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Seldom see "smoke belchers" anymore * Why not?



 
 
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  #21  
Old August 17th 05, 01:51 PM
Bill Putney
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Bill Putney wrote:

> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
>> ...In the US,
>> the founding fathers wisely setup a government that institutionalizes
>> idiotic and stupid bureaucrats, so as a result the government
>> isn't afraid of intelligent people since all the bureaucrats know
>> that intelligence isn't a requirement to get their job!

>
>
> Wha..!? They consciously thought that out? It's so wise, I can't
> follow the logic to the end of the sentence.
>


Hah! Maybe that qualifies me for a gov't job!

Bill Putney
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Old August 18th 05, 12:48 PM
Ted Mittelstaedt
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"Bill Putney" > wrote in message
...
> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
> > ...In the US,
> > the founding fathers wisely setup a government that institutionalizes
> > idiotic and stupid bureaucrats, so as a result the government
> > isn't afraid of intelligent people since all the bureaucrats know
> > that intelligence isn't a requirement to get their job!

>
> Wha..!? They consciously thought that out? It's so wise, I can't
> follow the logic to the end of the sentence.
>


Read Federalist #51

http://www.thisnation.com/library/bo...ralist/51.html

Basically he is saying that government needs to be created with an
inherent inability to organize around some single goal. He talks
about 'defect of better motives'

Ted


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Old August 19th 05, 11:26 AM
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Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> "Matt Whiting" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>I never said it was noble, but for some people it is a reality and one
>>they can't easily escape.

>
>
> They can escape it if they want. Hundreds of years ago there were
> many mass migrations to the cities to escape this sort of thing, you can
> read up about them in your European history. And these were pesants
> who still thought that the Earth was the center of the Universe.


Many can. Maybe even most can, but not all can. You live in a dream
world. At least you are enjoying the feeling of superiority that your
dream gives you.

Matt
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Old August 20th 05, 06:44 AM
Ted Mittelstaedt
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"Matt Whiting" > wrote in message
news
> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> > "Matt Whiting" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>I never said it was noble, but for some people it is a reality and one
> >>they can't easily escape.

> >
> >
> > They can escape it if they want. Hundreds of years ago there were
> > many mass migrations to the cities to escape this sort of thing, you can
> > read up about them in your European history. And these were pesants
> > who still thought that the Earth was the center of the Universe.

>
> Many can. Maybe even most can, but not all can. You live in a dream
> world. At least you are enjoying the feeling of superiority that your
> dream gives you.
>


It's not superiority I'm enjoying, it's the lack of pollution from choosing
to
maintain my car.

Ted


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Old November 5th 05, 04:07 AM
John
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Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

> "Nomen Nescio" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Used to be oil pumpers could be spotted two blocks away, belching blue
> > smoke. These day they are e x t r e m e l y rare indeed. Why?
> >
> > I know oil compounding has improved and so have oil and air filters. Even
> > metallurgy may be better than in the "old days" of the '50s through '70s,
> > but can all this account for cleaner exhausts? I almost left out law
> > enforcement of pollution regs which may also have helped. Anything else

> or
> > have I covered all bases?
> >

>
> Then there are people like me who when we see smoke belchers, we call it in
> to the telephone number that our state emissions program has set up for this
> purpose. (since in this state it's illegal to have visible smoke)
>
> I figure that by God I pay the money to make sure my vehicles are clean,
> everyone else on the road can do the same.


Yeah I'm sure the government gets right on that too. Around here the response
to calling the tax hotline for vehicles garaged locally but registered out of
state is ..... (nothing). And the response for calling the hotline for rampant
welfare fraud is . . . (nothing.)

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Old November 6th 05, 07:38 PM
Bret Ludwig
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The real reason for the dearth of smoke belchers except in places like
the Ozarks and Appalachians is the current credit policy, where anyone
capable of walking in the door of a car dealership can get financed on
a new car, combined with the absurdly high labor rates shops charge
today. Unless you are a homeowner it's about impossible to carry out
any major DIY vehicle work, and it's cheaper to make payments on a new
Kia than pay someone else to keep an old car running on a continuous
basis.

I have all my cars but one registered out of state and the people
across the street are cops. I have a BONA FIDE PLACE OF BUSINESS out of
state. Since I have one car registered in state and it's a '61 (but it
has full, not antique, tags) I'm covered. The car I drive most is an
'85. It had EFI, a smog pump, EGR and a catalyst when it left the
factory. Somewhere along the line it lost all those things and acquired
a four barrel Holley. "It was like that when I bought it"....:-)

I figure it costs another $100 in gas a year from the decreased fuel
mileage. However, what would one good EFI repair cost? I have two spare
rebuildable carbs, two spare distributors, and two spare
good-when-pulled alternators on the shelf for it, so parts are unlikely
to be a problem for another decade or so.

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Old November 7th 05, 12:16 AM
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Bret Ludwig wrote:

> I have all my cars but one registered out of state and the people
> across the street are cops. I have a BONA FIDE PLACE OF BUSINESS out of
> state. Since I have one car registered in state and it's a '61 (but it
> has full, not antique, tags) I'm covered. The car I drive most is an
> '85.


Generally it is unlawful to garage a car in another state than it is
registered for more than x days per year, where x varies by state. The
insurance company would have something to say too, if the car is not
garaged where it is listed as insured, or if the insurance garaged address
is different than the registration garaged address.

Having a business in another state does not permit a legal registration out
of state unless the vehicle is garaged in that state. Businesses are
expected and required to register vehicles where the vehicle is principally
garaged, although some (few) exceptions do exist, e.g. car rental
companies. Check your DMV/RMV for details.

Where do you live?

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Old November 7th 05, 01:30 AM
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On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 19:16:45 -0500, Lisa > wrote:

>
>
>Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
>> I have all my cars but one registered out of state and the people
>> across the street are cops. I have a BONA FIDE PLACE OF BUSINESS out of
>> state. Since I have one car registered in state and it's a '61 (but it
>> has full, not antique, tags) I'm covered. The car I drive most is an
>> '85.

>
>Generally it is unlawful to garage a car in another state than it is
>registered for more than x days per year, where x varies by state. The
>insurance company would have something to say too, if the car is not
>garaged where it is listed as insured, or if the insurance garaged address
>is different than the registration garaged address.
>
>Having a business in another state does not permit a legal registration out
>of state unless the vehicle is garaged in that state. Businesses are
>expected and required to register vehicles where the vehicle is principally
>garaged, although some (few) exceptions do exist, e.g. car rental
>companies. Check your DMV/RMV for details.
>
>Where do you live?



My cars have never been garaged for the last 20 years or so. Where
does that leave me??
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Old November 7th 05, 02:53 AM
Lisa
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wrote:

> On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 19:16:45 -0500, Lisa > wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> >> I have all my cars but one registered out of state and the people
> >> across the street are cops. I have a BONA FIDE PLACE OF BUSINESS out of
> >> state. Since I have one car registered in state and it's a '61 (but it
> >> has full, not antique, tags) I'm covered. The car I drive most is an
> >> '85.

> >
> >Generally it is unlawful to garage a car in another state than it is
> >registered for more than x days per year, where x varies by state. The
> >insurance company would have something to say too, if the car is not
> >garaged where it is listed as insured, or if the insurance garaged address
> >is different than the registration garaged address.
> >
> >Having a business in another state does not permit a legal registration out
> >of state unless the vehicle is garaged in that state. Businesses are
> >expected and required to register vehicles where the vehicle is principally
> >garaged, although some (few) exceptions do exist, e.g. car rental
> >companies. Check your DMV/RMV for details.
> >
> >Where do you live?

>
> My cars have never been garaged for the last 20 years or so. Where
> does that leave me??


Probably in Canada. For registration and/or insurance purposes the term garaged
does not necessarily imply that the vehicle is "inside a garage."

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Old November 7th 05, 08:21 PM
Bret Ludwig
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If you live in a no smog inspection state you can get some great deals
on the "junkyard bound" cars described earlier. I'm looking for one
right now, I'll probably find one in Denver. There are a fair number
there that meet that exact criteria.

Trucks are impossible to find like that because the Mexicans buy them,
de-electronify them and take them back to Mexico. Anything with a V-8
and a hole for a distributor is game.

 




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