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  #11  
Old November 26th 04, 10:14 PM
Geoff
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"Arthur" > wrote in message
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> That's progressive. Install a bigger fuel guzzler. Obviously, these
> Germans don't take hints from each other. Porsche is making a deal to use
> Toyota hybrid engine technology on their SUV's. Go figure.
> Arthur
>


What leads you to believe that the larger displacement engine will be a
'bigger fuel guzzler'?

Please show your research.

--Geoff


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  #12  
Old November 26th 04, 11:21 PM
Art
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While in London a few months ago I was in a diesel powered Chrysler minivan
for a 90 minute drive to the airport. Would have never known it was a
diesel except the driver told me so.


"Dori A Schmetterling" > wrote in message
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> ...and Chrysler...
>
> http://www.chrysler.co.uk/chrysler/
>
> In Europe you could not sell an MPV without a diesel engine.
>
> Whilst the Crossfire is, so far, petrol only, the Mercedes CLK is already
> available with a diesel engine
>
> http://www.mercedes-benz.co.uk/pc/index.html
>
>
> The 300C and 300C Touring are petrol only, so far
> http://www.chrysler.de/content/chrys...b/motoren.html
>
> but I wouldn't be surprised that if it sells reasonably well a diesel
> became available.
>
> DAS
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> "KokomoKid" > wrote in message
> nk.net...
> [...]
>> Everyone
>> in Europe is selling diesel cars, and there is a mix of belts and chains
>> among the Peugeot, Ford, Opel, Renault, Fiat, and others.

>
>



  #13  
Old November 26th 04, 11:21 PM
Art
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While in London a few months ago I was in a diesel powered Chrysler minivan
for a 90 minute drive to the airport. Would have never known it was a
diesel except the driver told me so.


"Dori A Schmetterling" > wrote in message
...
> ...and Chrysler...
>
> http://www.chrysler.co.uk/chrysler/
>
> In Europe you could not sell an MPV without a diesel engine.
>
> Whilst the Crossfire is, so far, petrol only, the Mercedes CLK is already
> available with a diesel engine
>
> http://www.mercedes-benz.co.uk/pc/index.html
>
>
> The 300C and 300C Touring are petrol only, so far
> http://www.chrysler.de/content/chrys...b/motoren.html
>
> but I wouldn't be surprised that if it sells reasonably well a diesel
> became available.
>
> DAS
> --
> For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
> ---
>
> "KokomoKid" > wrote in message
> nk.net...
> [...]
>> Everyone
>> in Europe is selling diesel cars, and there is a mix of belts and chains
>> among the Peugeot, Ford, Opel, Renault, Fiat, and others.

>
>



  #14  
Old November 27th 04, 03:13 PM
Dori A Schmetterling
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Precisely so. What you experienced is a modern engine running on low-sulfur
fuel. Even in traditionally dieselphobic Britain diesel cars are taking an
increasing market share.

My own cars are still petrol but my hire cars in Europe are increasingly
diesel. Last summer (in Italy) I had a 1.9 l turbodiesel (well, they're
just about all turbos now) Alfa Romeo 147 for two weeks. In short: great.
I also think it's the most beautiful small car, though I would probably
still hesitate in buying one as the reliability and rust-resistance may
still not be up scratch despite great strides having been made in recent
years.

http://www.alfaromeo.com/cgi-bin/pbr...O_COM/home.jsp

Constantly changing pic in top left.

DAS
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"Art" > wrote in message
k.net...
> While in London a few months ago I was in a diesel powered Chrysler
> minivan for a 90 minute drive to the airport. Would have never known it
> was a diesel except the driver told me so.

[...]


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Old November 27th 04, 03:13 PM
Dori A Schmetterling
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Precisely so. What you experienced is a modern engine running on low-sulfur
fuel. Even in traditionally dieselphobic Britain diesel cars are taking an
increasing market share.

My own cars are still petrol but my hire cars in Europe are increasingly
diesel. Last summer (in Italy) I had a 1.9 l turbodiesel (well, they're
just about all turbos now) Alfa Romeo 147 for two weeks. In short: great.
I also think it's the most beautiful small car, though I would probably
still hesitate in buying one as the reliability and rust-resistance may
still not be up scratch despite great strides having been made in recent
years.

http://www.alfaromeo.com/cgi-bin/pbr...O_COM/home.jsp

Constantly changing pic in top left.

DAS
--
For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
---

"Art" > wrote in message
k.net...
> While in London a few months ago I was in a diesel powered Chrysler
> minivan for a 90 minute drive to the airport. Would have never known it
> was a diesel except the driver told me so.

[...]


  #16  
Old November 27th 04, 03:26 PM
Matt Whiting
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Dori A Schmetterling wrote:

> Precisely so. What you experienced is a modern engine running on low-sulfur
> fuel. Even in traditionally dieselphobic Britain diesel cars are taking an
> increasing market share.
>
> My own cars are still petrol but my hire cars in Europe are increasingly
> diesel. Last summer (in Italy) I had a 1.9 l turbodiesel (well, they're
> just about all turbos now) Alfa Romeo 147 for two weeks. In short: great.
> I also think it's the most beautiful small car, though I would probably
> still hesitate in buying one as the reliability and rust-resistance may
> still not be up scratch despite great strides having been made in recent
> years.
>
> http://www.alfaromeo.com/cgi-bin/pbr...O_COM/home.jsp


Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder! :-)


Matt

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Old November 27th 04, 03:26 PM
Matt Whiting
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Dori A Schmetterling wrote:

> Precisely so. What you experienced is a modern engine running on low-sulfur
> fuel. Even in traditionally dieselphobic Britain diesel cars are taking an
> increasing market share.
>
> My own cars are still petrol but my hire cars in Europe are increasingly
> diesel. Last summer (in Italy) I had a 1.9 l turbodiesel (well, they're
> just about all turbos now) Alfa Romeo 147 for two weeks. In short: great.
> I also think it's the most beautiful small car, though I would probably
> still hesitate in buying one as the reliability and rust-resistance may
> still not be up scratch despite great strides having been made in recent
> years.
>
> http://www.alfaromeo.com/cgi-bin/pbr...O_COM/home.jsp


Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder! :-)


Matt

  #18  
Old November 27th 04, 11:15 PM
Art
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Looks very nice plus roomy for a small car with style. I like it too. At
least the pictures.


"Matt Whiting" > wrote in message
...
> Dori A Schmetterling wrote:
>
>> Precisely so. What you experienced is a modern engine running on
>> low-sulfur fuel. Even in traditionally dieselphobic Britain diesel cars
>> are taking an increasing market share.
>>
>> My own cars are still petrol but my hire cars in Europe are increasingly
>> diesel. Last summer (in Italy) I had a 1.9 l turbodiesel (well, they're
>> just about all turbos now) Alfa Romeo 147 for two weeks. In short:
>> great. I also think it's the most beautiful small car, though I would
>> probably still hesitate in buying one as the reliability and
>> rust-resistance may still not be up scratch despite great strides having
>> been made in recent years.
>>
>> http://www.alfaromeo.com/cgi-bin/pbr...O_COM/home.jsp

>
> Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder! :-)
>
>
> Matt
>



  #19  
Old November 27th 04, 11:15 PM
Art
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Looks very nice plus roomy for a small car with style. I like it too. At
least the pictures.


"Matt Whiting" > wrote in message
...
> Dori A Schmetterling wrote:
>
>> Precisely so. What you experienced is a modern engine running on
>> low-sulfur fuel. Even in traditionally dieselphobic Britain diesel cars
>> are taking an increasing market share.
>>
>> My own cars are still petrol but my hire cars in Europe are increasingly
>> diesel. Last summer (in Italy) I had a 1.9 l turbodiesel (well, they're
>> just about all turbos now) Alfa Romeo 147 for two weeks. In short:
>> great. I also think it's the most beautiful small car, though I would
>> probably still hesitate in buying one as the reliability and
>> rust-resistance may still not be up scratch despite great strides having
>> been made in recent years.
>>
>> http://www.alfaromeo.com/cgi-bin/pbr...O_COM/home.jsp

>
> Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder! :-)
>
>
> Matt
>



  #20  
Old November 28th 04, 02:29 AM
Matt Whiting
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Art wrote:

> Looks very nice plus roomy for a small car with style. I like it too. At
> least the pictures.


I find it makes the 300C look better to me!

Matt

 




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