Bush's call for "more diesel"

66 6F HCS wrote:
> There's a local guy here in Denver who converts engines to run on the
used
> oil from the fryers at McDonald's, Burger King, et al. The exhaust
smells
> like whatever was fried in the oil. Fries, chicken, fish, whatever.
lol.
> --

With very few emissions, I may add.

Actually, it's not that hard. After that french fry (FF) oil gets to
~170 degrees, the diesel engine will burn it like the regular stuff.
Most of those cars just have two fuel tanks, a small one with regular
diesel and a larger tank with the FF oil. Start the car on regular
diesel, heat up the FF oil with the engine heat and then just switch
the fuel over. Most of these cars are a novelty though. Can you imagine
taking a cross country trip without knowing where to stop to get your
fuel?

BTW, my next project will be experimenting with an '82 Chevette diesel
with a five speed. I'm not going to make it a french fry burner, I just
want to drop in a late model Isuzu 3 cyl diesel. Hmmmm, now maybe with
a turbo...........

On Sat, 07 May 2005 18:39:57 -0400, RichA > wrote:

>That's all we frigging need. Roads choking with
>clouds of diesel soot because some people are too
>cheap to buy a gas-powered vehicle. Do yourselves
>a favour; Go buy some Jap electro-gas hybrid and SPARE
> the rest of us the fumes. It's bad enough with regular
>trucks on the road. Everytime some retard with a diesel
>crapo Volkswagon gets in front of me, I wish I had on-board
>missle launchers like James Bond.
>-Rich
you really are a focktard

hurc ast

Bad. It turns my stomach just to drive through an area packed with
those joint who probably haven't changed their cooking oil in a while.
On a summer day the who area smells rancid. And now it's gonna be the
vehicle sitting next to you in stalled traffic on the I-5? gonna play
hell with the dieters!

On Sat, 7 May 2005 18:34:23 -0600, "66 6F HCS"
> wrote:

>
>"Jim Warman" > wrote
>> Currently, there are many experimenting with diesels run only on vegetable
>> oils.
>
>There's a local guy here in Denver who converts engines to run on the used
>oil from the fryers at McDonald's, Burger King, et al. The exhaust smells
>like whatever was fried in the oil. Fries, chicken, fish, whatever. lol.

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In article >, Michael Johnson, PE
> wrote:

> Ouch! I guess I'm 10 years behind the times then.

You also have to take local gas taxes into account. I believe much of
the EU has enormous gas taxes.

Tax or no tax, you're still paying what you pay. Just like in
California. I makes no difference what the state tax and the fed tax
are, I still have to pay whatever the pump price is.

On Sat, 07 May 2005 22:39:32 -0700, Quiet Desperation
> wrote:

>In article >, Michael Johnson, PE
> wrote:
>
>> Ouch! I guess I'm 10 years behind the times then.
>
>You also have to take local gas taxes into account. I believe much of
>the EU has enormous gas taxes.

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Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior
Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8"
w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16

I had an Isuzu 4x4 diesel truck. It was great. First because it only
cost be $4K brand new. Second because that think could haul. Besides
being able to go just about anywhere, I could actually wind it up and
scratch the tires. Never had a problem with it either, aside from the
water separator got clogged once. Like a Timex watch, it took a
lickin' an' kept on tickin'.

On 7 May 2005 20:03:50 -0700, "Kruse" > wrote:

>
>66 6F HCS wrote:
>> There's a local guy here in Denver who converts engines to run on the
>used
>> oil from the fryers at McDonald's, Burger King, et al. The exhaust
>smells
>> like whatever was fried in the oil. Fries, chicken, fish, whatever.
>lol.
>> --
>
>With very few emissions, I may add.
>
>Actually, it's not that hard. After that french fry (FF) oil gets to
>~170 degrees, the diesel engine will burn it like the regular stuff.
>Most of those cars just have two fuel tanks, a small one with regular
>diesel and a larger tank with the FF oil. Start the car on regular
>diesel, heat up the FF oil with the engine heat and then just switch
>the fuel over. Most of these cars are a novelty though. Can you imagine
>taking a cross country trip without knowing where to stop to get your
>fuel?
>
>BTW, my next project will be experimenting with an '82 Chevette diesel
>with a five speed. I'm not going to make it a french fry burner, I just
>want to drop in a late model Isuzu 3 cyl diesel. Hmmmm, now maybe with
>a turbo...........

Hey! Spikey Likes IT!
1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok
Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior
Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8"
w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16

Considering those videos I've seen floating around where TT'd F350s
and Cummins blow away Mustangs, Camaros, and 'Vettes, I'm interested!


"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in
:

> Considering the diesel's compression ratio you and I should love a
hot
> rodded version. It would be a torque monster. Hmmm... maybe a twin
> screw blower would be a good addition.
>
> Joe wrote:
>> Add a couple of turbos and we're back in the game!
>>
>>
>> "Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>
>>>I watched a show on the Science Channel the other day where a guy
is
>>>working on a process of turning landfill garbage into an equivalent
>>>of diesel fuel. They could take darn near anything from organics
to
>>>tires to feed their contraption. They wouldn't tell the specifics
>>>of the process but said they basically mimic mother nature's method
>>>of creating crude oil. They just made the time frame much shorter.
>>>They said the net energy resulting from the process was very
>>>promising and would get better as they tweaked the machinery.
>>>
>>>It would be great if we end up mining our own garbage to turn it
>>>into diesel fuel.
>

If we would all make it clear that high gasoline taxes are unacceptable
and vote accordingly then those taxes would vanish very quickly.

Spike wrote:
> Tax or no tax, you're still paying what you pay. Just like in
> California. I makes no difference what the state tax and the fed tax
> are, I still have to pay whatever the pump price is.
>
> On Sat, 07 May 2005 22:39:32 -0700, Quiet Desperation
> > wrote:
>
>
>>In article >, Michael Johnson, PE
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Ouch! I guess I'm 10 years behind the times then.
>>
>>You also have to take local gas taxes into account. I believe much of
>>the EU has enormous gas taxes.
>
>
> Hey! Spikey Likes IT!
> 1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok
> Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior
> Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8"
> w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16

On Sun, 08 May 2005 00:06:32 GMT, "Jim Warman"
> wrote:

>At this point in time, the diesel, belive it or not, is considered as the
>powerplant of the future (fuels cells aside). I know of bio-diesel mixtures
>that are along the lines of 20% vegetable oil and I'm reasonably sure that
>there are fuels available with even higher concentrations of vegetable oil
>in them.
>
>Currently, there are many experimenting with diesels run only on vegetable
>oils.
>
>What you need to direct your anger towards are those diesel owners that chip
>the bejiggers out of their trucks defeating every emission and anti-puff
>strategy the manufacturers have to offer.
>
>Jim Warman
>Ford Senior Tech
>Diesel Certified....
>
>f*ck off, hurc.
>
>

diesel is cleaner burning than gasoline
as well as packing more power per molecule

hurc ast

On 7 May 2005 20:03:50 -0700, "Kruse" > wrote:

>
>66 6F HCS wrote:
>> There's a local guy here in Denver who converts engines to run on the
>used
>> oil from the fryers at McDonald's, Burger King, et al. The exhaust
>smells
>> like whatever was fried in the oil. Fries, chicken, fish, whatever.
>lol.
>> --
>
>With very few emissions, I may add.
>
>Actually, it's not that hard. After that french fry (FF) oil gets to
>~170 degrees, the diesel engine will burn it like the regular stuff.
>Most of those cars just have two fuel tanks, a small one with regular
>diesel and a larger tank with the FF oil. Start the car on regular
>diesel, heat up the FF oil with the engine heat and then just switch
>the fuel over. Most of these cars are a novelty though. Can you imagine
>taking a cross country trip without knowing where to stop to get your
>fuel?

And that's the point; Nitwits jump at any crack-pop idea without a
thought at to it's true viability. IF they took the refuse from
every restaurant in a city and converted it, it "might" become a
viable and widely available fuel source. But then I'd have to know
the volumes to make any kind of reasonable assumption about it.
As it is, it makes about as much sense as "hydrogen fueling" which
costs MORE in conventional energy to make than any reduction in
emissions it achieves.
-Rich