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2008 M3
New (well, at least official) info on the new M3 on www.bmwusa.com. Fairly
detailed brochure available in PDF format. Just wish there were more pics... -- Charles C. Shyu http://home.earthlink.net/~shyuc/shyu.html |
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2008 M3
"Charles C. Shyu" wrote > Just wish there were more > pics... Here are a few... http://www.v10.pl/BMW,M3,Coupe,2007,galeria,66.html Pete |
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Charles C. Shyu wrote:
>New (well, at least official) info on the new M3 on www.bmwusa.com. Fairly >detailed brochure available in PDF format. Just wish there were more >pics... Quite a machine. Until you consider the cost. And then you might think, "and this beats a Corvette how, exactly"?\ I mean, individual throttle butterflies are cool and all... |
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2008 M3
"dizzy" > wrote in message ... > Charles C. Shyu wrote: > >>New (well, at least official) info on the new M3 on www.bmwusa.com. >>Fairly >>detailed brochure available in PDF format. Just wish there were more >>pics... > > Quite a machine. Until you consider the cost. And then you might > think, "and this beats a Corvette how, exactly"?\ > > I mean, individual throttle butterflies are cool and all... The difference between a scalpel and an axe? Don't get me wrong, the Corvette offers incredible performance at a remarkably low price and (theoretically) it can be serviced at any Chevy dealer. OTOH, the interior sucks (albeit there's a $24K solution) and it has various other limitations. R / John |
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John Carrier wrote:
>"dizzy" > wrote in message >> >> Charles C. Shyu wrote: >> >>>New (well, at least official) info on the new M3 on www.bmwusa.com. >>>Fairly >>>detailed brochure available in PDF format. Just wish there were more >>>pics... >> >> Quite a machine. Until you consider the cost. And then you might >> think, "and this beats a Corvette how, exactly"?\ >> >> I mean, individual throttle butterflies are cool and all... > >The difference between a scalpel and an axe? Don't get me wrong, the >Corvette offers incredible performance at a remarkably low price and >(theoretically) it can be serviced at any Chevy dealer. OTOH, the interior >sucks (albeit there's a $24K solution) and it has various other limitations. I suppose. I am glad to see reports that the new M3 will be less hard-core, more gand-tourer, than the outgoing model. I don't see the point of such hard-riding cars for the street. IMO the extra-hard suspension should be an option. |
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2008 M3
"dizzy" > wrote in message ... > John Carrier wrote: > > >"dizzy" > wrote in message > >> > >> Charles C. Shyu wrote: > >> > >>>New (well, at least official) info on the new M3 on www.bmwusa.com. > >>>Fairly > >>>detailed brochure available in PDF format. Just wish there were more > >>>pics... > >> > >> Quite a machine. Until you consider the cost. And then you might > >> think, "and this beats a Corvette how, exactly"?\ > >> > >> I mean, individual throttle butterflies are cool and all... > > > >The difference between a scalpel and an axe? Don't get me wrong, the > >Corvette offers incredible performance at a remarkably low price and > >(theoretically) it can be serviced at any Chevy dealer. OTOH, the interior > >sucks (albeit there's a $24K solution) and it has various other limitations. > > I suppose. I am glad to see reports that the new M3 will be less > hard-core, more gand-tourer, than the outgoing model. I don't see the > point of such hard-riding cars for the street. IMO the extra-hard > suspension should be an option. > LOL! |
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On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 16:00:18 GMT, dizzy > wrote:
>John Carrier wrote: > >>"dizzy" > wrote in message >>> >>> Charles C. Shyu wrote: >>> >>>>New (well, at least official) info on the new M3 on www.bmwusa.com. >>>>Fairly >>>>detailed brochure available in PDF format. Just wish there were more >>>>pics... >>> >>> Quite a machine. Until you consider the cost. And then you might >>> think, "and this beats a Corvette how, exactly"?\ >>> >>> I mean, individual throttle butterflies are cool and all... >> >>The difference between a scalpel and an axe? Don't get me wrong, the >>Corvette offers incredible performance at a remarkably low price and >>(theoretically) it can be serviced at any Chevy dealer. OTOH, the interior >>sucks (albeit there's a $24K solution) and it has various other limitations. > >I suppose. I am glad to see reports that the new M3 will be less >hard-core, more gand-tourer, than the outgoing model. I don't see the >point of such hard-riding cars for the street. IMO the extra-hard >suspension should be an option. You mention HARD SUSPENSION. I was in the market to replace my E38 740i and looked at several E65 730d cars before buying the 6 month old example I have however, I digress. One of the "wonderful" models was a 730d SPORT???? It had the option of 20" wheels amongst others that made it very desirable until I drove it. The suspension was rock hard - thump thump thump on every little road imperfection and coupled with the 20" wheels and very low profile tyres (tires) the ride was terrible. the wheels made the car "white line" (that is wandering about being guided by the raised white line and reflectors (cats eyes). There was no way I could have lived with such a monster. Maybe on a NEW smooth asphalt surface Ok but on bumpy roads with pot holes and white lines and your concrete interstates Wow.............. Drive me mad..... Another I tried was a stock sedan fitted with the optional adaptive suspension. Hard and soft settings but this was also fitted with the 20" wheels. the hard setting wasn't as hard as the sport as the car still had stock springs and only the damper setting were being changed but it was still "nervy" on the white lines and bumpy on the normal road surface. On the "comfort" settings it still wandered about due to the 20" wheels but the ride was like a boat and I actually felt sick and so did my wife after about 20 minuets driving. We decided to give that one a miss too. I bought a 730d with stock suspension and I can honestly say that in everyday driving and fast country driving it runs circles around the so called "Sport" version for ride and comfort. On a race track things might be different but in the real world ------- |
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2008 M3
On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 06:17:24 GMT, dizzy > wrote:
>Charles C. Shyu wrote: > >>New (well, at least official) info on the new M3 on www.bmwusa.com. Fairly >>detailed brochure available in PDF format. Just wish there were more >>pics... > >Quite a machine. Until you consider the cost. And then you might >think, "and this beats a Corvette how, exactly"?\ > >I mean, individual throttle butterflies are cool and all... To me, the more relevant question is "It beats the previous M3 how?" Once you dip under the 5secs 0-60 line, costs rise exponentially for every tenth second, which is less and less practical for a street car (in the US, you can ignore the top speed altogether unless you like the prison social scene). If I had an E46 M3, I don't think the additional tenths shaved would warrant the expense. epbrown -- How can you know where I'm at if you haven't been where I been? Can you see where I'm coming from? "How I Could Just Kill A Man" Cypress Hill |
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2008 M3
On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 22:57:45 GMT, E Brown > wrote:
> To me, the more relevant question is "It beats the previous M3 >how?" Once you dip under the 5secs 0-60 line, costs rise exponentially >for every tenth second, which is less and less practical for a street >car For sure, but what you may be missing is the cost effectiveness of the crotch-rocket motorcycle once you get into the, say, sub 4 second 0 to 60 zone. The adrenaline rush of a modern crotch rocket is in a different league altogether. It leaves you despairing of *any* car's performance. Thank ghod that I'm old enough (too old?) and wise enough to stay away from more than a quick blast on someone else's modern bike. Damn, I nearly killed myself one time on a Triumph Speed Twin in 1960-something. -- Dan. |
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E Brown wrote:
>On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 06:17:24 GMT, dizzy > wrote: >> >>Quite a machine. Until you consider the cost. And then you might >>think, "and this beats a Corvette how, exactly"?\ >> >>I mean, individual throttle butterflies are cool and all... > > To me, the more relevant question is "It beats the previous M3 >how?" Once you dip under the 5secs 0-60 line, costs rise exponentially >for every tenth second, which is less and less practical for a street >car (in the US, you can ignore the top speed altogether unless you >like the prison social scene). If I had an E46 M3, I don't think the >additional tenths shaved would warrant the expense. Well, it's no secret that they felt they needed the displacement to keep-up with the competition... Kind of sad to see them go-away from the I6 in their top cars. OTOH, V8's can sound really nice... |
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