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Malt_Hound wrote: > > Perhaps, but somehow going from a linear mechanical display of oil level > (aka dipstick) to a binary indication (idiot light) does not seem like > progress to me... Especially considering BMW's ****ty electrical systems. I wouldn't trust one of their dials for something like this, ever. Besides, pulling out an oil dipstick is something all men are supposed to enjoy. There's nothing like pulling that stick out, and feeling and eyeballing that oil between the thumb and index finger, right? -- Cliff |
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In article hington.edu>,
Jon Blake > wrote: > > I'm happy to see the dipstick go. When last did you dip your fuel tank > > to know the level? ;-) > > > <<< SNIP >>> > I think this is a flawed analogy. If you run out of gas because of a > faulty gauge/warning light, your engine will stop, perhaps > inconveniently, and you will undoubtedly stress your fuel pump. If your > oil sensor fails, your engine can fail, a much worse situation. Call me > old fashion, but I just can't see not having a way to physically check > oil levels. The low oil level light does that for you. -- *Remember: First you pillage, then you burn. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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daytripper > wrote: > >I'm happy to see the dipstick go. When last did you dip your fuel tank > >to know the level? ;-) > Cute but lame. > So, does this device show the inevitable post-service over-filled > condition? A main dealer puts a measured amount of oil in from his bulk supply. If you're changing the oil yourself, you too should do just this. Of course if you rely on an instant service place then that's up to you. But tell me, how do you rectify this 'inevitable post-service overfill'? -- *When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In article hington.edu>,
Jon Blake > wrote: > If you run out of gas because of a faulty gauge/warning light, your > engine will stop, perhaps inconveniently, and you will undoubtedly > stress your fuel pump. If your oil sensor fails, your engine can fail, > a much worse situation. Call me old fashion, but I just can't see not > having a way to physically check oil levels. How do you check the oil levels in your gearbox and final drive? Failures of either of these would be an equally catastrophic event. And I'm old enough to remember these too having dipsticks. -- *Middle age is when work is a lot less fun - and fun a lot more work. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Tue, 24 May 2005, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article hington.edu>, > Jon Blake > wrote: >>> I'm happy to see the dipstick go. When last did you dip your fuel tank >>> to know the level? ;-) >>> >> <<< SNIP >>> > >> I think this is a flawed analogy. If you run out of gas because of a >> faulty gauge/warning light, your engine will stop, perhaps >> inconveniently, and you will undoubtedly stress your fuel pump. If your >> oil sensor fails, your engine can fail, a much worse situation. Call me >> old fashion, but I just can't see not having a way to physically check >> oil levels. > > The low oil level light does that for you. I guess I'm not clear. I worry that the sensor or light itself will fail thereby not warning about low oil level. No way for a dipstick to fail. Only failure is to not check and in that case the miscreant gets what he deserves. Hmmmm, maybe I am a luddite. In fact, I can remember using a stick to measure the amount of gasoline (I should say petrol) in my old MG TD. It had a low gasoline light that was flacky at best and was very difficult to see in the daylight. By the time I had a '53 Jag XK120MC I had a real gas guage, of course then I had the flacky fuel pump oh so conveniently placed underneath the car -- much sport to get out and under and wack it to get it going again. - Jon |
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On Tue, 24 May 2005, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article hington.edu>, > Jon Blake > wrote: >> If you run out of gas because of a faulty gauge/warning light, your >> engine will stop, perhaps inconveniently, and you will undoubtedly >> stress your fuel pump. If your oil sensor fails, your engine can fail, >> a much worse situation. Call me old fashion, but I just can't see not >> having a way to physically check oil levels. > > How do you check the oil levels in your gearbox and final drive? Failures > of either of these would be an equally catastrophic event. And I'm old > enough to remember these too having dipsticks. Actually, this is easy to do. Simply remove the filler plug and confirm that fluid is just at lower edge of hole. While I don't do this with the frequency of cheking my oil, I do check periodically and I support the petroleum industry by replacing tranny and diff fluids every 50K miles, not believing that any lubricant is "lifetime." But then I keep cars for a minimum of 10 years, often more. Usual clutch life in excess of 185K miles. - Jon |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" > writes:
> I'm happy to see the dipstick go. When last did you dip your fuel tank to > know the level? ;-) Foo. Now you actually have to jack up the car to change the oil. ;-( -- Darryl Okahata DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. |
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On Tue, 24 May 2005 20:17:12 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
> wrote: >In article >, > daytripper > wrote: >> >I'm happy to see the dipstick go. When last did you dip your fuel tank >> >to know the level? ;-) > >> Cute but lame. > >> So, does this device show the inevitable post-service over-filled >> condition? > >A main dealer puts a measured amount of oil in from his bulk supply. If >you're changing the oil yourself, you too should do just this. > >Of course if you rely on an instant service place then that's up to you. > >But tell me, how do you rectify this 'inevitable post-service overfill'? First, you check the dipstick when you get the car back - from Audi main line service... |
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John Burns wrote:
>> I'm guessing its like the CSL with a "digital dipstick" on the OBC >> which shows the level to .1l (I think). > > That I can live with. Until it breaks (seen loads of 15+ year old BMWs > with faulty oil level idiot lights). Dipsticks tend not to break, and > I imagine they're cheaper. Many of the 15 year old BMWs I've seen have nothing electrical still working, but at least the dipstick still does. Heck, you can drive most of them *another* 200k in that condition, and then some. Matt O. |
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