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Clutch woes, burning the discs?
My family has three cars - a 2003 Civic EX, a 1989 CRX Si, and a 1985
Corolla SR5 - that are all 5 speeds. However, the clutches aren't lasting very long in any of them. They give identical symptoms, a vibration or shimmy as the clutch plate is grabbing. Once the clutch is engaged, its fine and does not slip. My question is, what might be causing this? A particular style of driving? Is the plate being burned (a mechanic has told me this before) or is another part failing? Thanks! |
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Masospaghetti > wrote in news:crfcot$6db$1@news-
int.gatech.edu: > My family has three cars - a 2003 Civic EX, a 1989 CRX Si, and a 1985 > Corolla SR5 - that are all 5 speeds. However, the clutches aren't > lasting very long in any of them. They give identical symptoms, a > vibration or shimmy as the clutch plate is grabbing. Once the clutch is > engaged, its fine and does not slip. My question is, what might be > causing this? A particular style of driving? Is the plate being burned > (a mechanic has told me this before) or is another part failing? > Thanks! A clutch should last well over 100k miles, given proper usage. Sounds as if you have someone who either a) slips the clutch excessively when pulling out, or b) rides around with thier foot on the clutch pedal causing it to be only partially engaged (what I would suspect most). Foot should be on the floorboard, not on the pedal. -- Anthony You can't 'idiot proof' anything....every time you try, they just make better idiots. Remove sp to reply via email |
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lugnut > wrote in
: If that can't be done, gice up on the manual > transmisions and go to automatics - you are wasting all of > your initial investment and fuel saving on clutch > replacements not to mention someone would be very difficult > to read with as a passenger. Other savings related to a clutch: brake jobs. Proper downshifting will lead to brakes lasting a *long* time on a manual transmission vehicle. -- Anthony You can't 'idiot proof' anything....every time you try, they just make better idiots. Remove sp to reply via email |
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"Anthony" > wrote in message ... > lugnut > wrote in > : > > If that can't be done, gice up on the manual > > transmisions and go to automatics - you are wasting all of > > your initial investment and fuel saving on clutch > > replacements not to mention someone would be very difficult > > to read with as a passenger. > > Other savings related to a clutch: brake jobs. Proper downshifting will > lead to brakes lasting a *long* time on a manual transmission vehicle. > > > > -- > Anthony > > You can't 'idiot proof' anything....every time you try, they just make > better idiots. > > Remove sp to reply via email Personally, I'd much rather change brakes than clutch. My wife's Mazda currently has 208K miles on the original clutch (so yes, a properly used clutch can last over 100K miles) but she doesn't downshift throught the gears at every stop sign......... If she did, I'm sure it would have been shot by the 100K miles mark.... bb |
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"bob" > wrote in message ... > > "Anthony" > wrote in message > ... > > lugnut > wrote in > > : > > > > If that can't be done, gice up on the manual > > > transmisions and go to automatics - you are wasting all of > > > your initial investment and fuel saving on clutch > > > replacements not to mention someone would be very difficult > > > to read with as a passenger. > > > > Other savings related to a clutch: brake jobs. Proper downshifting will > > lead to brakes lasting a *long* time on a manual transmission vehicle. > > > > > > > > -- > > Anthony > > > > You can't 'idiot proof' anything....every time you try, they just make > > better idiots. > > > > Remove sp to reply via email > > Personally, I'd much rather change brakes than clutch. My wife's Mazda > currently has 208K miles on the original clutch (so yes, a properly used > clutch can last over 100K miles) but she doesn't downshift throught the > gears at every stop sign......... If she did, I'm sure it would have been > shot by the 100K miles mark.... > > bb > > Oh yeah, to the original poster, if all 3 cars are having similar clutch problems and they are worn out when replace, I'd agree that one of the drivers is toasting the clutches unless you are towing something. Leaking main seal can cause the jerky engagement as oil can drip on the clutch disk but this would be obvious when the clutch was pulled. |
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Symptomatic of a glazed clutch disc, probably caused by over-heating,
although getting a little oil on the disc can cause the same thing. Excessive slipping of the clutch, either poor technique in starting or riding the clutch in general. Like everyone else, I will say that clutches can last a long time. I've never actually replaced a clutch in a car that I've owned, I have a Hyundai with 180K on it right now. My driving advice is use the brakes for stopping the car, shift only when you are going to drive in that new gear (no down-shifting through the gears when stopping), and don't slip the clutch or use high rpms when starting to move. Brian "Masospaghetti" > wrote in message ... > My family has three cars - a 2003 Civic EX, a 1989 CRX Si, and a 1985 > Corolla SR5 - that are all 5 speeds. However, the clutches aren't > lasting very long in any of them. They give identical symptoms, a > vibration or shimmy as the clutch plate is grabbing. Once the clutch is > engaged, its fine and does not slip. My question is, what might be > causing this? A particular style of driving? Is the plate being burned > (a mechanic has told me this before) or is another part failing? > Thanks! |
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That implies someone is driving with their foot on the pedal causing
slip which glazes things. One other cause of judder when starting is worn engine or tranny mounts, but on all 3?.... I guess, if one driver is a 'snappy' clutch person and drives them hard or aggressively, the mounts could also be worn on all 3. Any 18 year old drivers? ;-) Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Masospaghetti wrote: > > My family has three cars - a 2003 Civic EX, a 1989 CRX Si, and a 1985 > Corolla SR5 - that are all 5 speeds. However, the clutches aren't > lasting very long in any of them. They give identical symptoms, a > vibration or shimmy as the clutch plate is grabbing. Once the clutch is > engaged, its fine and does not slip. My question is, what might be > causing this? A particular style of driving? Is the plate being burned > (a mechanic has told me this before) or is another part failing? > Thanks! |
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Alex Rodriguez > wrote in
: > In article >, > says... > >>Other savings related to a clutch: brake jobs. Proper downshifting >>will lead to brakes lasting a *long* time on a manual transmission >>vehicle. > > Hmm, would I rather change a clutch or change a set of brakes????? > What to do what to do? Unless it is absolutely necessary, don't use > your clutch as a braking mechanism. Brakes are both easier and > cheaper to change than a clutch. > -------------- > Alex > > Odd...I get about 150-200k on a clutch...and around 100-120K on a a set of brakes. But...I learned how to *really* drive a manual shift in big trucks, that did not have syncros. You don't 'slip' the clutch when downshifting, you match the engine rpm to the road speed/gear and then allow the engine to decelerate. A clutch really isn't needed at all, until you need to stop. -- Anthony You can't 'idiot proof' anything....every time you try, they just make better idiots. Remove sp to reply via email |
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Thanks all for the advice!
I am probably the most aggressive driver in the family but I don't let it slip much and have ridden the habit of riding the clutch many cars ago. Our family doesn't drive manuals for the cost savings...its simply because we like it better. However, I'm going to have to do some interrogating or something..because this is getting rediculous. Mike Romain wrote: > That implies someone is driving with their foot on the pedal causing > slip which glazes things. > > One other cause of judder when starting is worn engine or tranny mounts, > but on all 3?.... I guess, if one driver is a 'snappy' clutch person > and drives them hard or aggressively, the mounts could also be worn on > all 3. Any 18 year old drivers? ;-) > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Masospaghetti wrote: > >>My family has three cars - a 2003 Civic EX, a 1989 CRX Si, and a 1985 >>Corolla SR5 - that are all 5 speeds. However, the clutches aren't >>lasting very long in any of them. They give identical symptoms, a >>vibration or shimmy as the clutch plate is grabbing. Once the clutch is >>engaged, its fine and does not slip. My question is, what might be >>causing this? A particular style of driving? Is the plate being burned >>(a mechanic has told me this before) or is another part failing? >>Thanks! |
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