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  #211  
Old December 23rd 04, 02:13 AM
Jim Yanik
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Dave Head > wrote in
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> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:13:20 GMT,
> (Brent P) wrote:



>
>>You simply can't have it both ways. Either there is enough traffic for
>>your justifications or there isn't and you have none.

>
> There's enough wrong with driving in the right lane, safety wise, to
> justify it to myself.


You justify it to yourself regardless of any other input,just like any
other LLB.


> Since It's my blood that will end up trickling
> into the ditch if something goes to hell, that's all the justification
> I require.




Yes,"I'm right,the world's all wrong."

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  #212  
Old December 23rd 04, 05:30 AM
Bernard Farquart
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"Jim Yanik" .> wrote in message
.. .
> Dave Head > wrote in
> :
>
>> Since It's my blood that will end up trickling
>> into the ditch if something goes to hell, that's all the justification
>> I require.

>
>
>
> Yes,"I'm right,the world's all wrong."
>


There is a series of letters, I can't quite
remember what they are, or who came up with
them first, but I feel they would apply here.



Bernard


  #213  
Old December 23rd 04, 05:30 AM
Bernard Farquart
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"Jim Yanik" .> wrote in message
.. .
> Dave Head > wrote in
> :
>
>> Since It's my blood that will end up trickling
>> into the ditch if something goes to hell, that's all the justification
>> I require.

>
>
>
> Yes,"I'm right,the world's all wrong."
>


There is a series of letters, I can't quite
remember what they are, or who came up with
them first, but I feel they would apply here.



Bernard


  #214  
Old December 23rd 04, 07:08 AM
Brent P
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In article >, Dave Head wrote:

> If you think conditions are the same all over, then... yeah, it might seem that
> way.


I am just watching how you are trying to wiggle out of the most obvious
flaws in your pro-LLBing nonsense.

> Take this fact: I don't cause backups - and work backwards from there. Sure I
> get some extra speed going on actual interstates. I _try_ to keep it at +7,
> but sometimes that ain't enough. Its definitiely not enough it the left lane
> of I-95 for instance. Yeah, I'm considerably over +7 on various occasions when
> driving that road. Hell, I _might_ even _not_ be in the left lane, depending
> on how I'm feeling about things, how many yahoos want to climb up my backside,
> etc. If I am not feeling good about being _way_ over the limit, I just might
> drive the center lane, and get held up by someone else there. It just all
> depends on lotsa things - weather, cop density, time of day and dark/light,
> etc.


I thought it was all about *YOUR* safety and ease of travel. That's why
you cruise in the left lane right? I am glad people are making you
uncomfortable in the left lane to encourage you to practice KRETP.

>>> I'm generally faster than everyone else. Around here requires about 7 to do
>>> it. Elsewhere might require more than that.


>>Then you should be running into LLBs often. Often getting stuck in the
>>clumps of traffic they create or coming up behind the LLBs themselves trying
>>to find a way around them on the right. You should then dislike LLBs as
>>much as any one else in this group or more.


> Well, I hate _real_ LLB's, the ones that make the road impassible - and I also
> hate their enablers, that allow them to sit on their bumper or drive right
> beside or a little ahead. I'm never one of these, either, unless there's
> nothing I can do about it (someone blocking my way to go faster, people
> climbing up my back even in the right lane, etc.)


You hate it so much so you've decided to be a slightly faster LLB. While
you are micropassing that driver doing 5 over in the right lane, the
person behind you doesn't think any better of you than you think of what
you call 'real LLBs' above. You are an LLB. Period. You cruise in the
left lane at a speed you consider 'fast enough'. That's an LLB.

This is why I wish you to encounter drivers just like you, but slower.
Because it is obvious that you don't like being blocked yourself.

The true test of one's driving method on a limited access highway is if
you won't be impeded by someone driving the same way but slower. Your's
fails this test. Mine doesn't.


  #215  
Old December 23rd 04, 07:08 AM
Brent P
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In article >, Dave Head wrote:

> If you think conditions are the same all over, then... yeah, it might seem that
> way.


I am just watching how you are trying to wiggle out of the most obvious
flaws in your pro-LLBing nonsense.

> Take this fact: I don't cause backups - and work backwards from there. Sure I
> get some extra speed going on actual interstates. I _try_ to keep it at +7,
> but sometimes that ain't enough. Its definitiely not enough it the left lane
> of I-95 for instance. Yeah, I'm considerably over +7 on various occasions when
> driving that road. Hell, I _might_ even _not_ be in the left lane, depending
> on how I'm feeling about things, how many yahoos want to climb up my backside,
> etc. If I am not feeling good about being _way_ over the limit, I just might
> drive the center lane, and get held up by someone else there. It just all
> depends on lotsa things - weather, cop density, time of day and dark/light,
> etc.


I thought it was all about *YOUR* safety and ease of travel. That's why
you cruise in the left lane right? I am glad people are making you
uncomfortable in the left lane to encourage you to practice KRETP.

>>> I'm generally faster than everyone else. Around here requires about 7 to do
>>> it. Elsewhere might require more than that.


>>Then you should be running into LLBs often. Often getting stuck in the
>>clumps of traffic they create or coming up behind the LLBs themselves trying
>>to find a way around them on the right. You should then dislike LLBs as
>>much as any one else in this group or more.


> Well, I hate _real_ LLB's, the ones that make the road impassible - and I also
> hate their enablers, that allow them to sit on their bumper or drive right
> beside or a little ahead. I'm never one of these, either, unless there's
> nothing I can do about it (someone blocking my way to go faster, people
> climbing up my back even in the right lane, etc.)


You hate it so much so you've decided to be a slightly faster LLB. While
you are micropassing that driver doing 5 over in the right lane, the
person behind you doesn't think any better of you than you think of what
you call 'real LLBs' above. You are an LLB. Period. You cruise in the
left lane at a speed you consider 'fast enough'. That's an LLB.

This is why I wish you to encounter drivers just like you, but slower.
Because it is obvious that you don't like being blocked yourself.

The true test of one's driving method on a limited access highway is if
you won't be impeded by someone driving the same way but slower. Your's
fails this test. Mine doesn't.


  #216  
Old December 23rd 04, 07:14 AM
Brent P
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In article >, Dave Head wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:13:20 GMT, (Brent P)
> wrote:
>
>>In article >, Dave Head wrote:
>>
>>> I am generally faster than everything else at time other than the drive home.
>>> During the drive home, I can pick up a duck or two.

>>
>>Then your presence in the left lane is blocking other people.

>
> They can _usually_ get around on the right. If they _really_ wanted to get
> around on the left, they'd indicate it someway - horn, light flash, etc. But
> they don't.


Usually can get around... in other words '**** em'. It's their problem to
get around YOU. You see no obligation to minimize impedence on others.
Others have to find their way around you. You're an LLB.

Also, indications these days are now called 'road rage'. I have cut way
down on all indications because of the revenge reactions they inspire.
I normally only use the left turn signal except for extreme LLBs where it
can't be made worse. Nobody be indicated a thing in my LLB experiment
either. They did however struggle to pass on the right.

I often drive considerably faster than you, yet those who drive
considerably faster than me have no trouble getting around me. This has
on many occasions included cops. Cops don't like to be blocked when they
are cruising at 85mph+

>>You simply can't have it both ways. Either there is enough traffic for
>>your justifications or there isn't and you have none.


> There's enough wrong with driving in the right lane, safety wise, to justify it
> to myself. Since It's my blood that will end up trickling into the ditch if
> something goes to hell, that's all the justification I require.


If there is enough traffic for your justifications for LLBing, there is
too much traffic for people to get around you on the right easily.


  #217  
Old December 23rd 04, 07:14 AM
Brent P
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In article >, Dave Head wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:13:20 GMT, (Brent P)
> wrote:
>
>>In article >, Dave Head wrote:
>>
>>> I am generally faster than everything else at time other than the drive home.
>>> During the drive home, I can pick up a duck or two.

>>
>>Then your presence in the left lane is blocking other people.

>
> They can _usually_ get around on the right. If they _really_ wanted to get
> around on the left, they'd indicate it someway - horn, light flash, etc. But
> they don't.


Usually can get around... in other words '**** em'. It's their problem to
get around YOU. You see no obligation to minimize impedence on others.
Others have to find their way around you. You're an LLB.

Also, indications these days are now called 'road rage'. I have cut way
down on all indications because of the revenge reactions they inspire.
I normally only use the left turn signal except for extreme LLBs where it
can't be made worse. Nobody be indicated a thing in my LLB experiment
either. They did however struggle to pass on the right.

I often drive considerably faster than you, yet those who drive
considerably faster than me have no trouble getting around me. This has
on many occasions included cops. Cops don't like to be blocked when they
are cruising at 85mph+

>>You simply can't have it both ways. Either there is enough traffic for
>>your justifications or there isn't and you have none.


> There's enough wrong with driving in the right lane, safety wise, to justify it
> to myself. Since It's my blood that will end up trickling into the ditch if
> something goes to hell, that's all the justification I require.


If there is enough traffic for your justifications for LLBing, there is
too much traffic for people to get around you on the right easily.


  #218  
Old January 3rd 05, 03:59 PM
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223rem wrote:
>
> Dave Head wrote:
>
> >
> > Or the right lane if I'm driving there, or the center lane if I'm driving
> > there...
> >
> > Your definition of blocking fails to be significant because people can still
> > get by.

>
> No. I dont feel safe passing an LLB on the right.
>
> Why? Correctly setting and watching the right side mirror takes
> somewhat more skill and attention than watching the left mirror. And given
> that most LLBs are clueless, oblivious slowpokes I'm not exactly
> full of confidence that they're not about to change lanes
> when I'm passing them.


If they are clueless, oblivious slowpokes, what make you
think they won't change into the left lane while you are
trying to pass them?

Ed
  #219  
Old January 3rd 05, 03:59 PM
C. E. White
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223rem wrote:
>
> Dave Head wrote:
>
> >
> > Or the right lane if I'm driving there, or the center lane if I'm driving
> > there...
> >
> > Your definition of blocking fails to be significant because people can still
> > get by.

>
> No. I dont feel safe passing an LLB on the right.
>
> Why? Correctly setting and watching the right side mirror takes
> somewhat more skill and attention than watching the left mirror. And given
> that most LLBs are clueless, oblivious slowpokes I'm not exactly
> full of confidence that they're not about to change lanes
> when I'm passing them.


If they are clueless, oblivious slowpokes, what make you
think they won't change into the left lane while you are
trying to pass them?

Ed
 




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