car engine oil extended change

) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying :

>>It's _very_ unlikely that a low-speed collision doing "little if any"
>>body damage will deploy any - let alone all - windbags.

> There is a video on the net somewhere of a guy in a sports car having
> to stay stopped at a light while a little ol' lady with a shopping bag
> slowly crosses in front of him. He rudely honks his horn at her, and
> she in turn swings her shopping bag, hitting the front of his car.
>
> *POOF* His airbag deploys in his face, and she continues walking
> across the street. Dunno if it was a setup or not, doesn't look like
> it, but funnier than H anyway.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...27841583480458

If you think that genuine, then there's absolutely no hope for you...
For a start, why's the windscreen on the Merc CLK ("sports car"?) smashed?

Come to that, if you think it's FUNNY, there's little hope...

One of the big synthetic oil producers recommends this for 100%
synthetic oil (which is what I use):
12 months or 25,000 miles, change the filter and all the oil.
At the 6-month point, change the filter and the 1 quart of oil that
goes with it. This replenishes the additives that take care of things
like acids that form from combustion by-products.

Synthetics are also superb at hot and cold temp extremes.

I've been using it on my vehicles for years, typically about 25k miles
per year. I have kept the vehicles for over 200k miles.

"Lawrence Glickman" > wrote in message
...
> Your problem has to do with oil contamination not mileage or
> oxidation. If you don't get the oil up to engine temp ( somewhat over
> the boiling point of water for the oil, but I've never measured it ),
> condensates will accumulate in the oil. Gasoline, water vapor, who
> knows what from crankcase fumes. Pretty soon, if you never let your
> engine run long enough to boil off these volatile condensates, you've
> got acidic crap pumping through your engine that is going to dilute
> the lubricity and other wear-resistant characteristics of the oil,
> which will lead to early engine death.
>
> So you have to change your oil just as often as anyone else, but for
> the contamination reason. You'll have pea soup in the oil sump
> eventually, or worse, gunk that will clog the minute oil galleries
> that lube the piston bearings and piston pin ( I call it the pin...the
> rod that the head pivots on ).
>
> Say at least every 6 months, every 4 months would be better.

Yank Alert.

Recommending an oil change on a honda every 1700 miles is ludicrous, try not
to post in Merkin groups...

"Kev Dyson" > writes:


>100 - 130k miles over that time.
>Never have them serviced, and just keep the fluids topped up.
>Haven't 'lost' an engine yet. How many car breakdowns do you see by the side
>of the road due to 'inadequate oil changes"?
>Yea you might get a bit of extra wear, but hey, an engine will be scrapped
>typically before its 150k mile birthday, well before its expiry date.

My brother had a used car in the 1990s blow the engine at less than 60,000
miles. Mechanic found all kinds of sludge and speculated the previous
owner had changed the oil.

Brian Elfert

"jw 1111" > wrote in
:

> Hi, My car (toyota petrol 1.3) does a smallish mileage in a year say
> around 5000 miles, mainly
> on fairly short distances around town. what would be the 'time' limit
> to reasonably extend oil changes for economy reasons using a semi
> synthetic oil ?
>
> I suspect a lot of people will immediately say don't economize in this
> way. However some forty years ago I had a conversation with a
> professor of an engineering college and he said engine oil does not
> degrade 'time wise' as fast as most people think ( and importantly as
> the oil companies would wish us to
> believe). So by how much time could one reasonably delay an oil
> change with modern oils?

FACTS
http://www.nordicgroup.us/oil.htm#Oi...ge%20Intervals

Depends if your low mileage is considered severe service, see above. Best
way is to have an oil analysis done.

It would probably be cheaper to just do an oil change annually if your
use is not severe.




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On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 17:27:55 GMT, "Tony Bond \(UncleFista\)"
> wrote:

>
>"Lawrence Glickman" > wrote in message
.. .
>> Your problem has to do with oil contamination not mileage or
>> oxidation. If you don't get the oil up to engine temp ( somewhat over
>> the boiling point of water for the oil, but I've never measured it ),
>> condensates will accumulate in the oil. Gasoline, water vapor, who
>> knows what from crankcase fumes. Pretty soon, if you never let your
>> engine run long enough to boil off these volatile condensates, you've
>> got acidic crap pumping through your engine that is going to dilute
>> the lubricity and other wear-resistant characteristics of the oil,
>> which will lead to early engine death.
>>
>> So you have to change your oil just as often as anyone else, but for
>> the contamination reason. You'll have pea soup in the oil sump
>> eventually, or worse, gunk that will clog the minute oil galleries
>> that lube the piston bearings and piston pin ( I call it the pin...the
>> rod that the head pivots on ).
>>
>> Say at least every 6 months, every 4 months would be better.
>
>Yank Alert.
>
>Recommending an oil change on a honda every 1700 miles is ludicrous, try not
>to post in Merkin groups...
>

The O.P. has a 1.8 Liter? That's a little larger than a lawnmower
engine where I live. Give the little feller a chance to live...feed
it clean oil.

Lg

wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 10:06:56 -0000, in misc.consumers.frugal-living
> "Kev Dyson" > wrote:
>
>>
>> Well I always buy a car from new, and keep it 7 or 8 years,
>> typically doing 100 - 130k miles over that time.
>> Never have them serviced, and just keep the fluids topped up.
>> Haven't 'lost' an engine yet. How many car breakdowns do you see by
>> the side of the road due to 'inadequate oil changes"?
>> Yea you might get a bit of extra wear, but hey, an engine will be
>> scrapped typically before its 150k mile birthday, well before its
>> expiry date.
>>
>> This is all myth and magic to get punters to shell out on expensive
>> oil and spares.
>>
>> As long as you keep all your fluids topped up it'll be fine IMHO
>>
>> Kev
>>
>
>
> I only buy used cars and they usually have over 100K on them when I
> buy them. I hope I never buy one that you owned! I've had the
> pleasure of blowing up two cars engines, one at 124,000 miles (Chev
> Malibu Wagon) and the other at 278,000 miles (VW Scirocco ). I'm
> guessing the car that blew up at 124,000 miles was not treated
> properly by it's first owner/s. That or is blew up so early in life
> because it was made in America.

What matters is WHY the engine died. Lack of oil changes isnt
likely to kill it suddenly, thats much more likely to be due to a
failure of the cooling system. Even if you do get an increased level
of corrosion, that should just see the engine need to be replaced
because its producing too many emissions, not sudden failure.

> My current car (ford/mazda escort) had 132K when I bought it and now
> has 145k on it no problems so far. Even my piece of crap FORD
> Aerostar went 167K before I sold it to a junk yard because I was
> tired of replacing transmissions on it. I know the Aerostar had it's
> oil changed every 5000 miles, I have all the receipts from the
> original owners.

Irrelevant to how it would have gone with no oil changes.

Lawrence Glickman ) gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying :

> The O.P. has a 1.8 Liter? That's a little larger than a lawnmower
> engine where I live.

Here in the rest of the world, it's towards the upper end of normal.
It's three times the size of the engine in most of my cars/vans.

'merkins. Bless 'em.

"Lawrence Glickman" > wrote in message
...
> The O.P. has a 1.8 Liter? That's a little larger than a lawnmower
> engine where I live. Give the little feller a chance to live...feed
> it clean oil.

It's not a 2-stroke dude.