Alternator Belt Break and overheat

On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:34:49 -0500, "johnboy" >
wrote:

>"remco" > wrote
>
>> Maybe some of the guys that really know what happens in bugs will jump in
>> and tell us.
>
>Short answer: you sell the bug on the spot and hitchhike 500 miles home.

Okay. What's the long answer?

I understand that is ruins the motor. I would like to understand how.
What exactly is happening as heat increases?

-- Christian
'71 Bus -- Turtle

Save Darfur -- http://www.savedarfur.org/
World Vision (Darfur) -- http://donate.wvus.org/OA_HTML/xxwvi...item=107218 2
ICC (Sudan) -- http://www.persecution.org/Countries/sudan.html

On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:46:10 GMT, MUADIB®
> wrote:

>>>>>>>
>>If you had read the manual you would know, but there are only a few guys on the
>>world that read them...
>
>That's the truth!.................I deal with it every day. On new
>$50k and more Vehicles too! Lincoln Navigator on down.
>I haven't worked on a Ford GT yet. I kinda expect to in the next year
>or so..............I hope they leave me with a concern like "it does
>this___ *while Driving* "
>I can only hope.

Reminds me of the story of the college student who got a car. After a
short time (relatively speaking), it started smoking and running
poorly. She told a friend about it and he asked if she had ever put
oil in it. Her response was, "No, it came with that."

Probably not true but makes a point about some drivers.

-- Christian

Save Darfur -- http://www.savedarfur.org/
World Vision (Darfur) -- http://donate.wvus.org/OA_HTML/xxwvi...item=107218 2
ICC (Sudan) -- http://www.persecution.org/Countries/sudan.html

Christian M. Mericle wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:34:49 -0500, "johnboy" >
> wrote:
>
>
>>"remco" > wrote
>>
>>
>>>Maybe some of the guys that really know what happens in bugs will jump in
>>>and tell us.
>>
>>Short answer: you sell the bug on the spot and hitchhike 500 miles home.
>
>
> Okay. What's the long answer?
>
> I understand that is ruins the motor. I would like to understand how.
> What exactly is happening as heat increases?
>
> -- Christian
> '71 Bus -- Turtle

Heat will thin the oil to the point it can't support the
bearing loads. That's probably the failure mechanism when the
engine seizes.

Will also distort the cylinders.

Valve failures are probably a close second to lube failure.
Without head cooling, exh valve and/or seat will self-destruct.


--

Speedy Jim
http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/

"Christian M. Mericle" > wrote in message
news
>>Short answer: you sell the bug on the spot and hitchhike 500 miles home.
>
> Okay. What's the long answer?

Everything goes to hell, fast. Scored, destroyed bearing surfaces, warped
heads,
cylinders, stuck pistons, and sometimes an oil fire for good measure.

Hey Rookie,
Your belief that the cooling fan runs off the crankshaft on a Type 1
probably came from the fact that some VW engines (Type 3 and Type 4 )
have the cooling fan attached to the crankshaft. On those engines if you
loose a belt your battery doesn't recharge and eventually the car will
stop after all the power to run the coil and or accessories drained. But
, the engine stays cooled by the fan.
The Bug Me Video series and Bob Hoover's Tulz series must be read and
watched religiously before another VW problem pokes out it's ugly
little head. : )



Be Cool.....AIRCOOLED !!

"Wild" Bill Tucker

President
Rare Air VW Club
Pensacola, Florida




'78 VW Bus ( "Old Rusty" )

'76 Bug "The Grape"

'69 Squareback , Arizona car, Automatic








Rare Air VW Club Website:

http://www.devoted.to/RareAir

or

http://community.webtv.net/stlkikn/RAREAIRVWCLUBINFO

On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:40:18 -0500, "johnboy" >
wrote:

>"Christian M. Mericle" > wrote in message
>news >
>>>Short answer: you sell the bug on the spot and hitchhike 500 miles home.
>>
>> Okay. What's the long answer?
>
>Everything goes to hell, fast. Scored, destroyed bearing surfaces, warped
>heads,
>cylinders, stuck pistons, and sometimes an oil fire for good measure.
>

And the case halves got ot hell in handbasket
too............everything that needs cooling to stay alive and weell
dies a quick death.

Piston faces get holes in them, valves actually stretch, springs
weaken, all the bearing surfaces.................ALL of em take a hell
of a dive. Piston rings break, scroll gears wear very fast, .......
Only thing that may survive without any major
damage...................the fan turbine, the pulleys and the
tin.............and the tin is an * iffy * thing. Can't count on much
from one that's been run way hot.

Even the flywheel takes an extra bit of wear that was unnecessary. Now
that doesn't seem possible does it?

Basically everything needs to be rebuilt or re-manufactured, machined,
aligned, or replaced or something after an overheat like described.
Good luck.




Remove "YOURPANTIES" to reply

MUADIB®

http://www.angelfire.com/retro/sster...IN%20PAGE.html

If A Quiz is Quizical,
What is a test?

The Peacemaking Meeting scheduled for today has been
cancelled due to a conflict.

>Reminds me of the story of the college student who got a car. After a
>short time (relatively speaking), it started smoking and running
>poorly. She told a friend about it and he asked if she had ever put
>oil in it. Her response was, "No, it came with that."

The most common one for me this year is "I get FM fine, but AM is
terible". Of course they omit to tell me that some aftermarket video
sytem was installed last week, and the problems all started about that
time. RF modulators are my nemesis. There should be a sticker
installed right in the middle of the steering wheel airbag that says
"AM reception will be poor if the RF modulator is *on*"

They wouldn't read it , but it would be sweet to be able to point to
it and smile real big as I charged them 75 bucks to flip a switch.

Assswipes......................UGH!~



Remove "YOURPANTIES" to reply

MUADIB®

http://www.angelfire.com/retro/sster...IN%20PAGE.html

If A Quiz is Quizical,
What is a test?

The Peacemaking Meeting scheduled for today has been
cancelled due to a conflict.

"johnboy" > wrote in message
...
> "Christian M. Mericle" > wrote in message
> news >
> >>Short answer: you sell the bug on the spot and hitchhike 500 miles home.
> >
> > Okay. What's the long answer?
>
> Everything goes to hell, fast. Scored, destroyed bearing surfaces, warped
> heads,
> cylinders, stuck pistons, and sometimes an oil fire for good measure.
>
>

It also finds your fridge, eats your best cheese, drinks your beer, calls
your sister a slag. It then goes to your computer, deletes all of your files
& send chain mail virus's to all of your mates. Fifty boxex of fake Rolexes
and Viagra turn up within a week, and you get some of the best mortgage
rates around.

MUADIB® > wrote:
>>Reminds me of the story of the college student who got a car. After a
>>short time (relatively speaking), it started smoking and running
>>poorly. She told a friend about it and he asked if she had ever put
>>oil in it. Her response was, "No, it came with that."
>
>The most common one for me this year is "I get FM fine, but AM is
>terible". Of course they omit to tell me that some aftermarket video
>sytem was installed last week, and the problems all started about that
>time. RF modulators are my nemesis. There should be a sticker
>installed right in the middle of the steering wheel airbag that says
>"AM reception will be poor if the RF modulator is *on*"
>
>They wouldn't read it , but it would be sweet to be able to point to
>it and smile real big as I charged them 75 bucks to flip a switch.
>
>Assswipes......................UGH!~
>
>
>
>Remove "YOURPANTIES" to reply
>
>MUADIB®
>
>http://www.angelfire.com/retro/sster...IN%20PAGE.html
>
>If A Quiz is Quizical,
>What is a test?
>
>The Peacemaking Meeting scheduled for today has been
>cancelled due to a conflict.

I can't remember the last time I put a radio on AM. I think that in Europe no one
uses AM anymore.

Joao
72 Super 1302

"Joao Eliseu" > wrote in message
...
>
> MUADIB® > wrote:
> >>Reminds me of the story of the college student who got a car. After a
> >>short time (relatively speaking), it started smoking and running
> >>poorly. She told a friend about it and he asked if she had ever put
> >>oil in it. Her response was, "No, it came with that."
> >
> >The most common one for me this year is "I get FM fine, but AM is
> >terible". Of course they omit to tell me that some aftermarket video
> >sytem was installed last week, and the problems all started about that
> >time. RF modulators are my nemesis. There should be a sticker
> >installed right in the middle of the steering wheel airbag that says
> >"AM reception will be poor if the RF modulator is *on*"
> >
> >They wouldn't read it , but it would be sweet to be able to point to
> >it and smile real big as I charged them 75 bucks to flip a switch.
> >
> >Assswipes......................UGH!~
> >
> >
> >
> >Remove "YOURPANTIES" to reply
> >
> >MUADIB®
> >
> >http://www.angelfire.com/retro/sster...IN%20PAGE.html
> >
> >If A Quiz is Quizical,
> >What is a test?
> >
> >The Peacemaking Meeting scheduled for today has been
> >cancelled due to a conflict.
>
> I can't remember the last time I put a radio on AM. I think that in Europe
no one
> uses AM anymore.
>
> Joao
> 72 Super 1302

www.virginradio.co.uk My daily drive in listening.... Most of UK still
only gets this on AM . London area gets FM.

James