Road and Track comparo- Hilarious

Road and Track did a comparison of the 545iA, Infinity M45 "sport" and
Lexus GS430. You can read it he

<http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=31&article_id=2221>

I am not a huge fan of the new fivers, and I'd prefer a 6 cylinder with
a manual gearbox myself, but I find it rather amusing that when you
peruse the "ratings" table on the final page of the article, the
reviewers gave top marks to the BMW in *nearly everything* that matters.
Yet, in the final analysis, they handed the "top dawg" award to the
Infinity.

Dopes...

-Fred W

"Malt_Hound" > wrote in message
...
> Road and Track did a comparison of the 545iA, Infinity M45 "sport" and
> Lexus GS430. You can read it he
>
> <http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=31&article_id=2221>
>
> I am not a huge fan of the new fivers, and I'd prefer a 6 cylinder with a
> manual gearbox myself, but I find it rather amusing that when you peruse
> the "ratings" table on the final page of the article, the reviewers gave
> top marks to the BMW in *nearly everything* that matters. Yet, in the
> final analysis, they handed the "top dawg" award to the Infinity.
>
> Dopes...
>
> -Fred W

It must have been the cup holders......

M

"Malt_Hound" > wrote in message
...
> Road and Track did a comparison of the 545iA, Infinity M45 "sport" and
> Lexus GS430. You can read it he
>
> <http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=31&article_id=2221>
>
> I am not a huge fan of the new fivers, and I'd prefer a 6 cylinder with
> a manual gearbox myself, but I find it rather amusing that when you
> peruse the "ratings" table on the final page of the article, the
> reviewers gave top marks to the BMW in *nearly everything* that matters.
> Yet, in the final analysis, they handed the "top dawg" award to the
> Infinity.
>
> Dopes...
>
> -Fred W
I'll bet John Bond is twirling in his grave over what people have done to
his magazine.
Jim

They pretty much did the same thing all the rags have been doing since the
new 5 came out, give it extraordinarily bad ratings for looks and the
IDrive, and just bad ratings for things like the interior, and ergonomics.
They have finally stopped bitching about the active steering but downplay
the fact that it tromps the others in all the performance stats and
maintains the incredibly near-perfect weight distribution and neutrality of
handling that goes with it. My favorite IDrive comment yet though is in the
Autoweek column about the 545i they just added to their one year test fleet,
it's something like "we keep complaining about IDrive and you keep yelling
back at us saying that if you drive the car for more than 3 days you get
used to it and it's not that bad". I'll have to keep an eye on their
long-term test and see how they rate it over the long term. With the car
mags though it always seems to be a "flavor of the day" deal and the M45 is
definitely their current choice.

bobukcat

"Malt_Hound" > wrote in message
...
> Road and Track did a comparison of the 545iA, Infinity M45 "sport" and
> Lexus GS430. You can read it he
>
> <http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=31&article_id=2221>
>
> I am not a huge fan of the new fivers, and I'd prefer a 6 cylinder with
> a manual gearbox myself, but I find it rather amusing that when you
> peruse the "ratings" table on the final page of the article, the
> reviewers gave top marks to the BMW in *nearly everything* that matters.
> Yet, in the final analysis, they handed the "top dawg" award to the
> Infinity.
>
> Dopes...
>
> -Fred W

"bobukcat" > wrote in message
...
> They pretty much did the same thing all the rags have been doing since the
> new 5 came out, give it extraordinarily bad ratings for looks and the
> IDrive, and just bad ratings for things like the interior, and ergonomics.
If looks were all that important, everybody would be driving a Jaguar.
Jim

Yes. Total bull**** conclusion.
If you look at how the "points' were awarded, the BMW some 14 points below
the winner, but it lost 10 points because of the price. **** the price if
you are buying these kinds of vehicles. Idiots. I suppose they figure that
their readers are too stupid to notice the price. Just tell me which is the
better car you ****heads, I'll decide if the price is a factor.





"Malt_Hound" > wrote in message
...
> Road and Track did a comparison of the 545iA, Infinity M45 "sport" and
> Lexus GS430. You can read it he
>
> <http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=31&article_id=2221>
>
> I am not a huge fan of the new fivers, and I'd prefer a 6 cylinder with a
> manual gearbox myself, but I find it rather amusing that when you peruse
> the "ratings" table on the final page of the article, the reviewers gave
> top marks to the BMW in *nearly everything* that matters. Yet, in the
> final analysis, they handed the "top dawg" award to the Infinity.
>
> Dopes...
>
> -Fred W

Exterior styling BMW -4 points yet the Infiniti's nose is as ugly as front
ends come.
Interior styling BMW -4.5 points yet the Infiniti's wooden dash makes it
look like the bridge on a ship.

I have to agree. These guys are trying very hard to make the Beemer fail,
especially if you consider that it outperforms the Infiniti in every respect
where performance is concerned.

I once had a lecturer that gave my 9/10 or 10/10 for every section of a
project I was being evaluated on, yet the mark for general impression was
8/10. So I confronted him and asked how he came to that conclusion. His
answer: "Oh, it's to encourage you to do even better next time." Maybe
those ID10TS just can't wait for BMWs next model, which will be even more
awesome!

At the end of the day. Let them each pick a car to take home for free and
they'll all take the Beemer. I know I would! (It's worth more also)

My 2c
MW

"Malt_Hound" > wrote in message
...
> Road and Track did a comparison of the 545iA, Infinity M45 "sport" and
> Lexus GS430. You can read it he
>
> <http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=31&article_id=2221>
>
> I am not a huge fan of the new fivers, and I'd prefer a 6 cylinder with a
> manual gearbox myself, but I find it rather amusing that when you peruse
> the "ratings" table on the final page of the article, the reviewers gave
> top marks to the BMW in *nearly everything* that matters. Yet, in the
> final analysis, they handed the "top dawg" award to the Infinity.
>
> Dopes...
>
> -Fred W

"MW de Jager" > wrote in message
...
> Exterior styling BMW -4 points yet the Infiniti's nose is as ugly as front
> ends come.
> Interior styling BMW -4.5 points yet the Infiniti's wooden dash makes it
> look like the bridge on a ship.
>
> I have to agree. These guys are trying very hard to make the Beemer fail,
> especially if you consider that it outperforms the Infiniti in every
respect
> where performance is concerned.
>
> I once had a lecturer that gave my 9/10 or 10/10 for every section of a
> project I was being evaluated on, yet the mark for general impression was
> 8/10. So I confronted him and asked how he came to that conclusion. His
> answer: "Oh, it's to encourage you to do even better next time." Maybe
> those ID10TS just can't wait for BMWs next model, which will be even more
> awesome!
>
> At the end of the day. Let them each pick a car to take home for free and
> they'll all take the Beemer. I know I would! (It's worth more also)


Now that's a cool measure, perhaps a more telling one. Mind you, if you
think people howl about favoratism now, try implementing that as comparison
criteria and see what happens.

-Russ.

"Malt_Hound" > wrote in message
...

I find it rather amusing that when you
> peruse the "ratings" table on the final page of the article, the
> reviewers gave top marks to the BMW in *nearly everything* that matters.
> Yet, in the final analysis, they handed the "top dawg" award to the
> Infinity.


A few months ago they did a "best all around sports car test" with about 7
or 8 cars. The two Porsches (Boxster S and 911) got rave reviews, half the
staffers picked the Boxster S and another three picked the 911, and they
also cleanred up on the ratings table too. First place? The Corvette. Why?
It had the best "bang for the buck". It's lunacy. If your looking for an
objective opinion on a car, these magazines are not the place to look.

Reality check, the current bimmers look the way they do because SOMEBODY IN
CHARGE AT BMW THOUGHT STYLING WAS ALL THAT IMPORTANT that they wanted to
change the perfectly fine looks of the previous cars to something
drastically different. If they think it's all that important, why don't you?

As for ergonomics, it is important because that's how the driver interacts
with the car's systems and minimizing distraction is very important.

Finally, you should all be grateful that the car books grouse about current
BMW ergonomics and styling...unless you actually like the ergonomics and
styling (and you have my sympathy, if you do). The more public bitching
there is about those things the more likely it is BMW will do something to
improve them.

- GRL


"Jim" > wrote in message
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>
> "bobukcat" > wrote in message
> ...
>> They pretty much did the same thing all the rags have been doing since
>> the
>> new 5 came out, give it extraordinarily bad ratings for looks and the
>> IDrive, and just bad ratings for things like the interior, and
>> ergonomics.
> If looks were all that important, everybody would be driving a Jaguar.
> Jim
>
>