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Canada's new Toyota plant
One reason they gave for setting up
(in Quebec, I think) was the illiteracy they found in the American South. Apparently, there is a real problem with things like reading and writing down there. So much so that they've had to do things with symbolism instead of writing. That is pretty bad for a first world country. |
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http://www.cbc.ca/cp/business/050630/b0630102.html
Toyota to build 100,000 vehicles per year in Woodstock, Ont., starting 2008 11:06 PM EDT Jul 09 New President of Toyota Motor Corp. Katsuaki Watanabe said that the automaker plans to build a new plant in Canada. (AP/Shizuo Kambayashi) STEVE ERWIN WOODSTOCK, Ont. (CP) - Ontario workers are well-trained. That simple explanation was cited as a main reason why Toyota turned its back on hundreds of millions of dollars in subsidies offered from several American states in favour of building a second Ontario plant. Industry experts say Ontarians are easier and cheaper to train - helping make it more cost-efficient to train workers when the new Woodstock plant opens in 2008, 40 kilometres away from its skilled workforce in Cambridge. "The level of the workforce in general is so high that the training program you need for people, even for people who have not worked in a Toyota plant before, is minimal compared to what you have to go through in the southeastern United States," said Gerry Fedchun, president of the Automotive Parts Manufacturers' Association, whose members will see increased business with the new plant. Acknowledging it was the "worst-kept secret" throughout Ontario's automotive industry, Toyota confirmed months of speculation Thursday by announcing plans to build a 1,300-worker factory in the southwestern Ontario city. "Welcome to Woodstock - that's something I've been waiting a long time to say," Ray Tanguay, president of Toyota Motor Manufacturing Canada, told hundreds gathered at a high school gymnasium. The plant will produce the RAV-4, dubbed by some as a "mini sport-utility vehicle" that Toyota currently makes only in Japan. It plans to build 100,000 vehicles annually. The factory will cost $800 million to build, with the federal and provincial governments kicking in $125 million of that to help cover research, training and infrastructure costs. Several U.S. states were reportedly prepared to offer more than double that amount of subsidy. But Fedchun said much of that extra money would have been eaten away by higher training costs than are necessary for the Woodstock project. He said Nissan and Honda have encountered difficulties getting new plants up to full production in recent years in Mississippi and Alabama due to an untrained - and often illiterate - workforce. In Alabama, trainers had to use "pictorials" to teach some illiterate workers how to use high-tech plant equipment. "The educational level and the skill level of the people down there is so much lower than it is in Ontario," Fedchun said. In addition to lower training costs, Canadian workers are also $4 to $5 cheaper to employ partly thanks to the taxpayer-funded health-care system in Canada, said federal Industry Minister David Emmerson. "Most people don't think of our health-care system as being a competitive advantage," he said. Tanguay said Toyota's decision on where to build its seventh North American plant was "not only about money." "It's about being in the right place," he said, noting the company can rely on the expertise of experienced Cambridge workers to help get Woodstock up and running. Premier Dalton McGuinty said the money the province and Ottawa are pledging for the project is well-spent. His government has committed $400 million, including the latest Toyota package, to the province's auto sector, which helped finance $5-billion worth of industry projects. "I think that's a great investment that will more than pay for itself in terms of new jobs and new economic returns," McGuinty said. The provincial funds for the auto sector were drawn from a fund set up to attract investments specifically in that industry. McGuinty said no similar industry funds are being planned for other sectors, but added the province wants to attract biotechnology companies - those working on multibillion-dollar advanced medical research. "What we have done for auto we would like to be able to do for biotech," he said. "That's where we're lending some real focus to at the present time." Similarly, Emmerson said Ottawa is looking to help out industries that create "clusters" of jobs around them - such as in aerospace, shipbuilding, telecommunications and forestry - where supply bases build around a large manufacturer. RichA wrote: > One reason they gave for setting up > (in Quebec, I think) was the illiteracy > they found in the American South. Apparently, > there is a real problem with things like reading > and writing down there. So much so that they've > had to do things with symbolism instead of writing. > That is pretty bad for a first world country. > |
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D.K.R. wrote:
> http://www.cbc.ca/cp/business/050630/b0630102.html (snip) Most stupid thing I've ever read. You understand NASA operates out of Hunstville, right? |
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pawn wrote:
> D.K.R. wrote: > >> http://www.cbc.ca/cp/business/050630/b0630102.html > > > (snip) > > Most stupid thing I've ever read. You understand NASA operates out of > Hunstville, right? So you're saying that rocket scientists would go work for Toyota? |
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RichA wrote:
> One reason they gave for setting up > (in Quebec, I think) was the illiteracy > they found in the American South. Apparently, > there is a real problem with things like reading > and writing down there. So much so that they've > had to do things with symbolism instead of writing. > That is pretty bad for a first world country. Thank the NEA. They're more interested in protecting their jobs/salaries than educating the students. Generally speaking, of course. |
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hurc... is that you???
"RichA" > wrote in message ... > One reason they gave for setting up > (in Quebec, I think) was the illiteracy > they found in the American South. Apparently, > there is a real problem with things like reading > and writing down there. So much so that they've > had to do things with symbolism instead of writing. > That is pretty bad for a first world country. > |
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On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 00:51:27 -0500, William Claude Dukenfield <William
Claude > wrote: >On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 05:20:55 GMT, "Jim Warman" > wrote: >>hurc... is that you??? >>"RichA" > wrote in message . .. >>> One reason they gave for setting up >>> (in Quebec, I think) was the illiteracy >>> they found in the American South. Apparently, >>> there is a real problem with things like reading >>> and writing down there. So much so that they've >>> had to do things with symbolism instead of writing. >>> That is pretty bad for a first world country. > >Naw, just another Canadian showing that inferiority complex. > >Next they will accuse the US of Igloo envy. I'd never heard what the Japanese reported in that story. But, just like losers who sit around for years, knowing their jobs will end (for whatever reason) and NEVER seek re-training, just sit around, complaining and getting fat, they get what they deserve. -Rich |
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Ummmm.... how can I say this nicely???? I'm a f*cking Canadian and you sound
like an arrogant *******!!!!! There.... now I feel better.... "William Claude Dukenfield" <William Claude > wrote in message ... > On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 05:20:55 GMT, "Jim Warman" > > wrote: > >hurc... is that you??? > >"RichA" > wrote in message > .. . > >> One reason they gave for setting up > >> (in Quebec, I think) was the illiteracy > >> they found in the American South. Apparently, > >> there is a real problem with things like reading > >> and writing down there. So much so that they've > >> had to do things with symbolism instead of writing. > >> That is pretty bad for a first world country. > > Naw, just another Canadian showing that inferiority complex. > > Next they will accuse the US of Igloo envy. > |
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D.K.R. wrote:
> pawn wrote: >> >> Most stupid thing I've ever read. You understand NASA operates out of >> Hunstville, right? > > So you're saying that rocket scientists would go work for Toyota? No, I'm saying that the idea of not being able to find enough trained workers in any significantly populated area is silly. I've worked on an auto parts plant in Huntsville, the people seemed just like people everywhere. |
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This might get me deported, but I am an American living in the south
and I for one applaud Toyota's decision and totally understand their reasons for locating their plant in Ontario. The south IS a backwards place. I taught high school here for three years and let me tell you, it was enough to make Mother Teresa lose her faith. You have never seen so many people who not only are expecting to, but actually WANTING to become nothing at all. They are sorry, pathetic losers and, incredibly, they are just fine with it! By contrast, about a year ago I visited Canada for the first time and was immediately struck by how clean, friendly, and safe it was. Everyone I met was intelligent and very accomodating. Don't get me wrong, I am proud of my American roots, but in no way does that mean that I think America in general, and the south in particular, has nearly enough of its act together. The south is a cesspool of ignorance, laziness, narrow-mindedness, futility, and complacence. My family and I are in the process of saving our funds for a BIG move, and I can honestly say that I can't wait to get out of here. |
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