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2000 Grand Caravan
Interesting!! If the oil pan rusted out from the outside in, then im sure
the pan was beatin up causing the paint to chip away thus causing rust, if it rusted from the inside out!!! impossible.... If the pan did rust from the outside in.... somewhere, somehow this vehicle lacks serious maintenance!!! wouldnt you see the rust and repair the pan before it got to this point?? I believe there is more to this story then what is being told...... I cant see any assisstance from Chrysler or any other manufacuter helping out Glenn Beasley Chrysler Tech "Plasticman" > wrote in message .. . > I had a critical failure in my 2000 GC last week. The oil pan seems to have > rusted through, and drained out all the oil. The big issue is that I was > going 85 km/h when it happened. This thing is 58 months old, and was in for > a service and oil change to the dealer 2 months ago. > > best bet it seems is a remanufactured engine. Is this a common problem? > Should the dealer take the responsibility since it was only a couple of > months agio that they had it last? I can see the trail of oil now that there > is light, and it obviously was draining for some time the night before. > > Any opinions that might shed some light? > > GJ > > > |
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Interesting!! If the oil pan rusted out from the outside in, then im sure
the pan was beatin up causing the paint to chip away thus causing rust, if it rusted from the inside out!!! impossible.... If the pan did rust from the outside in.... somewhere, somehow this vehicle lacks serious maintenance!!! wouldnt you see the rust and repair the pan before it got to this point?? I believe there is more to this story then what is being told...... I cant see any assisstance from Chrysler or any other manufacuter helping out Glenn Beasley Chrysler Tech "Plasticman" > wrote in message .. . > I had a critical failure in my 2000 GC last week. The oil pan seems to have > rusted through, and drained out all the oil. The big issue is that I was > going 85 km/h when it happened. This thing is 58 months old, and was in for > a service and oil change to the dealer 2 months ago. > > best bet it seems is a remanufactured engine. Is this a common problem? > Should the dealer take the responsibility since it was only a couple of > months agio that they had it last? I can see the trail of oil now that there > is light, and it obviously was draining for some time the night before. > > Any opinions that might shed some light? > > GJ > > > |
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Interesting indeed,
If you are having the dealer do tyhe oil service on it, shouldn't they be spotting it, noting it, and trying to seel me the replacement part? This is what really burns me. I'm not a gearhead, so i'm not up under my cars on a monthly basis. I pay good money for their service work. I do it because I expect a level of service. Maybe Glenn, you provide that level, but my local sure didn't. GJ "maxpower" > wrote in message ... > Interesting!! If the oil pan rusted out from the outside in, then im sure > the pan was beatin up causing the paint to chip away thus causing rust, if > it rusted from the inside out!!! impossible.... If the pan did rust from the > outside in.... somewhere, somehow this vehicle lacks serious maintenance!!! > wouldnt you see the rust and repair the pan before it got to this point?? I > believe there is more to this story then what is being told...... I cant see > any assisstance from Chrysler or any other manufacuter helping out > Glenn Beasley Chrysler Tech > "Plasticman" > wrote in message > .. . > > I had a critical failure in my 2000 GC last week. The oil pan seems to > have > > rusted through, and drained out all the oil. The big issue is that I was > > going 85 km/h when it happened. This thing is 58 months old, and was in > for > > a service and oil change to the dealer 2 months ago. > > > > best bet it seems is a remanufactured engine. Is this a common problem? > > Should the dealer take the responsibility since it was only a couple of > > months agio that they had it last? I can see the trail of oil now that > there > > is light, and it obviously was draining for some time the night before. > > > > Any opinions that might shed some light? > > > > GJ > > > > > > > > |
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Interesting indeed,
If you are having the dealer do tyhe oil service on it, shouldn't they be spotting it, noting it, and trying to seel me the replacement part? This is what really burns me. I'm not a gearhead, so i'm not up under my cars on a monthly basis. I pay good money for their service work. I do it because I expect a level of service. Maybe Glenn, you provide that level, but my local sure didn't. GJ "maxpower" > wrote in message ... > Interesting!! If the oil pan rusted out from the outside in, then im sure > the pan was beatin up causing the paint to chip away thus causing rust, if > it rusted from the inside out!!! impossible.... If the pan did rust from the > outside in.... somewhere, somehow this vehicle lacks serious maintenance!!! > wouldnt you see the rust and repair the pan before it got to this point?? I > believe there is more to this story then what is being told...... I cant see > any assisstance from Chrysler or any other manufacuter helping out > Glenn Beasley Chrysler Tech > "Plasticman" > wrote in message > .. . > > I had a critical failure in my 2000 GC last week. The oil pan seems to > have > > rusted through, and drained out all the oil. The big issue is that I was > > going 85 km/h when it happened. This thing is 58 months old, and was in > for > > a service and oil change to the dealer 2 months ago. > > > > best bet it seems is a remanufactured engine. Is this a common problem? > > Should the dealer take the responsibility since it was only a couple of > > months agio that they had it last? I can see the trail of oil now that > there > > is light, and it obviously was draining for some time the night before. > > > > Any opinions that might shed some light? > > > > GJ > > > > > > > > |
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My '97 3.3 w/ 87k on it has a lot of rust on the pan as well. It's way more
than surface rust - so I have to believe its a steel formulation problem. Crawling under my vehicle to inspect my oil pan for rock chips is not my idea of routine maintenance unless of course it was made in China ? ! If it rusts through, that will be the straw that broke the camel's back. > GJ > "maxpower" > wrote in message > ... If the pan did rust from the outside in.... somewhere, somehow this vehicle lacks serious > maintenance!!! > > wouldnt you see the rust and repair the pan before it got to this point?? > I > > believe there is more to this story then what is being told...... I cant > see > > any assisstance from Chrysler or any other manufacuter helping out > > Glenn Beasley Chrysler Tech > > "Plasticman" > wrote in message > > .. . > > > I had a critical failure in my 2000 GC last week. The oil pan seems to > > have > > > rusted through, and drained out all the oil. The big issue is that I > was > > > going 85 km/h when it happened. This thing is 58 months old, and was in > > for > > > a service and oil change to the dealer 2 months ago. > > > > > > best bet it seems is a remanufactured engine. Is this a common problem? > > > Should the dealer take the responsibility since it was only a couple of > > > months agio that they had it last? I can see the trail of oil now that > > there > > > is light, and it obviously was draining for some time the night before. > > > > > > Any opinions that might shed some light? > > > > > > GJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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My '97 3.3 w/ 87k on it has a lot of rust on the pan as well. It's way more
than surface rust - so I have to believe its a steel formulation problem. Crawling under my vehicle to inspect my oil pan for rock chips is not my idea of routine maintenance unless of course it was made in China ? ! If it rusts through, that will be the straw that broke the camel's back. > GJ > "maxpower" > wrote in message > ... If the pan did rust from the outside in.... somewhere, somehow this vehicle lacks serious > maintenance!!! > > wouldnt you see the rust and repair the pan before it got to this point?? > I > > believe there is more to this story then what is being told...... I cant > see > > any assisstance from Chrysler or any other manufacuter helping out > > Glenn Beasley Chrysler Tech > > "Plasticman" > wrote in message > > .. . > > > I had a critical failure in my 2000 GC last week. The oil pan seems to > > have > > > rusted through, and drained out all the oil. The big issue is that I > was > > > going 85 km/h when it happened. This thing is 58 months old, and was in > > for > > > a service and oil change to the dealer 2 months ago. > > > > > > best bet it seems is a remanufactured engine. Is this a common problem? > > > Should the dealer take the responsibility since it was only a couple of > > > months agio that they had it last? I can see the trail of oil now that > > there > > > is light, and it obviously was draining for some time the night before. > > > > > > Any opinions that might shed some light? > > > > > > GJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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I have 2000 GC and they salt the roads up here like crazy. My pan still
looks new after a quick wipe with varsol after I change the oil. I can not imagine a pan rusting through unless it was soaking in acid. Are the pans not galvanized anyway, I don't think I have ever seen a rusty pan, and I've done a lot of back yard mechanics in my time. "Matt Whiting" > wrote in message ... > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > "Plasticman" > wrote in message > > .. . > > > >>I had a critical failure in my 2000 GC last week. The oil pan seems to > > > > have > > > >>rusted through, and drained out all the oil. The big issue is that I was > >>going 85 km/h when it happened. This thing is 58 months old, and was in > > > > for > > > >>a service and oil change to the dealer 2 months ago. > >> > >>best bet it seems is a remanufactured engine. Is this a common problem? > > > > > > I don't know how common it is in all areas but people have posted about it > > before in this forum. > > > > I've never heard of such a thing out here where I live from anyone. But, we > > don't salt the roads either. > > I'm amazed at these incidents myself. I live in an area where a fair > bit of road salt is used (PA and commute to NY) and my 1996 GV oil pan > is in fine shape. It is hard for me to imagine what could cause rust > through in 4 years. Was this fan driven in a coastal area where salt > spray is prevalent? Do you live in Canada or somewhere that uses even > more road salt than NY? Did you ever drive over a curb or other > obstacle that scratched through the paint on the oil pan? > > > Matt > |
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I have 2000 GC and they salt the roads up here like crazy. My pan still
looks new after a quick wipe with varsol after I change the oil. I can not imagine a pan rusting through unless it was soaking in acid. Are the pans not galvanized anyway, I don't think I have ever seen a rusty pan, and I've done a lot of back yard mechanics in my time. "Matt Whiting" > wrote in message ... > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > "Plasticman" > wrote in message > > .. . > > > >>I had a critical failure in my 2000 GC last week. The oil pan seems to > > > > have > > > >>rusted through, and drained out all the oil. The big issue is that I was > >>going 85 km/h when it happened. This thing is 58 months old, and was in > > > > for > > > >>a service and oil change to the dealer 2 months ago. > >> > >>best bet it seems is a remanufactured engine. Is this a common problem? > > > > > > I don't know how common it is in all areas but people have posted about it > > before in this forum. > > > > I've never heard of such a thing out here where I live from anyone. But, we > > don't salt the roads either. > > I'm amazed at these incidents myself. I live in an area where a fair > bit of road salt is used (PA and commute to NY) and my 1996 GV oil pan > is in fine shape. It is hard for me to imagine what could cause rust > through in 4 years. Was this fan driven in a coastal area where salt > spray is prevalent? Do you live in Canada or somewhere that uses even > more road salt than NY? Did you ever drive over a curb or other > obstacle that scratched through the paint on the oil pan? > > > Matt > |
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