Charger

Anyone purchase a new Charger yet? If so, how do you like it so far?

I'm seriously considering purchasing the Daytona (Top Banana) but am a
little hesitant because it may just be a little loud? for me. Perhaps a
regular R/T would be just as good.

Where does the Daytona pick up the extra ponies from over the R/T


Ken
--
"Now Phoebe Snow direct can go
from thirty-third to Buffalo.
From Broadway bright the tubes run right
Into the Road of Anthracite"
Erie - Lackawanna

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:02:33 +0000, NJ Vike wrote:

> Anyone purchase a new Charger yet?

I'm gonna wait for the Challenger, which actually looks something like
it's namesake. 2009, I think...

--
If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
Linux Registered User #327951

If I'm not mistaken, the Daytona does not have a horsepower or torque
difference from the R/T. I think the Daytona is just a cosmetic package.
The HP gain comes with the SRT8 version.

======

"NJ Vike" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Anyone purchase a new Charger yet? If so, how do you like it so far?
>
> I'm seriously considering purchasing the Daytona (Top Banana) but am a
> little hesitant because it may just be a little loud? for me. Perhaps a
> regular R/T would be just as good.
>
> Where does the Daytona pick up the extra ponies from over the R/T
>
>
> Ken
> --
> "Now Phoebe Snow direct can go
> from thirty-third to Buffalo.
> From Broadway bright the tubes run right
> Into the Road of Anthracite"
> Erie - Lackawanna
>
>
>
>

they sell an R/T and a Dayonta R/T
http://www-5.dodge.com/vehsuite/VehicleCompare.jsp

i know a guy in Detroit with one.......getting 20 MPG and loves it. burns
rubber 20 feet minimum. lotta fun to drive for a damn 4 door








"CopperTop" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> If I'm not mistaken, the Daytona does not have a horsepower or torque
> difference from the R/T. I think the Daytona is just a cosmetic package.
> The HP gain comes with the SRT8 version.
>
> ======
>
> "NJ Vike" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
> > Anyone purchase a new Charger yet? If so, how do you like it so far?
> >
> > I'm seriously considering purchasing the Daytona (Top Banana) but am a
> > little hesitant because it may just be a little loud? for me. Perhaps a
> > regular R/T would be just as good.
> >
> > Where does the Daytona pick up the extra ponies from over the R/T
> >
> >
> > Ken
> > --
> > "Now Phoebe Snow direct can go
> > from thirty-third to Buffalo.
> > From Broadway bright the tubes run right
> > Into the Road of Anthracite"
> > Erie - Lackawanna
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

The brochure says 350 compared to the R/T.

Hmm. a mistake?




"CopperTop" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> If I'm not mistaken, the Daytona does not have a horsepower or torque
> difference from the R/T. I think the Daytona is just a cosmetic package.
> The HP gain comes with the SRT8 version.
>
> ======
>
> "NJ Vike" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
>> Anyone purchase a new Charger yet? If so, how do you like it so far?
>>
>> I'm seriously considering purchasing the Daytona (Top Banana) but am a
>> little hesitant because it may just be a little loud? for me. Perhaps a
>> regular R/T would be just as good.
>>
>> Where does the Daytona pick up the extra ponies from over the R/T
>>
>>
>> Ken
>> --
>> "Now Phoebe Snow direct can go
>> from thirty-third to Buffalo.
>> From Broadway bright the tubes run right
>> Into the Road of Anthracite"
>> Erie - Lackawanna
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Is it a definite? I've seen the publications but haven't seen where it says
DC will build it. I believe the article mentioned that DC is concerned since
the GTO from Pontiac didn't sell too good.

Ken



"Dan C" > wrote in message
news
> On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:02:33 +0000, NJ Vike wrote:
>
>> Anyone purchase a new Charger yet?
>
> I'm gonna wait for the Challenger, which actually looks something like
> it's namesake. 2009, I think...
>
> --
> If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
> Linux Registered User #327951
>

That sounds like the ticket ;-)



"robs440" > wrote in message
...
> they sell an R/T and a Dayonta R/T
> http://www-5.dodge.com/vehsuite/VehicleCompare.jsp
>
> i know a guy in Detroit with one.......getting 20 MPG and loves it. burns
> rubber 20 feet minimum. lotta fun to drive for a damn 4 door
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "CopperTop" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
>> If I'm not mistaken, the Daytona does not have a horsepower or torque
>> difference from the R/T. I think the Daytona is just a cosmetic package.
>> The HP gain comes with the SRT8 version.
>>
>> ======
>>
>> "NJ Vike" > wrote in message
>> ink.net...
>> > Anyone purchase a new Charger yet? If so, how do you like it so far?
>> >
>> > I'm seriously considering purchasing the Daytona (Top Banana) but am a
>> > little hesitant because it may just be a little loud? for me. Perhaps a
>> > regular R/T would be just as good.
>> >
>> > Where does the Daytona pick up the extra ponies from over the R/T
>> >
>> >
>> > Ken
>> > --
>> > "Now Phoebe Snow direct can go
>> > from thirty-third to Buffalo.
>> > From Broadway bright the tubes run right
>> > Into the Road of Anthracite"
>> > Erie - Lackawanna
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

hmmmmmm just noticed that. maybe due to exhaust


"NJ Vike" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> The brochure says 350 compared to the R/T.
>
> Hmm. a mistake?
>
>
>
>
> "CopperTop" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
> > If I'm not mistaken, the Daytona does not have a horsepower or torque
> > difference from the R/T. I think the Daytona is just a cosmetic
package.
> > The HP gain comes with the SRT8 version.
> >
> > ======
> >
> > "NJ Vike" > wrote in message
> > ink.net...
> >> Anyone purchase a new Charger yet? If so, how do you like it so far?
> >>
> >> I'm seriously considering purchasing the Daytona (Top Banana) but am a
> >> little hesitant because it may just be a little loud? for me. Perhaps a
> >> regular R/T would be just as good.
> >>
> >> Where does the Daytona pick up the extra ponies from over the R/T
> >>
> >>
> >> Ken
> >> --
> >> "Now Phoebe Snow direct can go
> >> from thirty-third to Buffalo.
> >> From Broadway bright the tubes run right
> >> Into the Road of Anthracite"
> >> Erie - Lackawanna
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

the sales of the re-badged austrailian car pretending to be a GTO is not
worrying chrysler. pontiace and all of that matter has nothing the public
wants right now so they keep cutting prices. they are so worried about
chrysler infact, the brought back the camaro. http://tinyurl.com/czs5k

having to spend 300 million to retool an already maxxed out assembly plant
might be a concern since the charger, 300, and magnum are built in ontario
and that plant is maxxed at 3 shifts now. might looking to go to another
plant.


there's already talk of adding the 392 Hemi to it in 08 or 09. then theres
this info from the company themselves






Dodge 2006 Challenger Concept
Flexes Some Muscle



Bold concept is a thoroughbred in 1970 "Pony Car" Tradition





In creating the new Dodge Challenger concept car the designers at Chrysler
Group's West Coast Pacifica Studio knew they had a rich heritage to draw
upon.



They also knew they had an obligation to "get it right."



Tasked with the enviable assignment of developing a hot-looking performance
coupe using Chrysler Group's advanced rear-wheel drive LX platform and its
fabled HEMI® engine, the designers explored a variety of options, eventually
gravitating to "something" for the Dodge brand-- appropriate given that
brand's bold performance image. The idea of reinventing the
highly-collectible Challenger quickly came to mind.



Eager to begin, the designers drew up a "short list "of the essential
attributes of a muscle car: distinctly American; mega horsepower; pure,
minimal, signature lines; aggressive air-grabbing grille; and bold colors
and graphics.



"Challenger draws upon the initial 1970 model as the icon of the series,"
said Tom Tremont, Vice President- Advanced Vehicle Design. "The 1970 model
is the most sought after by collectors. But instead of merely recreating
that car, the designers endeavored to build a Challenger most people see in
their mind's eye-a vehicle without the imperfections like the old car's
tucked-under wheels, long front overhang and imperfect fits. As with all
pleasurable memories, you remember the good and screen out the bad.



"We wanted the concept car to evoke all those sweet memories.everything you
thought the Challenger was, and more."



"During the development of the concept car," says Micheal Castiglione,
principal exterior designer, "we brought an actual 1970 Challenger into the
studio. For me, that car symbolizes the most passionate era of automotive
design."



Being key to the image, getting the right proportions was critical. The
Challenger concept sits on a 116-inch wheelbase, 6-inches longer than the
original. But its width is 2-inches greater, giving the concept car a squat,
tougher, more purposeful persona.



The signature side view accent line - designers call it the "thrust" line-is
higher up on the body, running horizontal through the fender and door and
kicking up just forward of the rear wheel.



In section the upper and lower body surfaces intersect and fall away along
this line, which has just a whisper of the original car's coved surfacing.



"We wanted to stay pure," said Castiglione, "with simple, minimal line work,
but with everything just right."



The five-spoke chrome wheels-- 20-inch, front; 21-inch, rear-are set flush
with the bodyside, giving the car the powerful muscular stance of a
prizefighter eager to challenge the world. Wheel openings are drawn tightly
against the tires, with the rearward edges trailing off. To emphasize the
iconic muscularity, the designers added plan view "hip" to the rear
quarters.



One of the key characteristics of the original car the designers wanted to
retain was the exceptionally wide look of both the front and back ends. To
achieve this the designers increased both the front and rear tracks to 64
and 65 inches respectively, wider than the LX, wider even than the 1970
model. To realize the long horizontal hood the designers deemed essential,
the front overhang was also increased.



Both the hood and the deck lid of the Challenger concept vehicle are higher
than the 1970 in order to lift and "present" the front and rear themes. The
front end features the signature Dodge crossbar grille and four headlamps
deeply recessed into the iconic car-wide horizontal cavity. Diagonally
staggered in plan view, the outboard lamps are set forward, the
"six-shooter" inboard lamps slightly rearward. At the rear, the car-wide
cavity motif is repeated, encompassing a full-width neon-lit taillamp. Both
the grille and the front and rear lamps are set into carbon-fiber surrounds.
Like the original, slim rectangular side marker lamps define the ends of the
car.



Bumpers are clean (no guards), body-color and flush with the body. "This is
something we would have loved to do on the original Challenger," said Jeff
Godshall, who was a young designer in the Dodge Exterior studio when the
first Challenger was created, "but the technology just wasn't there. With
the Challenger concept, however, the Pacifica Studio designers are able to
realize what we wanted in our perfect world."



The hood reprises the original Challenger "performance hood" and its twin
diagonal scoops, now with functional butterfly-valve intakes. Designed to
showcase the modern techniques used in fabricating the car, what look like
painted racing stripes are actually the exposed carbon fiber of the hood
material.



The Challenger concept is a genuine four-passenger car-"You can sit up in
the back seat," said Castiglione. Compared to the original, the greenhouse
is longer, the windshield and backlite faster, and the side glass narrower.
All glass is set flush with the body without moldings, another touch the
original designers could only wish for. The car is a genuine two-door
hardtop-no B-pillar-- with the belt line ramping up assertively at the
quarter window just forward of the wide C-pillar.



Exterior details one might expect, like a racing-type gas cap, hood tie-down
pins, louvered backlite and bold bodyside striping, didn't make the "cut,"
the designers feeling such assorted bits would detract from the purity of
the monochromatic body form. But tucked reassuringly under the rear bumper
are the "gotta have" twin-rectangle pipes of the dual exhausts.



In contrast to the bright Orange Pearl exterior, the interior is a
no-nonsense, "let's-get-in-and-go" black relieved by satin silver accents
and narrow orange bands on the seat backs. "Though the 1970 model was looked
to for inspiration, we wanted to capture the memory of that car, but
expressed in more contemporary surfaces, materials and textures," said Alan
Barrington, principal interior designer. As with the original car, the
instrumental panel pad sits high, intersected on the driver's side by a
sculpted trapezoidal cluster containing three circular in-line analog gauge
openings.



"We designed the in-your-face gauge holes to appear as if you are looking
down into the engine cylinders with the head off," relates Barrington. These
are flanked outboard by a larger circular "gauge" that is actually a
computer, allowing the driver to determine top overall speed, quarter-mile
time and speed, and top speed for each of the gears.



With its thick, easy-grip rim, circular hub and pierced silver spokes, the
leather-wrapped steering wheel evokes the original car's "Tuff" wheel, as
does the steering column "ribbing." The floor console, its center surface
tipped toward the driver, is fitted with a proper "pistol grip" shifter
shaped just right to master the quick, crisp shifts possible with the
six-speed manual "tranny."



Inasmuch as the original Challenger was the first car to have
injection-molded door trim panels (now common practice), the doors received
special attention.

"We imagined that the door panel was a billet of aluminum covered with a
dark rubberized material," Barrington relates. "Then we cut into it to
create a silver trapezoidal cove for the armrest."



Although the flat-section bucket seats of the original Challenger didn't
offer much support for aggressive driving, the front seats in the Challenger
concept car boast hefty bolsters much like those found on Dodge's famed SRT
series cars. The trim covers' horizontal pleats or "fales" provide just a
hint of that "70's" look.



Rethought, reworked, reproportioned and redesigned, the Challenger concept
car offers iconic a HEMI-powered performance coupe derived from a classic
American muscle car.


"NJ Vike" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Is it a definite? I've seen the publications but haven't seen where it
says
> DC will build it. I believe the article mentioned that DC is concerned
since
> the GTO from Pontiac didn't sell too good.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> "Dan C" > wrote in message
> news
> > On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:02:33 +0000, NJ Vike wrote:
> >
> >> Anyone purchase a new Charger yet?
> >
> > I'm gonna wait for the Challenger, which actually looks something like
> > it's namesake. 2009, I think...
> >
> > --
> > If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
> > Linux Registered User #327951
> >
>
>

Automobile Magazine has an article on the Camaro. Going to see what it's all
about.

Ken




"robs440" > wrote in message
. ..
> the sales of the re-badged austrailian car pretending to be a GTO is not
> worrying chrysler. pontiace and all of that matter has nothing the public
> wants right now so they keep cutting prices. they are so worried about
> chrysler infact, the brought back the camaro. http://tinyurl.com/czs5k
>
> having to spend 300 million to retool an already maxxed out assembly plant
> might be a concern since the charger, 300, and magnum are built in ontario
> and that plant is maxxed at 3 shifts now. might looking to go to another
> plant.
>
>
> there's already talk of adding the 392 Hemi to it in 08 or 09. then
> theres
> this info from the company themselves
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dodge 2006 Challenger Concept
> Flexes Some Muscle
>
>
>
> Bold concept is a thoroughbred in 1970 "Pony Car" Tradition
>
>
>
>
>
> In creating the new Dodge Challenger concept car the designers at Chrysler
> Group's West Coast Pacifica Studio knew they had a rich heritage to draw
> upon.
>
>
>
> They also knew they had an obligation to "get it right."
>
>
>
> Tasked with the enviable assignment of developing a hot-looking
> performance
> coupe using Chrysler Group's advanced rear-wheel drive LX platform and its
> fabled HEMI® engine, the designers explored a variety of options,
> eventually
> gravitating to "something" for the Dodge brand-- appropriate given that
> brand's bold performance image. The idea of reinventing the
> highly-collectible Challenger quickly came to mind.
>
>
>
> Eager to begin, the designers drew up a "short list "of the essential
> attributes of a muscle car: distinctly American; mega horsepower; pure,
> minimal, signature lines; aggressive air-grabbing grille; and bold colors
> and graphics.
>
>
>
> "Challenger draws upon the initial 1970 model as the icon of the series,"
> said Tom Tremont, Vice President- Advanced Vehicle Design. "The 1970 model
> is the most sought after by collectors. But instead of merely recreating
> that car, the designers endeavored to build a Challenger most people see
> in
> their mind's eye-a vehicle without the imperfections like the old car's
> tucked-under wheels, long front overhang and imperfect fits. As with all
> pleasurable memories, you remember the good and screen out the bad.
>
>
>
> "We wanted the concept car to evoke all those sweet memories.everything
> you
> thought the Challenger was, and more."
>
>
>
> "During the development of the concept car," says Micheal Castiglione,
> principal exterior designer, "we brought an actual 1970 Challenger into
> the
> studio. For me, that car symbolizes the most passionate era of automotive
> design."
>
>
>
> Being key to the image, getting the right proportions was critical. The
> Challenger concept sits on a 116-inch wheelbase, 6-inches longer than the
> original. But its width is 2-inches greater, giving the concept car a
> squat,
> tougher, more purposeful persona.
>
>
>
> The signature side view accent line - designers call it the "thrust"
> line-is
> higher up on the body, running horizontal through the fender and door and
> kicking up just forward of the rear wheel.
>
>
>
> In section the upper and lower body surfaces intersect and fall away along
> this line, which has just a whisper of the original car's coved surfacing.
>
>
>
> "We wanted to stay pure," said Castiglione, "with simple, minimal line
> work,
> but with everything just right."
>
>
>
> The five-spoke chrome wheels-- 20-inch, front; 21-inch, rear-are set flush
> with the bodyside, giving the car the powerful muscular stance of a
> prizefighter eager to challenge the world. Wheel openings are drawn
> tightly
> against the tires, with the rearward edges trailing off. To emphasize the
> iconic muscularity, the designers added plan view "hip" to the rear
> quarters.
>
>
>
> One of the key characteristics of the original car the designers wanted to
> retain was the exceptionally wide look of both the front and back ends. To
> achieve this the designers increased both the front and rear tracks to 64
> and 65 inches respectively, wider than the LX, wider even than the 1970
> model. To realize the long horizontal hood the designers deemed essential,
> the front overhang was also increased.
>
>
>
> Both the hood and the deck lid of the Challenger concept vehicle are
> higher
> than the 1970 in order to lift and "present" the front and rear themes.
> The
> front end features the signature Dodge crossbar grille and four headlamps
> deeply recessed into the iconic car-wide horizontal cavity. Diagonally
> staggered in plan view, the outboard lamps are set forward, the
> "six-shooter" inboard lamps slightly rearward. At the rear, the car-wide
> cavity motif is repeated, encompassing a full-width neon-lit taillamp.
> Both
> the grille and the front and rear lamps are set into carbon-fiber
> surrounds.
> Like the original, slim rectangular side marker lamps define the ends of
> the
> car.
>
>
>
> Bumpers are clean (no guards), body-color and flush with the body. "This
> is
> something we would have loved to do on the original Challenger," said Jeff
> Godshall, who was a young designer in the Dodge Exterior studio when the
> first Challenger was created, "but the technology just wasn't there. With
> the Challenger concept, however, the Pacifica Studio designers are able to
> realize what we wanted in our perfect world."
>
>
>
> The hood reprises the original Challenger "performance hood" and its twin
> diagonal scoops, now with functional butterfly-valve intakes. Designed to
> showcase the modern techniques used in fabricating the car, what look like
> painted racing stripes are actually the exposed carbon fiber of the hood
> material.
>
>
>
> The Challenger concept is a genuine four-passenger car-"You can sit up in
> the back seat," said Castiglione. Compared to the original, the greenhouse
> is longer, the windshield and backlite faster, and the side glass
> narrower.
> All glass is set flush with the body without moldings, another touch the
> original designers could only wish for. The car is a genuine two-door
> hardtop-no B-pillar-- with the belt line ramping up assertively at the
> quarter window just forward of the wide C-pillar.
>
>
>
> Exterior details one might expect, like a racing-type gas cap, hood
> tie-down
> pins, louvered backlite and bold bodyside striping, didn't make the "cut,"
> the designers feeling such assorted bits would detract from the purity of
> the monochromatic body form. But tucked reassuringly under the rear bumper
> are the "gotta have" twin-rectangle pipes of the dual exhausts.
>
>
>
> In contrast to the bright Orange Pearl exterior, the interior is a
> no-nonsense, "let's-get-in-and-go" black relieved by satin silver accents
> and narrow orange bands on the seat backs. "Though the 1970 model was
> looked
> to for inspiration, we wanted to capture the memory of that car, but
> expressed in more contemporary surfaces, materials and textures," said
> Alan
> Barrington, principal interior designer. As with the original car, the
> instrumental panel pad sits high, intersected on the driver's side by a
> sculpted trapezoidal cluster containing three circular in-line analog
> gauge
> openings.
>
>
>
> "We designed the in-your-face gauge holes to appear as if you are looking
> down into the engine cylinders with the head off," relates Barrington.
> These
> are flanked outboard by a larger circular "gauge" that is actually a
> computer, allowing the driver to determine top overall speed, quarter-mile
> time and speed, and top speed for each of the gears.
>
>
>
> With its thick, easy-grip rim, circular hub and pierced silver spokes, the
> leather-wrapped steering wheel evokes the original car's "Tuff" wheel, as
> does the steering column "ribbing." The floor console, its center surface
> tipped toward the driver, is fitted with a proper "pistol grip" shifter
> shaped just right to master the quick, crisp shifts possible with the
> six-speed manual "tranny."
>
>
>
> Inasmuch as the original Challenger was the first car to have
> injection-molded door trim panels (now common practice), the doors
> received
> special attention.
>
> "We imagined that the door panel was a billet of aluminum covered with a
> dark rubberized material," Barrington relates. "Then we cut into it to
> create a silver trapezoidal cove for the armrest."
>
>
>
> Although the flat-section bucket seats of the original Challenger didn't
> offer much support for aggressive driving, the front seats in the
> Challenger
> concept car boast hefty bolsters much like those found on Dodge's famed
> SRT
> series cars. The trim covers' horizontal pleats or "fales" provide just a
> hint of that "70's" look.
>
>
>
> Rethought, reworked, reproportioned and redesigned, the Challenger concept
> car offers iconic a HEMI-powered performance coupe derived from a classic
> American muscle car.
>
>
> "NJ Vike" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
>> Is it a definite? I've seen the publications but haven't seen where it
> says
>> DC will build it. I believe the article mentioned that DC is concerned
> since
>> the GTO from Pontiac didn't sell too good.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>>
>> "Dan C" > wrote in message
>> news
>> > On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:02:33 +0000, NJ Vike wrote:
>> >
>> >> Anyone purchase a new Charger yet?
>> >
>> > I'm gonna wait for the Challenger, which actually looks something like
>> > it's namesake. 2009, I think...
>> >
>> > --
>> > If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
>> > Linux Registered User #327951
>> >
>>
>>
>
>