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truckinsp wrote:
> MT drivers have always been more responsible than drivers > in more populated states You have to resort to your own imagination to support your arguments? Try again. |
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>You have to resort to your own imagination to support your arguments?
>Try again. Obviously you've never been to MT..... |
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>You have to resort to your own imagination to support your arguments?
>Try again. Obviously you've never been to MT..... |
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truckinsp wrote:
>>You have to resort to your own imagination to support your arguments? >>Try again. > Obviously you've never been to MT..... I live in a state that has a low population density as well. I don't see any difference between the relative responsibility of drivers here as compared to places like near Washington DC. |
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truckinsp wrote:
>>You have to resort to your own imagination to support your arguments? >>Try again. > Obviously you've never been to MT..... I live in a state that has a low population density as well. I don't see any difference between the relative responsibility of drivers here as compared to places like near Washington DC. |
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On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 04:34:07 GMT, "truckinsp" <truckinsp@ nowhere.com>
wrote: >My story has always been the same....speed kills.....the lack of a speed >limit in MT is proof of NOTHING and should not be used to support increased >speed limits.....MT drivers have always been more responsible than drivers >in more populated states and when given the chance to speed they didn't do >it......now tell me that THAT would happen in California or Ohio or anywhere >else If speed killed, we'd have no space program, NASCAR would be gone, and all cars would be governed to 5 mph. Speed does not kill. As trite as it may sound, it's the sudden stop that kills. The job of the drivers is to apply a lot of thought to avoid that sudden stop. It's not really hard, most people manage it every day. -- Bill Funk Change "g" to "a" |
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On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 04:34:07 GMT, "truckinsp" <truckinsp@ nowhere.com>
wrote: >My story has always been the same....speed kills.....the lack of a speed >limit in MT is proof of NOTHING and should not be used to support increased >speed limits.....MT drivers have always been more responsible than drivers >in more populated states and when given the chance to speed they didn't do >it......now tell me that THAT would happen in California or Ohio or anywhere >else If speed killed, we'd have no space program, NASCAR would be gone, and all cars would be governed to 5 mph. Speed does not kill. As trite as it may sound, it's the sudden stop that kills. The job of the drivers is to apply a lot of thought to avoid that sudden stop. It's not really hard, most people manage it every day. -- Bill Funk Change "g" to "a" |
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On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 17:43:07 -0800, "C.H." >
wrote: >On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 11:18:11 -0700, Big Bill wrote: > >> The US Interstates d >> and the Autobahn differ in far more than merely trhe speed limits. >> The entire philosophy regarding driving is very different in the two >> places. > >That doesn't change the fact that speeds beyond 75mph are not by default >unsafe. There are US-Freeways where even 65 can be dangerous, others would >allow much higher speeds without problems, and _that_ is why I told >Anthony that his answer is bull****. Yes, you're right. Speed in and of itself is not unsafe. I never said it is. But the difference between the crash rates is *not* because of the different speed limits. > >> In the US, driving is seen as a necessity (almost a right) and is >> treated as such; thus, we have much lower licensing requirements as >> well as much laxer enforcement of driving rules than the Germans have. > >In Germany driving is also seen as a necessity and the licensing rules are >not nearly strict enough, but that also does not make driving faster than >75 by default unsafe. The licensing and enforcement are indeed tougher than here in the US. "Not strict enough" means nothing in this case. > >> The result is the fact that the two road systems have a very different >> population of drivers. The speed laws are one method of reflecting >> that fact. > >The speed laws are mainly reflecting the fact that most states (like the >'Bundeslaender' in Germany) are suffering from a distinct lack of funds >caused by overspending of politicians. How do you come to this conclusion? > >> The fact that there are, in the US, some drivers who are very safe at, >> say, 90 mph does not negate the fact that they share the roads with >> people who do not understand what those lines in the middle of the >> road are for. > >If a driver is safe at 90mph he knows to adjust his speed to conditions >and thus does not drive 90mph where the conditions, including other >motorists, do not allow 90mph. Which is pretty much everywhere. Plus, your idea allows the individual drivers to determine when it's safe to go 90; that's obviously not the way to do things; all one needs to do is watch those who do go 90 to see that many of them are not safe. > >Anthony, on the other hand, claims that 90mph is by definition unsafe and >that and only that was the point I was trying to make. > >Chris -- Bill Funk Change "g" to "a" |
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On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 17:43:07 -0800, "C.H." >
wrote: >On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 11:18:11 -0700, Big Bill wrote: > >> The US Interstates d >> and the Autobahn differ in far more than merely trhe speed limits. >> The entire philosophy regarding driving is very different in the two >> places. > >That doesn't change the fact that speeds beyond 75mph are not by default >unsafe. There are US-Freeways where even 65 can be dangerous, others would >allow much higher speeds without problems, and _that_ is why I told >Anthony that his answer is bull****. Yes, you're right. Speed in and of itself is not unsafe. I never said it is. But the difference between the crash rates is *not* because of the different speed limits. > >> In the US, driving is seen as a necessity (almost a right) and is >> treated as such; thus, we have much lower licensing requirements as >> well as much laxer enforcement of driving rules than the Germans have. > >In Germany driving is also seen as a necessity and the licensing rules are >not nearly strict enough, but that also does not make driving faster than >75 by default unsafe. The licensing and enforcement are indeed tougher than here in the US. "Not strict enough" means nothing in this case. > >> The result is the fact that the two road systems have a very different >> population of drivers. The speed laws are one method of reflecting >> that fact. > >The speed laws are mainly reflecting the fact that most states (like the >'Bundeslaender' in Germany) are suffering from a distinct lack of funds >caused by overspending of politicians. How do you come to this conclusion? > >> The fact that there are, in the US, some drivers who are very safe at, >> say, 90 mph does not negate the fact that they share the roads with >> people who do not understand what those lines in the middle of the >> road are for. > >If a driver is safe at 90mph he knows to adjust his speed to conditions >and thus does not drive 90mph where the conditions, including other >motorists, do not allow 90mph. Which is pretty much everywhere. Plus, your idea allows the individual drivers to determine when it's safe to go 90; that's obviously not the way to do things; all one needs to do is watch those who do go 90 to see that many of them are not safe. > >Anthony, on the other hand, claims that 90mph is by definition unsafe and >that and only that was the point I was trying to make. > >Chris -- Bill Funk Change "g" to "a" |
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"truckinsp" <truckinsp@ nowhere.com> wrote in message k.net>...
Why do you hate America? > >It looks like I will have to fight dirty. > > Go ahead.....look like a fool.....I particularly love those who come in > thinking the judge was born yesterday..... > > >I have a few things working for me: > > Nah, you don't > > >1) Where he was, and what he drove: He was parked right around a > >corner, after I passed under an overpass. He drove a Cruiser marked > >"Highway Patrol." I barely had time to react, and I even hit the > >brakes the moment I saw him. > > So how does THAT work in your favor?????? The cop was dirty. Don't you get it? > > >2) The traffic was quite heavy at the time. If I had to hazard a > >guess, I'd say that the rate of cars going by was about 100 per > >minute. Most were traveling between 65-80mph. > > And you were traveling 94 mph.....and in that kind of traffic....if I were > the judge, I'd up the charges to reckless endangerment.... Not everyone is like you grandpa. Some of use have places to go to and we needed to be there like 5 minutes ago. > > >3) When I asked him how he knew that I was speeding, he said "I > >watched your vehicle, to see if it looked like you were going above > >90. Then I flipped on the radar and got your speed." > > Standard procedure....we're trained to estimate speeds..... You mean revenue generation. > > >4) I then asked for permission to see the radar readout. He informed > >me that it would not be safe to do so (too many cars going by) and > >that the readout was erased after a few seconds. > > Are you kidding????? Do you think that we have time to "lock" the radar > just so the perp can get a view?????? Why should we take your word. What if you made up a reading? > > >5) He also admitted that he writes many speeding tickets along that > >same road every day. > > He more than likely does......looks like a good hunting ground..... > > >6) When the cop acted surprised at the speed of my Sentra, I simply > >said, "Well yeah, it's a pretty good car. She gets me where I need to > >go." > > Remember to repeat that to the judge in court...... > > >7) The cop pulled me over as the sun was going down. I don't think he > >got a good look at my face. I was just part of a string of tickets > >he'd written that day. He wrote down my car color as "Gray," but it > >is really a bluish-purple. I have a goatee, though it could very > >easily become a full beard. > > So what???? You could easily shave too.....Do you honestly think the judge > is going to care that he doesn't remember that you had a goatee at the > time????? > > >Questions: > > >- Is it possible for me to find out if he's been using a POP radar? I > >hear those can be wildly inaccurate. > HUH?????? > > >- Where can I find the traffic study for the toll road? > > Try the state DOT > >- Will a judge grant continuance for just about anything? > > Maybe until you **** him off...... but probably not for a traffic ticket > case...... > > >- Could I convince the judge to reduce the ticket and dismiss the > >points based on any of the above items? > > ROTFLMAO....go ahead and ask....wish I could be there to > watch.....especially when you tell him the cop can't recognize you because > you grew a beard..... > > Why don't you just grow up and take responsibility for your actions? THAT > will impress the judge because he doesn't see THAT very often.... |
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