USURPER floats plan to tax cars by the mile

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=307239
cuhulin

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> http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=307239
> cuhulin

It's been suggested many times before, and is more relevant recently
with the appearance of more and more alternate vehicle fuels. There is
nothing wrong with a tax per mile for road use and thus road
maintenance, as long as all the current taxes on fuels which are
supposed to pay for road maintenance are eliminated.

On 2011-05-05, Pete C. > wrote:
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>> http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=307239
>> cuhulin
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> It's been suggested many times before, and is more relevant recently
> with the appearance of more and more alternate vehicle fuels. There is
> nothing wrong with a tax per mile for road use and thus road
> maintenance, as long as all the current taxes on fuels which are
> supposed to pay for road maintenance are eliminated.

Current taxes will not be eliminated. And the new tax system will be
used for greater control and/or monitoring of people's movements. It
will also be useful as the CO2/global warming scammers gain more
ground. It will be sold on the pretense that roads are crumbling and
today's higher mpg cars don't result in enough tax revenue. It will be
sold under the climate change scam as well.

They have already been using creative math for that narrative. It will
continue as the neglected infrastructure decays further and more road
funds are diverted to other purposes. The poor quality work by
politically connected contractors will not be discussed. The damage done
by heavy trucks will also not be discussed. We will be told how the
average motorist has to pay more, "the true cost of driving", even
though the average motorist already pays far more than the wear-tear his
use causes.

Never mind that for all the money squandered on wars and empire and
bailouts the entire interstate system could be brand new and probably
doubled in lane miles.

On Thu, 05 May 2011 10:19:48 -0500, cuhulin wrote:

> http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=307239 cuhulin


This was banied about a year or so ago. Let 'em try. Hope he tries to
implement this before his defeat next November.

On Thu, 05 May 2011 15:17:52 -0500, Pete C. wrote:

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>> http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=307239 cuhulin
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> It's been suggested many times before, and is more relevant recently with
> the appearance of more and more alternate vehicle fuels. There is nothing
> wrong with a tax per mile for road use and thus road maintenance, as long
> as all the current taxes on fuels which are supposed to pay for road
> maintenance are eliminated.


With this spendthrift, that is NOT going to happen. He needs to fund his
healthcare plan.

On Thu, 05 May 2011 10:19:48 -0500, cuhulin wrote:

> http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=307239 cuhulin


We already HAVE a Per Mile tax: it's called the Federal Gas Tax. The more
you drive, the more you pay.

But, then again, this guy LOVES taxes.

"Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B" wrote:
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> On Thu, 05 May 2011 10:19:48 -0500, cuhulin wrote:
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> > http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=307239 cuhulin
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> We already HAVE a Per Mile tax: it's called the Federal Gas Tax. The more
> you drive, the more you pay.

That worked when everyone used gas or diesel. Now with electric,
home-brew bio-diesel and the like, some people are using the roads
without paying the taxes that are supposed to maintain them.

I am listening to my favorite radio talk show.A guy told the talk show
host that overnight the price of gas at an Exxon gas station in his area
dropped from $3.79 to $3.59 a gallon.What it is, the Exxon gas station
is trying to compete with a Kroger store across the street.
cuhulin

On 2011-05-06, Pete C. > wrote:
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> "Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B" wrote:
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>> On Thu, 05 May 2011 10:19:48 -0500, cuhulin wrote:
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>> > http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=307239 cuhulin
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>> We already HAVE a Per Mile tax: it's called the Federal Gas Tax. The more
>> you drive, the more you pay.
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> That worked when everyone used gas or diesel. Now with electric,
> home-brew bio-diesel and the like, some people are using the roads
> without paying the taxes that are supposed to maintain them.

First, those make up a trivial amount of road users.

Second, the revenuers do visit the people making their bio-fuels, well
at least they do in Illinois.

Third, Making home brew bio fuels takes time and effort that is for
someone smart enough to make their own bio fuel is generally worth more
than the taxes and fuel. So they have to like to do it. When these
people number more than one out of every million or so road users it
might be a problem worth addressing.

Fourth, electrics require a special charging circuit. Easy enough to
meter that. Could someone by-pass it or charge really slow with a 120V
15A outlet, sure can. They could do the same with their electric service
right now. Few do.

There is simply no reason to track us. One could make the argument for
commerical trucking due to the road damage but that too could be
addressed by other means, probably by using data that is already logged.

All of the cars and trucks I see sitting on the parking lots around here
and the vehicles on the roads and highways and Interstates, I haven't
seen one yet that runs on solar power.There is more than enough crude
oil and natural gas to last us hundreds of years.
cuhulin