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Old February 8th 04, 06:48 AM
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"Willem-Jan Markerink" > wrote in message
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> "Willem-Jan Markerink" > wrote in
> :
>
> > "rnf2" > wrote in
> > :
> >
> >> complete with gun to blast out any pesky cliffs you want to turn into
> >> ramps
> >>
> >>
> >> Saw that last month, great toys aren't they

> >
> > And if you find that version a bit too stylish & slender, take the radar
> > model:
> >
> >

http://www.jed.simonides.org/artille...n-22/n22-intro
> > .html
> >
> >
> >
> > The only thing more cute is the Russian Bereg, 3.13m wide....)
> > (but AFAIK, this Dana/Tatra is the only one with a real rotating turret)
> >
> >
> >

http://www.jed.simonides.org/artille...2/c2-introduct
> > ion.html (nice camper base!....)
> >
> >

http://www.jed.simonides.org/artille...upport/sup-int
> > roduction.html (even better camper-base....)))
> >
> > http://legion.wplus.net/guide/army/tr/maz543.shtml
> > (complete series of versions)
> >
> > http://veiculosmilitares.vilabol.uol.com.br/bereg.htm
> > (some spec's)
> >
> > http://veiculosmilitares.vilabol.uol...s/iscander.htm
> > (modern rocket launcher version)
> >
> >
> >
> > Or, if you think 8 wheels is a bit meager, try 12:
> >
> > http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/aut...AZ-547A_02.jpg
> >
> >

>
> Dang, these Russians don't know when to stop:
>
> 14x14 (might be 14x12, center axle hubs looks odd)
>
> http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/aut...KT-7917_01.jpg
>
> Oh well, why not 16x16:
>
> http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/aut...T-79221_01.jpg
>
> --
> Bye,
>
> Willem-Jan Markerink
>


Whoo hoo! thats their SS-20 nuke launcher bas isn't it. made to carry the
mobile missiles around so the Yankee nukes aimed at allt he concrete silos
wouldn't remove the retailiation second strike ability.

rhys


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  #12  
Old February 8th 04, 07:19 AM
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"Willem-Jan Markerink" > wrote in
:

> "Willem-Jan Markerink" > wrote in
> :
>
>> "rnf2" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> complete with gun to blast out any pesky cliffs you want to turn into
>>> ramps
>>>
>>>
>>> Saw that last month, great toys aren't they

>>
>> And if you find that version a bit too stylish & slender, take the radar
>> model:
>>
>> http://www.jed.simonides.org/artille...ries/n-22/n22-

intro
>> .html
>>
>>
>>
>> The only thing more cute is the Russian Bereg, 3.13m wide....)
>> (but AFAIK, this Dana/Tatra is the only one with a real rotating turret)
>>
>>
>> http://www.jed.simonides.org/artille..._series/c2/c2-

introduct
>> ion.html (nice camper base!....)
>>
>> http://www.jed.simonides.org/artille...s/support/sup-

int
>> roduction.html (even better camper-base....)))
>>
>> http://legion.wplus.net/guide/army/tr/maz543.shtml
>> (complete series of versions)
>>
>> http://veiculosmilitares.vilabol.uol.com.br/bereg.htm
>> (some spec's)
>>
>> http://veiculosmilitares.vilabol.uol...s/iscander.htm
>> (modern rocket launcher version)
>>
>>
>>
>> Or, if you think 8 wheels is a bit meager, try 12:
>>
>> http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/aut...AZ-547A_02.jpg
>>
>>

>
> Dang, these Russians don't know when to stop:
>
> 14x14 (might be 14x12, center axle hubs looks odd)
>
> http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/aut...KT-7917_01.jpg
>
> Oh well, why not 16x16:
>
> http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/aut...T-79221_01.jpg
>


Okay, before some smart-ass beats me to it:

2m more width:
http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz7904.html

24x24 (yes, that's 12 axles)
http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/aut...AZ-7907_01.jpg

(but at least driver & copilot can talk to eachother again....)

A few mo

http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz7907.html

http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz79221.html

--
Bye,

Willem-Jan Markerink

The desire to understand
is sometimes far less intelligent than
the inability to understand

>
[note: 'a-one' & 'en-el'!]
  #13  
Old February 8th 04, 07:19 AM
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"Willem-Jan Markerink" > wrote in
:

> "Willem-Jan Markerink" > wrote in
> :
>
>> "rnf2" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> complete with gun to blast out any pesky cliffs you want to turn into
>>> ramps
>>>
>>>
>>> Saw that last month, great toys aren't they

>>
>> And if you find that version a bit too stylish & slender, take the radar
>> model:
>>
>> http://www.jed.simonides.org/artille...ries/n-22/n22-

intro
>> .html
>>
>>
>>
>> The only thing more cute is the Russian Bereg, 3.13m wide....)
>> (but AFAIK, this Dana/Tatra is the only one with a real rotating turret)
>>
>>
>> http://www.jed.simonides.org/artille..._series/c2/c2-

introduct
>> ion.html (nice camper base!....)
>>
>> http://www.jed.simonides.org/artille...s/support/sup-

int
>> roduction.html (even better camper-base....)))
>>
>> http://legion.wplus.net/guide/army/tr/maz543.shtml
>> (complete series of versions)
>>
>> http://veiculosmilitares.vilabol.uol.com.br/bereg.htm
>> (some spec's)
>>
>> http://veiculosmilitares.vilabol.uol...s/iscander.htm
>> (modern rocket launcher version)
>>
>>
>>
>> Or, if you think 8 wheels is a bit meager, try 12:
>>
>> http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/aut...AZ-547A_02.jpg
>>
>>

>
> Dang, these Russians don't know when to stop:
>
> 14x14 (might be 14x12, center axle hubs looks odd)
>
> http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/aut...KT-7917_01.jpg
>
> Oh well, why not 16x16:
>
> http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/aut...T-79221_01.jpg
>


Okay, before some smart-ass beats me to it:

2m more width:
http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz7904.html

24x24 (yes, that's 12 axles)
http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/aut...AZ-7907_01.jpg

(but at least driver & copilot can talk to eachother again....)

A few mo

http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz7907.html

http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz79221.html

--
Bye,

Willem-Jan Markerink

The desire to understand
is sometimes far less intelligent than
the inability to understand

>
[note: 'a-one' & 'en-el'!]
  #14  
Old February 8th 04, 09:16 AM
Peter
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> 24x24 (yes, that's 12 axles)
> http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/aut...AZ-7907_01.jpg
>
> (but at least driver & copilot can talk to eachother again....)
>
> A few mo
>
> http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz7907.html
>
> http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz79221.html


Did you check out specs on these? It's got 1250hp gas turbine engine, and
electrical transmission with 24 motors (one for each wheel). Weighs 200tons,
top speed 40kmh. It never went into production, only a couple were made. It
has been used to successfully transport 80ton boat over 150kms. Sheesh...
suspect this guy won't fit in my garage

P


  #15  
Old February 8th 04, 09:16 AM
Peter
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> 24x24 (yes, that's 12 axles)
> http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/aut...AZ-7907_01.jpg
>
> (but at least driver & copilot can talk to eachother again....)
>
> A few mo
>
> http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz7907.html
>
> http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz79221.html


Did you check out specs on these? It's got 1250hp gas turbine engine, and
electrical transmission with 24 motors (one for each wheel). Weighs 200tons,
top speed 40kmh. It never went into production, only a couple were made. It
has been used to successfully transport 80ton boat over 150kms. Sheesh...
suspect this guy won't fit in my garage

P


  #16  
Old February 8th 04, 08:21 PM
Willem-Jan Markerink
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"Peter" > wrote in
:

>
>> 24x24 (yes, that's 12 axles)
>> http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/aut...AZ-7907_01.jpg
>>
>> (but at least driver & copilot can talk to eachother again....)
>>
>> A few mo
>>
>> http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz7907.html
>>
>> http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz79221.html

>
> Did you check out specs on these?


No, my Russian language skills have become a bit rusty lately, sadly....)

> It's got 1250hp gas turbine engine,
> and electrical transmission with 24 motors (one for each wheel).


Yeah, that made me wonder, the number of axles needed to make a different
type of propulsion more efficient, or to cope with increasing drive-train
slop....no use stepping on the pedal, and having the first axle move 1
second before the last one....)
Note that according to the few rare frontal drawings, they all have
independant suspension, which makes it likely they used the central-tube-
frame concept like on the Tatra and Pinzgauer.
(anything else will twist like a pretzel anyway, over such a huge length,
when articulating)

> Weighs
> 200tons, top speed 40kmh. It never went into production, only a couple
> were made.


Don't think stuff like that ever sees serial production....)
(if only for the fact that they can't produce enough tires so
quickly....)

> It has been used to successfully transport 80ton boat over
> 150kms. Sheesh... suspect this guy won't fit in my garage


Somewhere sometime there, they ev was a ship hull from titanium in
construction too....ordered by an European customer, with good contacts
with some titanium specialist company....well, contacts soured, company
went bankrupt, ship hull vanished.
Would have been the first and only titanium ship ever IIRC.

--
Bye,

Willem-Jan Markerink

The desire to understand
is sometimes far less intelligent than
the inability to understand

>
[note: 'a-one' & 'en-el'!]
  #17  
Old February 8th 04, 08:21 PM
Willem-Jan Markerink
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"Peter" > wrote in
:

>
>> 24x24 (yes, that's 12 axles)
>> http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/aut...AZ-7907_01.jpg
>>
>> (but at least driver & copilot can talk to eachother again....)
>>
>> A few mo
>>
>> http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz7907.html
>>
>> http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz79221.html

>
> Did you check out specs on these?


No, my Russian language skills have become a bit rusty lately, sadly....)

> It's got 1250hp gas turbine engine,
> and electrical transmission with 24 motors (one for each wheel).


Yeah, that made me wonder, the number of axles needed to make a different
type of propulsion more efficient, or to cope with increasing drive-train
slop....no use stepping on the pedal, and having the first axle move 1
second before the last one....)
Note that according to the few rare frontal drawings, they all have
independant suspension, which makes it likely they used the central-tube-
frame concept like on the Tatra and Pinzgauer.
(anything else will twist like a pretzel anyway, over such a huge length,
when articulating)

> Weighs
> 200tons, top speed 40kmh. It never went into production, only a couple
> were made.


Don't think stuff like that ever sees serial production....)
(if only for the fact that they can't produce enough tires so
quickly....)

> It has been used to successfully transport 80ton boat over
> 150kms. Sheesh... suspect this guy won't fit in my garage


Somewhere sometime there, they ev was a ship hull from titanium in
construction too....ordered by an European customer, with good contacts
with some titanium specialist company....well, contacts soured, company
went bankrupt, ship hull vanished.
Would have been the first and only titanium ship ever IIRC.

--
Bye,

Willem-Jan Markerink

The desire to understand
is sometimes far less intelligent than
the inability to understand

>
[note: 'a-one' & 'en-el'!]
  #18  
Old February 8th 04, 11:41 PM
rnf2
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"Willem-Jan Markerink" > wrote in message
. ..
> "Peter" > wrote in
> :
>
> >
> >> 24x24 (yes, that's 12 axles)
> >> http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/aut...AZ-7907_01.jpg
> >>
> >> (but at least driver & copilot can talk to eachother again....)
> >>
> >> A few mo
> >>
> >> http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz7907.html
> >>
> >> http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz79221.html

> >
> > Did you check out specs on these?

>
> No, my Russian language skills have become a bit rusty lately,

sadly....)
>
> > It's got 1250hp gas turbine engine,
> > and electrical transmission with 24 motors (one for each wheel).

>
> Yeah, that made me wonder, the number of axles needed to make a different
> type of propulsion more efficient, or to cope with increasing drive-train
> slop....no use stepping on the pedal, and having the first axle move 1
> second before the last one....)
> Note that according to the few rare frontal drawings, they all have
> independant suspension, which makes it likely they used the central-tube-
> frame concept like on the Tatra and Pinzgauer.
> (anything else will twist like a pretzel anyway, over such a huge length,
> when articulating)
>
> > Weighs
> > 200tons, top speed 40kmh. It never went into production, only a couple
> > were made.

>
> Don't think stuff like that ever sees serial production....)
> (if only for the fact that they can't produce enough tires so
> quickly....)
>
> > It has been used to successfully transport 80ton boat over
> > 150kms. Sheesh... suspect this guy won't fit in my garage

>
> Somewhere sometime there, they ev was a ship hull from titanium in
> construction too....ordered by an European customer, with good contacts
> with some titanium specialist company....well, contacts soured, company
> went bankrupt, ship hull vanished.
> Would have been the first and only titanium ship ever IIRC.
>
> --
> Bye,


The russkis have some Titanium subs around IIRC, they wanted the extra depth
capacity to get below where US torps were crushed by the water pressure is
one explanation I've heard... sounds a bit far fetched tho... more
likely they wanted to get below deep thermoclines to hide from sonar.


  #19  
Old February 8th 04, 11:41 PM
rnf2
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"Willem-Jan Markerink" > wrote in message
. ..
> "Peter" > wrote in
> :
>
> >
> >> 24x24 (yes, that's 12 axles)
> >> http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/aut...AZ-7907_01.jpg
> >>
> >> (but at least driver & copilot can talk to eachother again....)
> >>
> >> A few mo
> >>
> >> http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz7907.html
> >>
> >> http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz79221.html

> >
> > Did you check out specs on these?

>
> No, my Russian language skills have become a bit rusty lately,

sadly....)
>
> > It's got 1250hp gas turbine engine,
> > and electrical transmission with 24 motors (one for each wheel).

>
> Yeah, that made me wonder, the number of axles needed to make a different
> type of propulsion more efficient, or to cope with increasing drive-train
> slop....no use stepping on the pedal, and having the first axle move 1
> second before the last one....)
> Note that according to the few rare frontal drawings, they all have
> independant suspension, which makes it likely they used the central-tube-
> frame concept like on the Tatra and Pinzgauer.
> (anything else will twist like a pretzel anyway, over such a huge length,
> when articulating)
>
> > Weighs
> > 200tons, top speed 40kmh. It never went into production, only a couple
> > were made.

>
> Don't think stuff like that ever sees serial production....)
> (if only for the fact that they can't produce enough tires so
> quickly....)
>
> > It has been used to successfully transport 80ton boat over
> > 150kms. Sheesh... suspect this guy won't fit in my garage

>
> Somewhere sometime there, they ev was a ship hull from titanium in
> construction too....ordered by an European customer, with good contacts
> with some titanium specialist company....well, contacts soured, company
> went bankrupt, ship hull vanished.
> Would have been the first and only titanium ship ever IIRC.
>
> --
> Bye,


The russkis have some Titanium subs around IIRC, they wanted the extra depth
capacity to get below where US torps were crushed by the water pressure is
one explanation I've heard... sounds a bit far fetched tho... more
likely they wanted to get below deep thermoclines to hide from sonar.


  #20  
Old February 9th 04, 06:31 AM
Peter
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>> Weighs
>> 200tons, top speed 40kmh. It never went into production, only a
>> couple were made.

>
> Don't think stuff like that ever sees serial production....)
> (if only for the fact that they can't produce enough tires so
> quickly....)


In fact it was supposed to go into serial... Russians intended to carry most
of their second-generation ICBMs on these. Since 2nd gen never materialized
these trucks were scrapped. What a waste of R&D... some serious work must
have gone into these vehicles.

P


 




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