkle) to the mayor, who writes this guy's check? Someone in the chain
of command will *talk to him* and tell him to knock it off and be more
careful of how he drives. Isn't that what this is all about?
Peter from NJ

It DRIVES me crazy 2 wrote:
> > Cory Dunkle wrote:
> of course I don't expect anything to be done about
> > this
> > > "officers" reckless behavior, but at least I'll feel better for
> > reporting it
> > > and having it on paper, assuming the pigs don't shred it and
> pretend
> > like
> > > nothing ever happened.
> > >
> > > Cory
>
> Furious George wrote:
> > Thanks for the heads up. The next time I see NJ municipal plate
> > MG40715, I'll know to be extra careful.
>
> I agree and I am careful of *every municipal plate* in NJ...But,
let's
> talk about the grand scheme of things in NJ.
>
> #1 No one is above the law
> #2 The law is NOT applied evenly and equally
> #3 Pick your fights
> #4 There is more than 10 ways to skin a cat
> #5 There is a reason why *The Sopranos* show is filmed in NJ
>
> Cory...why would you want to sign a complaint and possibly go head to
> head with in cop in a NJ Municipal court? Before the ink is dry, you
> will be run thru DMV and all the other databases that the police have
> access to. They will know the color of your underwear as you stand
> before the judge.

And after they get through with you, the color will be brown regardless
of the color it was when you put them on.

>
> Why not write a well documented letter from a concerned citizen (Cory
> Dunkle) to the mayor, who writes this guy's check? Someone in the
chain
> of command will *talk to him* and tell him to knock it off and be
more
> careful of how he drives. Isn't that what this is all about?
> Peter from NJ

OK Smart Guy, how's that any different. The mayor forwards your letter
to the cops. Then before you know it, they pick you up for Driving
While White (DWW). It's just a vast conspiracy to keep the white man
down.

It DRIVES me crazy 2 wrote:
> > Cory Dunkle wrote:
> of course I don't expect anything to be done about
> > this
> > > "officers" reckless behavior, but at least I'll feel better for
> > reporting it
> > > and having it on paper, assuming the pigs don't shred it and
> pretend
> > like
> > > nothing ever happened.
> > >
> > > Cory
>
> Furious George wrote:
> > Thanks for the heads up. The next time I see NJ municipal plate
> > MG40715, I'll know to be extra careful.
>
> I agree and I am careful of *every municipal plate* in NJ...But,
let's
> talk about the grand scheme of things in NJ.
>
> #1 No one is above the law
> #2 The law is NOT applied evenly and equally
> #3 Pick your fights
> #4 There is more than 10 ways to skin a cat
> #5 There is a reason why *The Sopranos* show is filmed in NJ
>
> Cory...why would you want to sign a complaint and possibly go head to
> head with in cop in a NJ Municipal court? Before the ink is dry, you
> will be run thru DMV and all the other databases that the police have
> access to. They will know the color of your underwear as you stand
> before the judge.

And after they get through with you, the color will be brown regardless
of the color it was when you put them on.

>
> Why not write a well documented letter from a concerned citizen (Cory
> Dunkle) to the mayor, who writes this guy's check? Someone in the
chain
> of command will *talk to him* and tell him to knock it off and be
more
> careful of how he drives. Isn't that what this is all about?
> Peter from NJ

OK Smart Guy, how's that any different. The mayor forwards your letter
to the cops. Then before you know it, they pick you up for Driving
While White (DWW). It's just a vast conspiracy to keep the white man
down.

In article >,
Scott en Aztlán <newsgroup> wrote:
>On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 01:36:55 -0500, "Cory Dunkle" >
>wrote:
>
>>I wrote down his license plate number, NJ municipal plate MG40715. I believe
>>the car was a Haddon Township police car. I plan to go to the police station
>>tomorrow, if they are open that is, and do whatever is necessary to make a
>>written complaint. of course I don't expect anything to be done about this
>>"officers" reckless behavior, but at least I'll feel better for reporting it
>
>If you think you have problems with the local constabulary now, just
>wait until you become known to them as a troublemaker.
>
>You're on your way to becoming the next Rodney King...

Hey, at least he'll be rich. If a videotape surfaces, anyway.

In article >,
Scott en Aztlán <newsgroup> wrote:
>On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 01:36:55 -0500, "Cory Dunkle" >
>wrote:
>
>>I wrote down his license plate number, NJ municipal plate MG40715. I believe
>>the car was a Haddon Township police car. I plan to go to the police station
>>tomorrow, if they are open that is, and do whatever is necessary to make a
>>written complaint. of course I don't expect anything to be done about this
>>"officers" reckless behavior, but at least I'll feel better for reporting it
>
>If you think you have problems with the local constabulary now, just
>wait until you become known to them as a troublemaker.
>
>You're on your way to becoming the next Rodney King...

Hey, at least he'll be rich. If a videotape surfaces, anyway.

I went in to the police station today. Seemed to stir up some commotion when
I talked to the woman behind the glass. She told me to wait and the
Leutenant would come talk to me shortly. Then a cop walked out adn asked if
I was being helped, I said yes, I was waiting for the Leutenant who was
going to speak to me. The cop asked waht it was about so I politely told him
what I saw. He got very defensive and asked how I knew he didn't go out on a
call and it was cancelled. I explained that the cop waited at the next red
light, and that no matter which way you slice it running a red light and
doing twice the speed limit in a residential zone is reckless. He didn't
like that and told me no it was not reckless or unsafe, then walked away.

A minute or two Later the Leutenant came out adn brought me to his office. I
explained what I saw and gave him the license plate number, time, and
location. He seemed understanding, but again asked how I knew he wasn't on a
call that was cancelled. So I explained to him it was reckless and unsafe to
be running red light and doing those speeds in a residetial zone without at
least his lights on, particularly since there were familys out and about
walking through town. What if someone walked out to cross the street, or a
child? A car doing 50 MPH will come up on a pedestrian real quick, and if
there are no lights or siren to warn those ahead it is not very visible and
not always easy to tell the car is doing twice the speed cars typically do
on such a street.

He seemed to understand, and asked what I wanted done about it. I told him I
didn't want to make a big deal over it or anything, just that I would like
it if he would talk to the officer in question about the incident and try to
not have such things happen. Basically I just don't want to see that kind of
reckless driving, especially when there are children around and the roads
are wet like the other night. We left it at that and he said he'd find out
who it was and talk to him.

I also mentioned a problem we've been having at our house with teens
drinking on the corner, making noise, and throwing their trash all over the
place. it's ridiculous. Personally I don't care if they drink beer and BS
around back there, just don't be too loud after dark and more importantly
don't throw your trash all over the ground. That's not what I want to wake
up to in the morning and look out the window and see all that trash and beer
cans strewn all over.

In any case, I hope something is done about the reckless driving, it's
relaly an issue that needs to be addressed. Whenever a police officer is
breaking the law his lights and possibly siren should be on. There are
exceptions, but they are few and far between.

Cory


"Cory Dunkle" > wrote in message
...
> I just got back from taking my girlfriend home. On the way I observed a
> police car in front of me. I pulled up behind him at a red light. The
> protected left turned green adn he gunned it forward into the
intersection,
> then stopped and waited. Then he proceeded to run the red light and take
off
> rather quickly down the residential/small business street posted at 25
MPH.
> I proceeded once the light had turned green, several seocnds later. The
cop
> must have been doing at least upwards of 40 MPH, probably more like 50 MPH
> as it seems he got to the next light as I was about halfway between the
> previous light and the next light. Then when he approached the red light
> with a single car waiting at the light he stopped and waited behind the
> other car. Once the light turned green he proceeded at a more appropriate
> speed and then turned around a little ways down that street. All this was
> without his light bar on or any siren or horn whatsoever. Through town
where
> he was doing 40-50 MPH in the 25 MPH zone there were people walking
around,
> several with small children.
>
> I wrote down his license plate number, NJ municipal plate MG40715. I
believe
> the car was a Haddon Township police car. I plan to go to the police
station
> tomorrow, if they are open that is, and do whatever is necessary to make a
> written complaint. of course I don't expect anything to be done about this
> "officers" reckless behavior, but at least I'll feel better for reporting
it
> and having it on paper, assuming the pigs don't shred it and pretend like
> nothing ever happened.
>
> Cory

I went in to the police station today. Seemed to stir up some commotion when
I talked to the woman behind the glass. She told me to wait and the
Leutenant would come talk to me shortly. Then a cop walked out adn asked if
I was being helped, I said yes, I was waiting for the Leutenant who was
going to speak to me. The cop asked waht it was about so I politely told him
what I saw. He got very defensive and asked how I knew he didn't go out on a
call and it was cancelled. I explained that the cop waited at the next red
light, and that no matter which way you slice it running a red light and
doing twice the speed limit in a residential zone is reckless. He didn't
like that and told me no it was not reckless or unsafe, then walked away.

A minute or two Later the Leutenant came out adn brought me to his office. I
explained what I saw and gave him the license plate number, time, and
location. He seemed understanding, but again asked how I knew he wasn't on a
call that was cancelled. So I explained to him it was reckless and unsafe to
be running red light and doing those speeds in a residetial zone without at
least his lights on, particularly since there were familys out and about
walking through town. What if someone walked out to cross the street, or a
child? A car doing 50 MPH will come up on a pedestrian real quick, and if
there are no lights or siren to warn those ahead it is not very visible and
not always easy to tell the car is doing twice the speed cars typically do
on such a street.

He seemed to understand, and asked what I wanted done about it. I told him I
didn't want to make a big deal over it or anything, just that I would like
it if he would talk to the officer in question about the incident and try to
not have such things happen. Basically I just don't want to see that kind of
reckless driving, especially when there are children around and the roads
are wet like the other night. We left it at that and he said he'd find out
who it was and talk to him.

I also mentioned a problem we've been having at our house with teens
drinking on the corner, making noise, and throwing their trash all over the
place. it's ridiculous. Personally I don't care if they drink beer and BS
around back there, just don't be too loud after dark and more importantly
don't throw your trash all over the ground. That's not what I want to wake
up to in the morning and look out the window and see all that trash and beer
cans strewn all over.

In any case, I hope something is done about the reckless driving, it's
relaly an issue that needs to be addressed. Whenever a police officer is
breaking the law his lights and possibly siren should be on. There are
exceptions, but they are few and far between.

Cory


"Cory Dunkle" > wrote in message
...
> I just got back from taking my girlfriend home. On the way I observed a
> police car in front of me. I pulled up behind him at a red light. The
> protected left turned green adn he gunned it forward into the
intersection,
> then stopped and waited. Then he proceeded to run the red light and take
off
> rather quickly down the residential/small business street posted at 25
MPH.
> I proceeded once the light had turned green, several seocnds later. The
cop
> must have been doing at least upwards of 40 MPH, probably more like 50 MPH
> as it seems he got to the next light as I was about halfway between the
> previous light and the next light. Then when he approached the red light
> with a single car waiting at the light he stopped and waited behind the
> other car. Once the light turned green he proceeded at a more appropriate
> speed and then turned around a little ways down that street. All this was
> without his light bar on or any siren or horn whatsoever. Through town
where
> he was doing 40-50 MPH in the 25 MPH zone there were people walking
around,
> several with small children.
>
> I wrote down his license plate number, NJ municipal plate MG40715. I
believe
> the car was a Haddon Township police car. I plan to go to the police
station
> tomorrow, if they are open that is, and do whatever is necessary to make a
> written complaint. of course I don't expect anything to be done about this
> "officers" reckless behavior, but at least I'll feel better for reporting
it
> and having it on paper, assuming the pigs don't shred it and pretend like
> nothing ever happened.
>
> Cory

Cory Dunkle wrote:

> I went in to the police station today. Seemed to stir up some commotion when
> I talked to the woman behind the glass. She told me to wait and the
> Leutenant would come talk to me shortly. Then a cop walked out adn asked if
> I was being helped, I said yes, I was waiting for the Leutenant who was
> going to speak to me. The cop asked waht it was about so I politely told him
> what I saw. He got very defensive and asked how I knew he didn't go out on a
> call and it was cancelled. I explained that the cop waited at the next red
> light, and that no matter which way you slice it running a red light and
> doing twice the speed limit in a residential zone is reckless. He didn't
> like that and told me no it was not reckless or unsafe, then walked away.

HAHAHAHAHA! Jaybird, you got a brother in NJ?

>
> A minute or two Later the Leutenant came out adn brought me to his office. I
> explained what I saw and gave him the license plate number, time, and
> location. He seemed understanding, but again asked how I knew he wasn't on a
> call that was cancelled. So I explained to him it was reckless and unsafe to
> be running red light and doing those speeds in a residetial zone without at
> least his lights on, particularly since there were familys out and about
> walking through town. What if someone walked out to cross the street, or a
> child? A car doing 50 MPH will come up on a pedestrian real quick, and if
> there are no lights or siren to warn those ahead it is not very visible and
> not always easy to tell the car is doing twice the speed cars typically do
> on such a street.
>
> He seemed to understand, and asked what I wanted done about it. I told him I
> didn't want to make a big deal over it or anything, just that I would like
> it if he would talk to the officer in question about the incident and try to
> not have such things happen. Basically I just don't want to see that kind of
> reckless driving, especially when there are children around and the roads
> are wet like the other night. We left it at that and he said he'd find out
> who it was and talk to him.
>
> I also mentioned a problem we've been having at our house with teens
> drinking on the corner, making noise, and throwing their trash all over the
> place. it's ridiculous. Personally I don't care if they drink beer and BS
> around back there, just don't be too loud after dark and more importantly
> don't throw your trash all over the ground. That's not what I want to wake
> up to in the morning and look out the window and see all that trash and beer
> cans strewn all over.
>
> In any case, I hope something is done about the reckless driving, it's
> relaly an issue that needs to be addressed. Whenever a police officer is
> breaking the law his lights and possibly siren should be on. There are
> exceptions, but they are few and far between.
>
> Cory

Sounds like a reasonable request to make of the PD. I wish more people
would do that whenever they have the opportunity to get license numbers etc.

I you really see a pattern of this, maybe after your second or third
complaint you should start writing letters elsewhere as another poster
suggested.

nate

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Cory Dunkle wrote:

> I went in to the police station today. Seemed to stir up some commotion when
> I talked to the woman behind the glass. She told me to wait and the
> Leutenant would come talk to me shortly. Then a cop walked out adn asked if
> I was being helped, I said yes, I was waiting for the Leutenant who was
> going to speak to me. The cop asked waht it was about so I politely told him
> what I saw. He got very defensive and asked how I knew he didn't go out on a
> call and it was cancelled. I explained that the cop waited at the next red
> light, and that no matter which way you slice it running a red light and
> doing twice the speed limit in a residential zone is reckless. He didn't
> like that and told me no it was not reckless or unsafe, then walked away.

HAHAHAHAHA! Jaybird, you got a brother in NJ?

>
> A minute or two Later the Leutenant came out adn brought me to his office. I
> explained what I saw and gave him the license plate number, time, and
> location. He seemed understanding, but again asked how I knew he wasn't on a
> call that was cancelled. So I explained to him it was reckless and unsafe to
> be running red light and doing those speeds in a residetial zone without at
> least his lights on, particularly since there were familys out and about
> walking through town. What if someone walked out to cross the street, or a
> child? A car doing 50 MPH will come up on a pedestrian real quick, and if
> there are no lights or siren to warn those ahead it is not very visible and
> not always easy to tell the car is doing twice the speed cars typically do
> on such a street.
>
> He seemed to understand, and asked what I wanted done about it. I told him I
> didn't want to make a big deal over it or anything, just that I would like
> it if he would talk to the officer in question about the incident and try to
> not have such things happen. Basically I just don't want to see that kind of
> reckless driving, especially when there are children around and the roads
> are wet like the other night. We left it at that and he said he'd find out
> who it was and talk to him.
>
> I also mentioned a problem we've been having at our house with teens
> drinking on the corner, making noise, and throwing their trash all over the
> place. it's ridiculous. Personally I don't care if they drink beer and BS
> around back there, just don't be too loud after dark and more importantly
> don't throw your trash all over the ground. That's not what I want to wake
> up to in the morning and look out the window and see all that trash and beer
> cans strewn all over.
>
> In any case, I hope something is done about the reckless driving, it's
> relaly an issue that needs to be addressed. Whenever a police officer is
> breaking the law his lights and possibly siren should be on. There are
> exceptions, but they are few and far between.
>
> Cory

Sounds like a reasonable request to make of the PD. I wish more people
would do that whenever they have the opportunity to get license numbers etc.

I you really see a pattern of this, maybe after your second or third
complaint you should start writing letters elsewhere as another poster
suggested.

nate

--
replace "fly" with "com" to reply.
http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel

On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 13:48:31 -0500, Cory Dunkle > wrote:
>I went in to the police station today. Seemed to stir up some commotion when
>I talked to the woman behind the glass. She told me to wait and the
>Leutenant would come talk to me shortly. Then a cop walked out adn asked if
>I was being helped, I said yes, I was waiting for the Leutenant who was
>going to speak to me. The cop asked waht it was about so I politely told him
>what I saw. He got very defensive and asked how I knew he didn't go out on a
>call and it was cancelled. I explained that the cop waited at the next red
>light, and that no matter which way you slice it running a red light and
>doing twice the speed limit in a residential zone is reckless. He didn't
>like that and told me no it was not reckless or unsafe, then walked away.

....
>In any case, I hope something is done about the reckless driving, it's
>relaly an issue that needs to be addressed. Whenever a police officer is
>breaking the law his lights and possibly siren should be on. There are
>exceptions, but they are few and far between.

Nothing will ever happen. Cops don't operate within the law.