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Hey, if you have some time check this guys rant out at www.donotbuydodge.ca

What a dick some times **** just happens, there is a Lemmon Law, one bad
apple does not make all and every product bad of a manufacturer and it
happens in everything manufacturered of every product. It is ashame that
things just happen but that is just life it beats the alternative You don
not see NASA with Do Not Go Into Space painted on the Space Shuttle

--
Coasty

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"Chris Burns" > wrote in message
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> Hey, if you have some time check this guys rant out at
> www.donotbuydodge.ca
>
>

Coasty wrote:
> What a dick some times **** just happens, there is a Lemmon Law, one bad
> apple does not make all and every product bad of a manufacturer and it
> happens in everything manufacturered of every product. It is ashame that
> things just happen but that is just life it beats the alternative You don
> not see NASA with Do Not Go Into Space painted on the Space Shuttle

Here's an excerpt from the "What I Want" page: (boy, am I bored...)

__________________________________________________ ________
To Be Compensated for Suffering and Inconvenience
There is absolutely no reason why a consumer should have to go through
as much trouble as we have to have a manufacturer fix problems that are
so obviously caused by defects in the product. These issues have
caused, and are continuing to cause, an immeasurable amount of
suffering, grief, and inconvenience to me, my family, and to my
business. I request a sum of $100,000 to offset some of this
unnecessary hardship.
__________________________________________________ _________


Yeah, I think $100,000 should help him put aside {[{SOME}]} of this
hardship.

Ridiculous.

Toyota MDT in MO

"Chris Burns" > wrote in message
.. .
> Hey, if you have some time check this guys rant out at
www.donotbuydodge.ca
>
>

From the site:


"...My wife and I leased our van over 4 years ..."

"...the Caravan - approx. $45000 ..."

"...Our four year lease contact is currently scheduled to end in May
2007..."

"..I've been told by CAMVAP that more-than-likely they would order Daimler
Chrysler to buy out my lease. However, the buyback is done according to a
specific formula that cannot be altered. Their formula takes mileage into
account and, as a result, I would end up having to pay Daimler Chrysler
approximately $2000 for them to buy back my lease. My wife and I leased our
van over 4 years knowing that the first year would include a lot of extra
travel, but that our mileage would average out over the four years..."

So my read of it is the following:

1) He can pay $2K and walk away from the remaining 2 year lease obligation
on $45K
2) He can pay the lease for the remaining 2 years and at the end of it have
a vehicle that has no value and is
unsaleable.

Now I will freely confess that I've never leased a $45K car before so I
don't know this - but am I wrong in
assuming that the $2K would cost a heck of a lot less than 2 more years of
leasing this van of his?

Sometimes you just get 2 stinky choices offered to you and you just have to
hold your nose and
take the less stinky of the two.

The other $64 question that isn't answered in the site is why he kept going
back to this dealership that he
thinks is a bunch of losers. He claims they told him when he took the van
to them that it was leaking
because he left a window open - wasn't there a garden hose out there that
he could have had one of their
lot people spray down the minivan with while he and the service advisor sat
inside?

Anyway, I think the real value of this site is that it shows how important
it is for customers of new vehicles
to not settle for bull**** excuses from the service departments of
dealerships, and when there's a problem to
get right on top of getting it fixed.

Ted

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<SNIPPED FOR BREVITY>
2) He can pay the lease for the remaining 2 years and at the end of it
have
a vehicle that has no value and is unsaleable.

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When we leased a vehicle*, at the end of the lease, we had no vehicle,
had to turn it in to Oldsmobile. What kind of a lease is there where
when it has ended, you still have the vehicle?
I applaud Chris Burns for his effort. My experience with Chrysler has
been very similar.

I previously posted, I applaud Chris Burns for his effort. My
experience with Chrysler has been very similar. I misread the post,
Burns was just posting someone else's web site/rant.

Coasty posted:
What a dick some times **** just happens, there is a Lemmon Law,

Hey, if you're gonna call someone a dick, don't be one yourself by
misspelling a very common word. Lemmon???

tomkanpa wrote:

> I previously posted, I applaud Chris Burns for his effort. My
> experience with Chrysler has been very similar. I misread the post,
> Burns was just posting someone else's web site/rant.
>
> Coasty posted:
> What a dick some times **** just happens, there is a Lemmon Law,
>
> Hey, if you're gonna call someone a dick, don't be one yourself by
> misspelling a very common word. Lemmon???
>

You don't know Jack...

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')

"tomkanpa" > wrote in message
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>When we leased a vehicle*, at the end of the lease, we had no vehicle,
>had to turn it in to Oldsmobile. What kind of a lease is there where
>when it has ended, you still have the vehicle?

"Purchase Option Price" is what it's called, see:

http://www.chryslerfinancial.com/account/leaseend.jsp

Basically if you do a lease right,. at the end of the lease you can buy the
vehicle
for less money than what an equivalent would cost from the dealers used car
lot. Obviously you have to pay close attention to all the add-on fees and
drive a certain amount of mileage.

>I applaud Chris Burns for his effort. My experience with Chrysler has
>been very similar.

If so then why are you reading this group, do you still own a Chrysler? And
if
you do, why if you don't like them that much?

Ted

It is interesting that this guy does not have a last name, nor an e-mail
address to contacted him directly. And YES, I would have to agree with the
one posting that says why did he not go to another dealership to resolve his
issue a long time ago. Looks like he has way too much time on his hands to
set up such a elaborate website. But I guess everyone should have a hobby.
And, maybe he could have spent some money talking with a lawyer first.

Just my opinion,
Dan

"Chris Burns" > wrote in message
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> Hey, if you have some time check this guys rant out at
> www.donotbuydodge.ca
>
>

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It is interesting that this guy does not have a last name, nor an
e-mail
address to =A0contacted him directly.

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You can go to:

http://www.donotbuydodge.ca/contact.htm

I wouldn't give my last name though since he never gave his. A last
name and an email address would certainly add a lot of credibilty to
his claim.