What's wrong with ticket quotas for Highway Patrolmen?

Bill Funk > wrote:
> On 24 Aug 2006 22:04:09 GMT, (Amy Likes Pot!)
> wrote:
>
> >"John Smith" > wrote:
> >> "Amy Likes Pot!" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS > wrote:
> >> >> It's not like the cops make up the charges. The speeders and DUIs
> >> >> and red light runners are everywhere doing their killing and
> >> >> maiming of innocent people. As it is, the cops don't even catch 1%
> >> >> of these deadly psychopaths. So i'm all for ticket quotas and i
> >> >> want them raised. Only a criminal coddler thinks otherwise.
> >> >
> >> > Me too! I think that qoutas are great, because you know that the
> >> > cops are all lazy *******s and they aren't going to fulfill their
> >> > qoatas until the end of the month. That means that speeding and
> >> > other traffic offences can pretty much be done at the beginning of
> >> > the month and you won't get caught.
> >>
> >> We don't have any quotas here, we can write as many as we want.
> >
> >When you don't have quotas then you can write the tickets whenever, but
> >when you do have quotas you know that all the tickets come at the end of
> >the month.
>
> If it's that predictable, then only the truly stupid get tickets at
> the end of the month.
> A tax on stupidity!
> I like that.

It isn't 100%, but it is close. I have never gotten a ticket, but I speed
all the time. But I know the places the cops hide and the times they are
out there. Of course, that is only for my area (if I go on a drive 40 or
50 miles or so away I have to be more careful).

"John Smith" > wrote:
> "Bill Funk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:45:54 -0500, "John Smith"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>"Amy Likes Pot!" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS > wrote:
> >>>> It's not like the cops make up the charges. The speeders and DUIs
> >>>> and red light runners are everywhere doing their killing and maiming
> >>>> of innocent people. As it is, the cops don't even catch 1% of these
> >>>> deadly psychopaths. So i'm all for ticket quotas and i want them
> >>>> raised. Only a criminal coddler thinks otherwise.
> >>>
> >>> Me too! I think that qoutas are great, because you know that the
> >>> cops are
> >>> all lazy *******s and they aren't going to fulfill their qoatas until
> >>> the
> >>> end of the month. That means that speeding and other traffic
> >>> offences can
> >>> pretty much be done at the beginning of the month and you won't get
> >>> caught.
> >>
> >>
> >>We don't have any quotas here, we can write as many as we want.
> >
> > I'm assuming, by that response, that you are a cop.
> > Don't you have job performance criteria that you kjust meet? Periodic
> > performance reviews/critiques?
> > --
> > Bill Funk
> > replace "g" with "a"
>
> Yes, we do, and statistics are kept. One of the criteria is a "community
> contact". This can be a citation, warning, just being "officer friendly"
> and chatting with someone that wants directions, etc. All contacts count
> the same. They encourage us to have lots of "community contacts" which
> I do (everything from letting kids sit on my motorcycle to blocking
> traffic while help comes to fix a stalled vehicle). I have gone 2 weeks
> without writing a citation and no one has ever said a word to me. I do
> write lots of warnings (these also count as contacts). I don't know
> about other departments (I've only worked for 2) but here there are no
> quotas or anything like them.

That isn't what happens in my community. We could definitely use a few
more "officer friendly"s. My friend's car broke down, last night, and the
cop who stopped yelled at us because we couldn't park on the side of the
road! WFT?!!? Like we were parked! When we told him that the car stalled
out and we couldn't get it started he gave us a nasty look and drove off.
THAT is why the police get a three-letter-name (and it isn't "cop").

"Amy Likes Pot!" > wrote in message
...
> "John Smith" > wrote:
>> "Bill Funk" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:45:54 -0500, "John Smith"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >>"Amy Likes Pot!" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >>> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS > wrote:
>> >>>> It's not like the cops make up the charges. The speeders and DUIs
>> >>>> and red light runners are everywhere doing their killing and maiming
>> >>>> of innocent people. As it is, the cops don't even catch 1% of these
>> >>>> deadly psychopaths. So i'm all for ticket quotas and i want them
>> >>>> raised. Only a criminal coddler thinks otherwise.
>> >>>
>> >>> Me too! I think that qoutas are great, because you know that the
>> >>> cops are
>> >>> all lazy *******s and they aren't going to fulfill their qoatas until
>> >>> the
>> >>> end of the month. That means that speeding and other traffic
>> >>> offences can
>> >>> pretty much be done at the beginning of the month and you won't get
>> >>> caught.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>We don't have any quotas here, we can write as many as we want.
>> >
>> > I'm assuming, by that response, that you are a cop.
>> > Don't you have job performance criteria that you kjust meet? Periodic
>> > performance reviews/critiques?
>> > --
>> > Bill Funk
>> > replace "g" with "a"
>>
>> Yes, we do, and statistics are kept. One of the criteria is a "community
>> contact". This can be a citation, warning, just being "officer friendly"
>> and chatting with someone that wants directions, etc. All contacts count
>> the same. They encourage us to have lots of "community contacts" which
>> I do (everything from letting kids sit on my motorcycle to blocking
>> traffic while help comes to fix a stalled vehicle). I have gone 2 weeks
>> without writing a citation and no one has ever said a word to me. I do
>> write lots of warnings (these also count as contacts). I don't know
>> about other departments (I've only worked for 2) but here there are no
>> quotas or anything like them.
>
> That isn't what happens in my community. We could definitely use a few
> more "officer friendly"s. My friend's car broke down, last night, and the
> cop who stopped yelled at us because we couldn't park on the side of the
> road! WFT?!!? Like we were parked! When we told him that the car stalled
> out and we couldn't get it started he gave us a nasty look and drove off.
> THAT is why the police get a three-letter-name (and it isn't "cop").


That is what gives us all a bad name. We can't do a lot to help (I'm a
motor unit so I don't have any tools etc.).
We usually block traffic until a tow truck arrives, or try and move the
vehicle so that it doesn't block traffic. At one time we carried "slim
jims" in the cars, and would use our "push bumper" to push a vehicle out of
the roadway, but people started suing the PD saying we scratched their
vehicle - so all that stopped. Now about all we are allowed to do is call
for a tow truck, or if possible, we just help push the vehicle by hand.

Sorry to hear you had problems.
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Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), John Smith said in
rec.autos.driving:
> That is what gives us all a bad name. We can't do a lot to help (I'm a
> motor unit so I don't have any tools etc.).
> We usually block traffic until a tow truck arrives, or try and move the
> vehicle so that it doesn't block traffic. At one time we carried "slim
> jims" in the cars, and would use our "push bumper" to push a vehicle out of
> the roadway, but people started suing the PD saying we scratched their
> vehicle - so all that stopped. Now about all we are allowed to do is call
> for a tow truck, or if possible, we just help push the vehicle by hand.

Used to be that way where I am also. The police would open a car for you
if you had a brain fart and locked your keys in the car. Then one
tourist too many sued the County Police for damaging the vehicle and
the Chief said no more unlocking car doors unless a life is in danger.
Oh well, you try to do something for some people and then all have to
suffer because of a prick or two...


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"necromancer" > wrote in message
th.net...
> Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), John Smith said in
> rec.autos.driving:
>> That is what gives us all a bad name. We can't do a lot to help (I'm a
>> motor unit so I don't have any tools etc.).
>> We usually block traffic until a tow truck arrives, or try and move the
>> vehicle so that it doesn't block traffic. At one time we carried "slim
>> jims" in the cars, and would use our "push bumper" to push a vehicle out
>> of
>> the roadway, but people started suing the PD saying we scratched their
>> vehicle - so all that stopped. Now about all we are allowed to do is
>> call
>> for a tow truck, or if possible, we just help push the vehicle by hand.
>
> Used to be that way where I am also. The police would open a car for you
> if you had a brain fart and locked your keys in the car. Then one
> tourist too many sued the County Police for damaging the vehicle and
> the Chief said no more unlocking car doors unless a life is in danger.
> Oh well, you try to do something for some people and then all have to
> suffer because of a prick or two...
>
>
> --
> C an't
> I nterpret
> A nything

Yep, every silver lining has a black cloud! LOL

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Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Speeders & Drunk
Drivers are MURDERERS, proud (and obvious) graduate of the South Hampton
Institute of Technology told this lie in rec.autos.driving:

> I drive at or below the limit all the time and i never get pulled over
> for speeding. The previous poster says cops falsely cite drivers for
> speeding "all the time".

Oh, no you don't, liar. You know damn well that you have admitted to
speeding and that you have been caught; or do you need to be reminded,
yet again:


> "> Have you ever driven a car faster than the legal speed limit?

> Yes, but never deliberately. In fact i got a speeding ticket about 5
> years ago for doing 41 in a 25. I just about kicked the cops teeth in
> cause i was sure he was lying. No way the SL on this wide open
> stretch could be 25, i thought."

> Pride of America (c.k.a. "laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMOCIDE), 10/3/2002
> Message-ID: >
> http://tinyurl.com/5u4wg

> Proof that POA is LBMHB/lbVH/SADDAM:
> See the following: http://tinyurl.com/ahphj

Holy ****ing ****! Talk about your Freuidian Slips! If I didn't think
that the FBI, CIA and NSA were a bunch of idiots, I'd forward a few
copies of Loco Laura's posts under the new nym to them. Look at the
acronym; we have a *real* criminal in our midst now, and xeton2001
@yahoo.com is no freaking American (native or otherwise)....


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"John Smith" > wrote:
> "Amy Likes Pot!" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "John Smith" > wrote:
> >> "Bill Funk" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:45:54 -0500, "John Smith"
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>"Amy Likes Pot!" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >>> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS >
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>> It's not like the cops make up the charges. The speeders and DUIs
> >> >>>> and red light runners are everywhere doing their killing and
> >> >>>> maiming of innocent people. As it is, the cops don't even catch
> >> >>>> 1% of these deadly psychopaths. So i'm all for ticket quotas
> >> >>>> and i want them raised. Only a criminal coddler thinks
> >> >>>> otherwise.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Me too! I think that qoutas are great, because you know that the
> >> >>> cops are
> >> >>> all lazy *******s and they aren't going to fulfill their qoatas
> >> >>> until the
> >> >>> end of the month. That means that speeding and other traffic
> >> >>> offences can
> >> >>> pretty much be done at the beginning of the month and you won't
> >> >>> get caught.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>We don't have any quotas here, we can write as many as we want.
> >> >
> >> > I'm assuming, by that response, that you are a cop.
> >> > Don't you have job performance criteria that you kjust meet?
> >> > Periodic performance reviews/critiques?
> >> > --
> >> > Bill Funk
> >> > replace "g" with "a"
> >>
> >> Yes, we do, and statistics are kept. One of the criteria is a
> >> "community contact". This can be a citation, warning, just being
> >> "officer friendly" and chatting with someone that wants directions,
> >> etc. All contacts count the same. They encourage us to have lots of
> >> "community contacts" which I do (everything from letting kids sit on
> >> my motorcycle to blocking traffic while help comes to fix a stalled
> >> vehicle). I have gone 2 weeks without writing a citation and no one
> >> has ever said a word to me. I do write lots of warnings (these also
> >> count as contacts). I don't know about other departments (I've only
> >> worked for 2) but here there are no quotas or anything like them.
> >
> > That isn't what happens in my community. We could definitely use a few
> > more "officer friendly"s. My friend's car broke down, last night, and
> > the cop who stopped yelled at us because we couldn't park on the side
> > of the road! WFT?!!? Like we were parked! When we told him that the
> > car stalled out and we couldn't get it started he gave us a nasty look
> > and drove off. THAT is why the police get a three-letter-name (and it
> > isn't "cop").
>
> That is what gives us all a bad name. We can't do a lot to help (I'm a
> motor unit so I don't have any tools etc.).

Honestly, just a "sorry to hear about that" would have been fine. I mean,
if he couldn't get out or something because it was on the highway (an
interstate, so I know it can be dangerous) I could understand that, but he
could have AT LEAST been sympothetic.

> We usually block traffic until a tow truck arrives, or try and move the
> vehicle so that it doesn't block traffic. At one time we carried "slim
> jims" in the cars, and would use our "push bumper" to push a vehicle out
> of the roadway, but people started suing the PD saying we scratched their
> vehicle - so all that stopped. Now about all we are allowed to do is
> call for a tow truck, or if possible, we just help push the vehicle by
> hand.

I know not all cops are like that, but it does seem that there are a lot of
them like that out there.

> Sorry to hear you had problems.

Thank you for saying that.

necromancer > wrote:
> Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), John Smith said in
> rec.autos.driving:
> > That is what gives us all a bad name. We can't do a lot to help (I'm a
> > motor unit so I don't have any tools etc.).
> > We usually block traffic until a tow truck arrives, or try and move the
> > vehicle so that it doesn't block traffic. At one time we carried "slim
> > jims" in the cars, and would use our "push bumper" to push a vehicle
> > out of the roadway, but people started suing the PD saying we scratched
> > their vehicle - so all that stopped. Now about all we are allowed to
> > do is call for a tow truck, or if possible, we just help push the
> > vehicle by hand.
>
> Used to be that way where I am also. The police would open a car for you
> if you had a brain fart and locked your keys in the car. Then one
> tourist too many sued the County Police for damaging the vehicle and
> the Chief said no more unlocking car doors unless a life is in danger.
> Oh well, you try to do something for some people and then all have to
> suffer because of a prick or two...

I remember my brother and my dad getting the police to get their cars open,
but luckily I haven't done that (yet).

On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 10:39:29 -0700, Bill Funk >
wrote:

>On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 02:04:18 GMT, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
>MURDERERS > wrote:
>
>>On 24 Aug 2006 11:44:10 -0700, "Gary V" > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>>>> It's not like the cops make up the charges.
>>>
>>>Are you not the same poster who in another thread said the cops planted
>>>bullet casings, the gun, etc.? What are they doing there - uhh, let's
>>>see - MAKING UP CHARGES!
>>>
>>>So a cop will plant evidence to "make up" a felony, but not to get his
>>>ticket quota for the day? THINK!
>>
>>They don't have to make up charges on speeders since speeders are
>>everywhere. Quotas simply force the cop to do his job.
>
>People shoot people every day.
>What's the difference here?

HAHAHAHA. Now the board loonie says the number of shootings per day
equals the number of speedings!!!!!!!! Off hand i'd say there are a
million TIMES as many speeding crimes a day as shootings.!! THINK

john wrote:


> Ticket quotas are for one thing only: income!
> What is happening is they are using the criminal code to make huge sums
> of money. Some locals even use the revenue as a budget item and pressure
> the local law enforcement to increase the number of tickets.

Is there any difference between moving violation tickets and parking
tickets as a source of income? I don't think anyone makes any bones
about parking tickets being a source of income. The people who write
them used to be called "Meter Maids." If you don't pay the meter you
will get a ticket. Either way the city gets income.

John Mara