Attention Dave "LLB" Head

Scott en Aztlán wrote:

> Enjoy, and I hope you learn something.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3pfbo

Gee, I sometimes wish the roads were as flat and straight around here as
they are in that video. How fast were you going in the first part,
because a lot of drivers were passing you.

Scott en Aztlán wrote:
> Dear Dave,
>
> In an earlier post, I opined that you needed a "ride-along" with a
> competent driver so you could see that it is possible to drive
> properly and still be free of ducklings. Since I probably won't ever
> get the chance to give you that ride-along for real, I'll offer you
> the next best thing: a *virtual* ride-along.
>
> As you watch the following video, you'll notice the following:
>
> * I always Keep Right Except To Pass
> * I never once have even a single duckling latch onto me
> * There are a hell of a lot of LLBs out there
>
> Enjoy, and I hope you learn something.

Interesting. You kept passing and being passed by the same vehicles--for
example that asshole LLB in the Honda mini-SUV. Why?

Anyway, what Dave will learn from your video is that the best strategy
is to stick to the left lane. It is obviously less work.

On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 11:52:46 GMT, 223rem > wrote:

<snip>
>Anyway, what Dave will learn from your video is that the best strategy
>is to stick to the left lane. It is obviously less work.
what i see is a bunch of city drivers cruising in the country.
passing and being passed. usually when i get in a
pack like this, i take a chance, pick up the pace
a bit and leave them behind.

and you were ducking into the right hand lane
too many times. creating all kinds of traffic
turbulence and risk. as for passing that flatbed
on the right at the 1 minute mark, well, we all do
it but we shouldn't brag about it.
....thehick

frank-in-toronto wrote:

> and you were ducking into the right hand lane
> too many times. creating all kinds of traffic
> turbulence and risk.

How is returning to the right lane creating "traffic turbulance and
risk?" Keep in mind that the video is recorded at a lower frame rate
and that makes things look a lot faster than they actually are.

Besides, by returning to the right lane, people were able to pass him on
the left. Did you notice anyone in the video passing the driver on the
right?

On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 17:00:53 GMT, Arif Khokar >
wrote:

>frank-in-toronto wrote:
>
>> and you were ducking into the right hand lane
>> too many times. creating all kinds of traffic
>> turbulence and risk.
>
>How is returning to the right lane creating "traffic turbulance and
>risk?"
<snip>
just my perspective, but a car in front of me changing lanes
all the time creates uncertainty in my mind. i don't know
that the driver is SUCH A PRO as we are assuming or is just a jerk
fooling around. to me that creates risk. i pass them quick and
leave them behind.
>Besides, by returning to the right lane, people were able to pass him on
>the left. Did you notice anyone in the video passing the driver on the
>right?
nope. passing on the right isn't the end of the world anyway. just
do it smoothly so the driver being passed knows you're there.
if it's illegal in the state/province, then you're stuck.
....thehick

frank-in-toronto wrote:

> On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 17:00:53 GMT, Arif Khokar >
> wrote:

>>How is returning to the right lane creating "traffic turbulance and
>>risk?"

> just my perspective, but a car in front of me changing lanes
> all the time creates uncertainty in my mind.

Why? Usually, if a car is changing lanes, and is ahead of you, then
he's going faster than you and should be out of your visual range in the
next few minutes. If he's behind you, then you know he's going to pass
you on the left when he catches up to you.

> i don't know that the driver is SUCH A PRO

Keeping right except to pass doesn't require much skill.

> as we are assuming or is just a jerk fooling around.

I don't see anything wrong with the way he drove as shown in the video.

> to me that creates risk.

Could you elaborate?

> i pass them quick and leave them behind.

Which isn't a problem when everyone keeps right except to pass.

>>Besides, by returning to the right lane, people were able to pass him on
>>the left. Did you notice anyone in the video passing the driver on the
>>right?

> nope. passing on the right isn't the end of the world anyway.

No. Slower drivers shouldn't have to worry about drivers passing them
on both sides. It's easier to keep track of things when you limit
passing to left side only.

In article >, frank-in-toronto wrote:

> just my perspective, but a car in front of me changing lanes
> all the time creates uncertainty in my mind. i don't know
> that the driver is SUCH A PRO as we are assuming or is just a jerk
> fooling around. to me that creates risk. i pass them quick and
> leave them behind.

The problem with not changing lanes back to the rign is creates a great
deal of turbulence as traffic tries to go around the non-moving driver.

keep right except to pass insures that the person changing lanes to the
right is going faster than those they are moving in front of. Thusly, no
risk of collision and no turblence. Turblence is caused by the
willy-nilly any-speed in any lane and people who just plant themselves.

frank-in-toronto wrote:

> On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 17:00:53 GMT, Arif Khokar >
> wrote:

>>How is returning to the right lane creating "traffic turbulance and
>>risk?"

> just my perspective, but a car in front of me changing lanes
> all the time creates uncertainty in my mind.

Why? Usually, if a car is changing lanes, and is ahead of you, then
he's going faster than you and should be out of your visual range in the
next few minutes. If he's behind you, then you know he's going to pass
you on the left when he catches up to you.

> i don't know that the driver is SUCH A PRO

Keeping right except to pass doesn't require much skill.

> as we are assuming or is just a jerk fooling around.

I don't see anything wrong with the way he drove as shown in the video.

> to me that creates risk.

Could you elaborate?

> i pass them quick and leave them behind.

Which isn't a problem when everyone keeps right except to pass.

>>Besides, by returning to the right lane, people were able to pass him on
>>the left. Did you notice anyone in the video passing the driver on the
>>right?

> nope. passing on the right isn't the end of the world anyway.

No. Slower drivers shouldn't have to worry about drivers passing them
on both sides. It's easier to keep track of things when you limit
passing to left side only.

In article >, frank-in-toronto wrote:

> just my perspective, but a car in front of me changing lanes
> all the time creates uncertainty in my mind. i don't know
> that the driver is SUCH A PRO as we are assuming or is just a jerk
> fooling around. to me that creates risk. i pass them quick and
> leave them behind.

The problem with not changing lanes back to the rign is creates a great
deal of turbulence as traffic tries to go around the non-moving driver.

keep right except to pass insures that the person changing lanes to the
right is going faster than those they are moving in front of. Thusly, no
risk of collision and no turblence. Turblence is caused by the
willy-nilly any-speed in any lane and people who just plant themselves.

On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 17:00:53 GMT, Arif Khokar >
wrote:

>frank-in-toronto wrote:
>
>> and you were ducking into the right hand lane
>> too many times. creating all kinds of traffic
>> turbulence and risk.
>
>How is returning to the right lane creating "traffic turbulance and
>risk?"
<snip>
just my perspective, but a car in front of me changing lanes
all the time creates uncertainty in my mind. i don't know
that the driver is SUCH A PRO as we are assuming or is just a jerk
fooling around. to me that creates risk. i pass them quick and
leave them behind.
>Besides, by returning to the right lane, people were able to pass him on
>the left. Did you notice anyone in the video passing the driver on the
>right?
nope. passing on the right isn't the end of the world anyway. just
do it smoothly so the driver being passed knows you're there.
if it's illegal in the state/province, then you're stuck.
....thehick