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  #51  
Old July 8th 05, 05:35 PM
Jeff Strickland
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"Peter Bozz" > wrote in message
...
>
> >>It doesn't seem then that you have a flat rate "road tax" as they do
> >>here (next to all the other sundry taxes, such as property, sales,

>
> [snip]
>
> >
> > In any event, we pay considerably less fuel tax than Europeans pay, this

is
> > why we have Suburbans and Hummers trolling the highways, and you guys

find a
> > way to make due with Geo Metros and other micro minis that Americans do

not
> > seem to tolerate very well. The argument has long been that if we paid

the
> > same fuel taxes that you pay, we would change the way we drive.

>
> Logic dictates that, yes, you will. Chances are you'd be less likely to
> buy a Suburban than a Japanese minivan. That will keep the gasoline
> demand down a bit. But hey, it's your money. If you want to keep giving
> bundles of it to the Middle East, Venezuela and other place that the
> average American (and European) can't even find on the map, that's your
> prerogative. I hear the Burj Al Arab Hotel is a very expensive piece of
> architecture.
>
> >
> > I drive a 3 Series as a daily driver, my wife gets by nicely with a

Mazda
> > minivan, my daughter has a Toyota truck, and we keep a Jeep in the side

yard
> > for weekend driving. As you can see, I keep several cars around and

don't
> > worry much about paying road taxes.
> >
> >

>
> If you kept these cars in Holland, they would set you back at least
> $300+ a month (rough guestimation: the road tax on a diesel powered Land
> Cruiser alone is about $150 a month).
>
> And that's before you even drove a single mile with any of them.




Geez, I hope you guys don't churn this into yet another reason to hate
Americans.




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  #52  
Old July 9th 05, 09:36 PM
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> >> That's probably because the picture was taken in a parking garage in
the
> >> section that they send the large vehicles to. You can't fit these big
> >> trucks in the same sized spaces as regular cars.
> >>
> >> -Fred W

> >
> > So wait, if I understand you properly you found a bunch of large

vehicles
> > in
> > the large vehicle section? what are the odds of that?
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >

> Actually, they park the big trucks outside. Even given that is IS an

"over
> sized" parking lot. how many trucks of this size do you see, period, in

your
> area?
>



There aren't all that many, really, though I live half an hour from the
city, so most of the people around that drive trucks do so because they need
them for their buisinesses, etc. The distance from common destinations is
such that fuel economy is more important. I drive 30k+ miles per year, so
fuel costs are a significant part of my budget. My miles are split between
a Dodge 3500 Van and my 318is. Here in upstate NY gas is about $2.25/gal.



  #53  
Old July 11th 05, 01:34 AM
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"Peter Bozz" > wrote
> The question is: with the proliferation of soccer moms and their SUVs
> and all the soccer practice going on in the US, how come US soccer sucks?


Is being rated 8-10 in the world sucking? Not the last I heard. And, if
the US sucks, why did the U20 team beat Argentina and Egypt and
tie Deutschland before losing to Italy? And why is the US's Women's
team rated 1st?

Floyd
  #54  
Old July 11th 05, 07:05 AM
Peter Bozz
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>> The question is: with the proliferation of soccer moms and their SUVs
>> and all the soccer practice going on in the US, how come US soccer sucks?

>
>
> Is being rated 8-10 in the world sucking? Not the last I heard. And, if
> the US sucks, why did the U20 team beat Argentina and Egypt and
> tie Deutschland before losing to Italy? And why is the US's Women's
> team rated 1st?


I assume U20 is "under twenty"? If they are indeed kicking ass, then the
soccer moms have served their purpose: a new generation of top notch
soccer players is emerging from the US.

Anyway, just I checked the Fifa World Football (yes, that's "soccer")
Rankings: teh U Ess of A is ranked 10th! I might have to retract that
"sucks" statement. Sorry... Old prejudices die the hardest.
  #55  
Old July 11th 05, 07:15 AM
Peter Bozz
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[snip]

>>Logic dictates that, yes, you will. Chances are you'd be less likely to
>>buy a Suburban than a Japanese minivan. That will keep the gasoline
>>demand down a bit. But hey, it's your money. If you want to keep giving
>>bundles of it to the Middle East, Venezuela and other place that the
>>average American (and European) can't even find on the map, that's your
>>prerogative. I hear the Burj Al Arab Hotel is a very expensive piece of
>>architecture.
>>
>>
>>>I drive a 3 Series as a daily driver, my wife gets by nicely with a

>
> Mazda
>
>>>minivan, my daughter has a Toyota truck, and we keep a Jeep in the side

>
> yard
>
>>>for weekend driving. As you can see, I keep several cars around and

>
> don't
>
>>>worry much about paying road taxes.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>If you kept these cars in Holland, they would set you back at least
>>$300+ a month (rough guestimation: the road tax on a diesel powered Land
>>Cruiser alone is about $150 a month).
>>
>>And that's before you even drove a single mile with any of them.

>
>
>
>
> Geez, I hope you guys don't churn this into yet another reason to hate
> Americans.
>


By "this" do you mean the fact that you pay a lot less taxes on cars and
fuel in the States? If so, then I believe the appropriate term here
would be "jealousy"....
  #56  
Old July 11th 05, 04:03 PM
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"Peter Bozz" > wrote
>>> The question is: with the proliferation of soccer moms and their SUVs
>>> and all the soccer practice going on in the US, how come US soccer
>>> sucks?

>>
>>
>> Is being rated 8-10 in the world sucking? Not the last I heard. And, if
>> the US sucks, why did the U20 team beat Argentina and Egypt and
>> tie Deutschland before losing to Italy? And why is the US's Women's
>> team rated 1st?

>
> I assume U20 is "under twenty"? If they are indeed kicking ass, then the
> soccer moms have served their purpose: a new generation of top notch
> soccer players is emerging from the US.
>
> Anyway, just I checked the Fifa World Football (yes, that's "soccer")
> Rankings: teh U Ess of A is ranked 10th! I might have to retract that
> "sucks" statement. Sorry... Old prejudices die the hardest.


Yeah, the US (men - the women have been on top for most of the
history of international women's soccer ;-> ) have inched up over
the last 5 years. They're not quite ready to bid for a WC, however,
let alone win one.

Floyd (soccer dad)

  #57  
Old July 11th 05, 05:27 PM
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"Peter Bozz" > wrote in message
...
> [snip]
>
> >>Logic dictates that, yes, you will. Chances are you'd be less likely to
> >>buy a Suburban than a Japanese minivan. That will keep the gasoline
> >>demand down a bit. But hey, it's your money. If you want to keep giving
> >>bundles of it to the Middle East, Venezuela and other place that the
> >>average American (and European) can't even find on the map, that's your
> >>prerogative. I hear the Burj Al Arab Hotel is a very expensive piece of
> >>architecture.
> >>
> >>
> >>>I drive a 3 Series as a daily driver, my wife gets by nicely with a

> >
> > Mazda
> >
> >>>minivan, my daughter has a Toyota truck, and we keep a Jeep in the side

> >
> > yard
> >
> >>>for weekend driving. As you can see, I keep several cars around and

> >
> > don't
> >
> >>>worry much about paying road taxes.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>If you kept these cars in Holland, they would set you back at least
> >>$300+ a month (rough guestimation: the road tax on a diesel powered Land
> >>Cruiser alone is about $150 a month).
> >>
> >>And that's before you even drove a single mile with any of them.

> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Geez, I hope you guys don't churn this into yet another reason to hate
> > Americans.
> >

>
> By "this" do you mean the fact that you pay a lot less taxes on cars and
> fuel in the States? If so, then I believe the appropriate term here
> would be "jealousy"....



A reasonable man would be jealous, a zealot would have fire in his eyes. Yet
another reason to hate Americans. ;-)




  #58  
Old July 15th 05, 08:02 PM
Dori A Schmetterling
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And I thought the right word would be "envy".... :-)

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"Jeff Strickland" > wrote in message
...
[...]
>
>> By "this" do you mean the fact that you pay a lot less taxes on cars and
>> fuel in the States? If so, then I believe the appropriate term here
>> would be "jealousy"....

>
>
> A reasonable man would be jealous, a zealot would have fire in his eyes.
> Yet
> another reason to hate Americans. ;-)
>
>
>
>



  #59  
Old July 17th 05, 05:13 PM
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 08:15:46 +0200, Peter Bozz > wrote:

>> Geez, I hope you guys don't churn this into yet another reason to hate
>> Americans.

>
>By "this" do you mean the fact that you pay a lot less taxes on cars and
>fuel in the States? If so, then I believe the appropriate term here
>would be "jealousy"....


"Jealous" because we have a populace and "leaders" who don't want to
pay their bills? Who just it's just fine to borrow hundreds of
$billion a year, and let future generations pay for their high-flying
lifestyle? Sounds like a bunch of selfish assholes, to me.

  #60  
Old July 18th 05, 07:01 AM
Peter Bozz
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Dori A Schmetterling wrote:
> And I thought the right word would be "envy".... :-)
>
> DAS


It's just that "envy" implies that I want to be like 'em. Which I don't
really (no offense meant; I just like being European).
 




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