Re-Installing N2003?

Good suggestion, I do not believe I had 3d sound checked by default, I will
check it when I get back in town on Thursday.

Thanks,

Don


"Bonz" > wrote in message
...
> Brother had same problem....make sure 3d sounds has a check mark in it
> "Don Burnette" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Thanks Glen.
> >
> > I have been considering going ahead and upgrading to the X-Fi card, and
I
> > may go ahead and do so, and see if solving this is a nice side benefit
to
> > it.. I am running the latest drivers for the Audigy 2 card.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Don
> >
> >
> >
> > "Glen Pittman" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Hello Don,
> > >
> > > I had the same issue after my last motherboard upgrade. I went from
an
> > > EPoX NV2 Ultra based board to a MSI NV4 based board to go to the PCIe
> > > Video Card (X1900XTX) and was using a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 card as
> well.
> > > I could run a practice session for 30 laps or so, then exit the car to
> > > where the replay would be showing. I would get the high pitched
sounds,
> > > and then the eventual lockup (usually not more than 10 -15 seconds
later
> > > at most). I searched all over the internet, and found mention of a
few
> > > cases where the SB card was the problem, and using the newer cards
> solved
> > > the issues. (I did know the model numbers to avoid, but I can't find
it
> at
> > > the moment). I didn't have any issues with other games, only NR2003
> > >
> > > I have since upgraded to the SB X-Fi card, and all is well. I had one
> > > other person tell me that they also upgraded to cure the same issue,
but
> > > theirs still occurs. So I don't know for sure if the newest card
would
> > > help or not, but it did cure my issue, which sounds almost identical
to
> > > yours. I am not running a X2 cpu on my board though. I am using an
> AMD64
> > > 4000+, so I am not sure that the X2 part of your equation would have
> > > anything to do with it.
> > >
> > > Glen Pittman
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Don Burnette" > wrote in message
> > > news > > >> Ok, I have installed N2003 and updated to 1.2.0.1
> > >> I am running, on an Athlon X2 4400+ , 2gb ram, Radeon X850XT PCIe 256
> mb
> > >> video card, Audigy 2 ZS soundcard,
> > >> Windows XP Pro SP2 with all udpates.
> > >>
> > >> I have not, as of yet, applied the AMD or Microsoft updates,
mentioned
> > >> below.
> > >>
> > >> Have run into some problems.
> > >>
> > >> After installing and updating to 1.2.0.1, upon initial launch, the
game
> > >> would freeze on the intro sequence. I deleted the intro.bik file, and
> it
> > >> started up fine.
> > >>
> > >> After setting up for my MS FFB usb wheel, and setting graphics
options
> to
> > >> high, loaded up Daytona in testing mode. Frame rate wise, getting
> around
> > >> 145 fps in testing mode.
> > >>
> > >> When exiting the track, the game locks up. One time it didn't, and
the
> > >> short replay clip it showed, the car sounded very high pitched, like
a
> F1
> > >> car. Shortly after, when switching screens, it locked up again. Does
> not
> > >> crash to desktop, just freezes, no sound, no nothing. Have to power
the
> > >> pc off and power it back on.
> > >>
> > >> Any ideas? So far, have only tried running in d3d mode.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Don
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Larry" > wrote in message
> > >> news:AsVqg.51972$fG3.44434@dukeread09...
> > >>> No, not at all.
> > >>>
> > >>> See this thread:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> http://www.hardforum.com/showthread....=amd+dual-core
> > >>>
> > >>> -Larry
> > >>>
> > >>> "Don Burnette" > wrote in message
> > >>> ...
> > >>>> Hmm, I think so, not for sure.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Isn't, the amd update, just for cool and quiet ?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Don
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> "Larry" > wrote in message
> > >>>> news:r_Oqg.51874$fG3.38@dukeread09...
> > >>>>> First the system.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Have you installed the AMD and Microsoft patches for Dual-Core
> > >>>>> systems?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> If not, you'll get VERY choppy operation out of NR2003.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -Larry
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> "Don Burnette" > wrote in message
> > >>>>> ...
> > >>>>>>A few months ago, I built a new dual core AMD based socket 939
> system.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I want to re-install N2003 by Papyrus , what and where should I
> look
> > >>>>>> for, in regards to updating a clean, new install of this sim?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> Don
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

I never tried the onboard sound, since i have the audigy 2 ZS, have overall
been very pleased with it's performance, and I always heard onboard sound
eats more cpu cycles.



--
Don

"PlowBoy" > wrote in message
news:MBusg.18209$f76.317@dukeread06...
> Question, since you have the Nforce4 chipset, was the onboard sound that
> bad (or non existant?) all the boards I was looking to upgrade to have
> onboard sound for the nvidia amd boards... confused, yea probably my
> part...
> Don Burnette enlightened us with:
>> A few months ago, I built a new dual core AMD based socket 939 system.
>>
>> I want to re-install N2003 by Papyrus , what and where should I look
>> for, in regards to updating a clean, new install of this sim?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Don
>
>

Ok, got back in town, and made some changes.

1: Installed the amd and winxp dual core patches/udpates Larry recommended.
Also noticed, there was a new dual core optimization update there as well,
not sure what it does, but went ahead
and installed it as well.

2: Checked 3d audio Bonz recommended.

Just went and ran a 20% dega, ran great , performance is excellent, and no
lock ups.

Thanks guys!



--
Don



"Bonz" > wrote in message
...
> Brother had same problem....make sure 3d sounds has a check mark in it
> "Don Burnette" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Thanks Glen.
>>
>> I have been considering going ahead and upgrading to the X-Fi card, and I
>> may go ahead and do so, and see if solving this is a nice side benefit to
>> it.. I am running the latest drivers for the Audigy 2 card.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Don
>>
>>
>>
>> "Glen Pittman" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Hello Don,
>> >
>> > I had the same issue after my last motherboard upgrade. I went from an
>> > EPoX NV2 Ultra based board to a MSI NV4 based board to go to the PCIe
>> > Video Card (X1900XTX) and was using a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 card as
> well.
>> > I could run a practice session for 30 laps or so, then exit the car to
>> > where the replay would be showing. I would get the high pitched
>> > sounds,
>> > and then the eventual lockup (usually not more than 10 -15 seconds
>> > later
>> > at most). I searched all over the internet, and found mention of a
>> > few
>> > cases where the SB card was the problem, and using the newer cards
> solved
>> > the issues. (I did know the model numbers to avoid, but I can't find it
> at
>> > the moment). I didn't have any issues with other games, only NR2003
>> >
>> > I have since upgraded to the SB X-Fi card, and all is well. I had one
>> > other person tell me that they also upgraded to cure the same issue,
>> > but
>> > theirs still occurs. So I don't know for sure if the newest card would
>> > help or not, but it did cure my issue, which sounds almost identical to
>> > yours. I am not running a X2 cpu on my board though. I am using an
> AMD64
>> > 4000+, so I am not sure that the X2 part of your equation would have
>> > anything to do with it.
>> >
>> > Glen Pittman
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Don Burnette" > wrote in message
>> > news >> >> Ok, I have installed N2003 and updated to 1.2.0.1
>> >> I am running, on an Athlon X2 4400+ , 2gb ram, Radeon X850XT PCIe 256
> mb
>> >> video card, Audigy 2 ZS soundcard,
>> >> Windows XP Pro SP2 with all udpates.
>> >>
>> >> I have not, as of yet, applied the AMD or Microsoft updates, mentioned
>> >> below.
>> >>
>> >> Have run into some problems.
>> >>
>> >> After installing and updating to 1.2.0.1, upon initial launch, the
>> >> game
>> >> would freeze on the intro sequence. I deleted the intro.bik file, and
> it
>> >> started up fine.
>> >>
>> >> After setting up for my MS FFB usb wheel, and setting graphics options
> to
>> >> high, loaded up Daytona in testing mode. Frame rate wise, getting
> around
>> >> 145 fps in testing mode.
>> >>
>> >> When exiting the track, the game locks up. One time it didn't, and the
>> >> short replay clip it showed, the car sounded very high pitched, like a
> F1
>> >> car. Shortly after, when switching screens, it locked up again. Does
> not
>> >> crash to desktop, just freezes, no sound, no nothing. Have to power
>> >> the
>> >> pc off and power it back on.
>> >>
>> >> Any ideas? So far, have only tried running in d3d mode.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Don
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Larry" > wrote in message
>> >> news:AsVqg.51972$fG3.44434@dukeread09...
>> >>> No, not at all.
>> >>>
>> >>> See this thread:
>> >>>
>> >>>
> http://www.hardforum.com/showthread....=amd+dual-core
>> >>>
>> >>> -Larry
>> >>>
>> >>> "Don Burnette" > wrote in message
>> >>> ...
>> >>>> Hmm, I think so, not for sure.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Isn't, the amd update, just for cool and quiet ?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Don
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "Larry" > wrote in message
>> >>>> news:r_Oqg.51874$fG3.38@dukeread09...
>> >>>>> First the system.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Have you installed the AMD and Microsoft patches for Dual-Core
>> >>>>> systems?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> If not, you'll get VERY choppy operation out of NR2003.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -Larry
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "Don Burnette" > wrote in message
>> >>>>> ...
>> >>>>>>A few months ago, I built a new dual core AMD based socket 939
> system.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I want to re-install N2003 by Papyrus , what and where should I
> look
>> >>>>>> for, in regards to updating a clean, new install of this sim?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> Don
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

"Don Burnette" > wrote in
:

> Ok, got back in town, and made some changes.
>
> 1: Installed the amd and winxp dual core patches/udpates Larry
> recommended. Also noticed, there was a new dual core optimization
> update there as well, not sure what it does, but went ahead
> and installed it as well.
>
> 2: Checked 3d audio Bonz recommended.
>
> Just went and ran a 20% dega, ran great , performance is excellent,
> and no lock ups.
>
> Thanks guys!
>
>
>

The funny thing Don, One of the first things I always used to recomend
with ANY Papyrus product that was having problems was to UN-check the 3d
sound option. LOL


dave henrie

"Dave Henrie" > wrote in message
. 97.136...
> "Don Burnette" > wrote in
> :
>
>> Ok, got back in town, and made some changes.
>>
>> 1: Installed the amd and winxp dual core patches/udpates Larry
>> recommended. Also noticed, there was a new dual core optimization
>> update there as well, not sure what it does, but went ahead
>> and installed it as well.
>>
>> 2: Checked 3d audio Bonz recommended.
>>
>> Just went and ran a 20% dega, ran great , performance is excellent,
>> and no lock ups.
>>
>> Thanks guys!
>>
>>
>>
>
> The funny thing Don, One of the first things I always used to recomend
> with ANY Papyrus product that was having problems was to UN-check the 3d
> sound option. LOL
>

Lol, yeah, I remember those days!

Don

I had exactly the same problem with the sound in N2003 after installing on
my new system - Athlon X2 4800+, ASUS A8N-SLI, 2GB RAM, Leadtek Nvidia
7800GTX, Audigy 2ZS. The only way I could get it to run properly was by
disabling the Audigy, and using the onboard sound.
Maybe I should try the patches!!

--

RocketMan
"Don Burnette" > wrote in message
...
>I never tried the onboard sound, since i have the audigy 2 ZS, have overall
>been very pleased with it's performance, and I always heard onboard sound
>eats more cpu cycles.
>
>
>
> --
> Don
>
> "PlowBoy" > wrote in message
> news:MBusg.18209$f76.317@dukeread06...
>> Question, since you have the Nforce4 chipset, was the onboard sound that
>> bad (or non existant?) all the boards I was looking to upgrade to have
>> onboard sound for the nvidia amd boards... confused, yea probably my
>> part...
>> Don Burnette enlightened us with:
>>> A few months ago, I built a new dual core AMD based socket 939 system.
>>>
>>> I want to re-install N2003 by Papyrus , what and where should I look
>>> for, in regards to updating a clean, new install of this sim?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Don
>>
>>
>
>

Well, ymmv, but for the most part it has made mine better, although I have
since had a couple of lockups. Usually, if I pause the sim during a race,
upon unpausing, it crashes. It also has crashed upon exiting the game a
couple of times. Not sure if it is related to the Audigy or not...

Don


"RocketMan" > wrote in message
...
> I had exactly the same problem with the sound in N2003 after installing
on
> my new system - Athlon X2 4800+, ASUS A8N-SLI, 2GB RAM, Leadtek Nvidia
> 7800GTX, Audigy 2ZS. The only way I could get it to run properly was by
> disabling the Audigy, and using the onboard sound.
> Maybe I should try the patches!!
>
> --
>
> RocketMan
> "Don Burnette" > wrote in message
> ...
> >I never tried the onboard sound, since i have the audigy 2 ZS, have
overall
> >been very pleased with it's performance, and I always heard onboard sound
> >eats more cpu cycles.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Don
> >
> > "PlowBoy" > wrote in message
> > news:MBusg.18209$f76.317@dukeread06...
> >> Question, since you have the Nforce4 chipset, was the onboard sound
that
> >> bad (or non existant?) all the boards I was looking to upgrade to have
> >> onboard sound for the nvidia amd boards... confused, yea probably my
> >> part...
> >> Don Burnette enlightened us with:
> >>> A few months ago, I built a new dual core AMD based socket 939 system.
> >>>
> >>> I want to re-install N2003 by Papyrus , what and where should I look
> >>> for, in regards to updating a clean, new install of this sim?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Don
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

"Don Burnette" > wrote in message
...
> Well, ymmv, but for the most part it has made mine better, although I have
> since had a couple of lockups. Usually, if I pause the sim during a race,
> upon unpausing, it crashes. It also has crashed upon exiting the game a
> couple of times. Not sure if it is related to the Audigy or not...
>
> Don

The more I hear your symptoms, the more it sounds like a sound issue. You
might try uninstalling the Audigy in Device Manager and letting it
reinstall. You might even try the onboard sound just for grins and see if
there is any difference.

Ed

"Ed Medlin" > wrote in message
. net...
>
> "Don Burnette" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Well, ymmv, but for the most part it has made mine better, although I
have
> > since had a couple of lockups. Usually, if I pause the sim during a
race,
> > upon unpausing, it crashes. It also has crashed upon exiting the game a
> > couple of times. Not sure if it is related to the Audigy or not...
> >
> > Don
>
> The more I hear your symptoms, the more it sounds like a sound issue. You
> might try uninstalling the Audigy in Device Manager and letting it
> reinstall. You might even try the onboard sound just for grins and see if
> there is any difference.
>
> Ed

Thanks Ed, I may do just that when I get back.
I have been looking for a reason to upgrade to the newer X-FI, and may go
ahead and get one on order in the near future.

Don

"Don Burnette" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ed Medlin" > wrote in message
> . net...
>>
>> "Don Burnette" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Well, ymmv, but for the most part it has made mine better, although I
> have
>> > since had a couple of lockups. Usually, if I pause the sim during a
> race,
>> > upon unpausing, it crashes. It also has crashed upon exiting the game a
>> > couple of times. Not sure if it is related to the Audigy or not...
>> >
>> > Don
>>
>> The more I hear your symptoms, the more it sounds like a sound issue. You
>> might try uninstalling the Audigy in Device Manager and letting it
>> reinstall. You might even try the onboard sound just for grins and see if
>> there is any difference.
>>
>> Ed
>
> Thanks Ed, I may do just that when I get back.
> I have been looking for a reason to upgrade to the newer X-FI, and may go
> ahead and get one on order in the near future.
>
> Don
>

Ok, am back in town now.

I believe, I have a couple of issues here.
First, the overall stability of my system. I have been getting, on occasion,
some lockups. Usually, while perusing newsgroups or the web.
The frequency, seems to have been reduced, since installing the amd and Ms
dual core patches.
However, I have had a sneaky suspicion, part of that problem might be from
the power supply. My new mb, has a 24 pin connector, and my power supply,
only had 20 pin. ( not the additional 4 pin that goes beside the 20). While
the mb manual, states that a 20 will work properly if oriented correctly, I
will feel better having the full 24 pins in, so I ordered and have received
a new Antec 550 watt power supply, with the 20 + 4 pin connector. Have not
installed yet, but will sometime today.

Secondly, I believe like Ed mentions, I have a sound issue as well. I have
been wanting to upgrage to the Creative X-Fi, just needed an excuse, and I
guess this is a good enough one. Hopefully, it will help in that area.
Newegg had the Creative X-Fi Xtreme music for about 85 bucks, so I went
ahead and ordered one today, should be here next week.

I will let y'all know, if these help my issues.

Thanks to all for all the great feedback,

Don