New Pacifica version

"Steve" > wrote in message
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> KokomoKid wrote:
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> > > wrote in message
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> >>On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 01:10:07 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>The whole world is going diesel. Accept nothing less than a diesel.
And
> >>>make sure its a good diesel without that pesky timing belt. That's the
> >>>mistake VW made. Their gas engine was great. A free running engine.
> >
> > But
> >
> >>>their diesel is a big loser because when that timing belt skips or
breaks
> >>>and it will skip or break on some cold morning, you're out a couple of
> >>>grand for a new engine. It makes no sense to save a couple of C notes
on
> >>>gas and dump and engine which'll set you back a bunch of M bills.
Yeah,
> >
> > I
> >
> >>>know they don't print them anymore. Ask yourself why, when a dollar
was
> >>>worth a buck you had $1000 bills and now that a dollar is asswipe, why
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>largest demonation is a $100?
> >>
> >>what diesels do you know, that aren't interference engines,
> >>and/or don't have timing belts?
> >>
> >>(or were timing chains ok in your book?)
> >>
> >>just curious.
> >>
> >
> > All diesels are interference. There is no way around it, given the
20+/1
> > compression ratio. There are only two brands of diesel cars sold in the
> > U.S., VW and MB.
>
> MB doesn't sell a diesel in the US any more. And REAL diesels don't have
> glow-plugs or pre-chambers, and their camshafts are turned by GEARS, not
> by chains OR belts.

MB DOES INDEED sell a diesel in the U.S. It's called E320CDI.

KokomoKid wrote:

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> MB DOES INDEED sell a diesel in the U.S. It's called E320CDI.
>
>
Not if you live in California, Maine, Massachusetts, New York or
Vermont. Won't meet emissions.

KokomoKid wrote:

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> MB DOES INDEED sell a diesel in the U.S. It's called E320CDI.
>
>
Not if you live in California, Maine, Massachusetts, New York or
Vermont. Won't meet emissions.

"Steve" > wrote in message
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> Arthur wrote:
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>> That's progressive. Install a bigger fuel guzzler. Obviously, these
>> Germans don't take hints from each other. Porsche is making a deal to
>> use Toyota hybrid engine technology on their SUV's. Go figure.
>> Arthur
>
> Some people shouldn't be allowed near a keyboard.
>
> Did it ever occur to you that a bigger displacement, LOWER peak horsepower
> but HIGHER peak torque engine might just yield BETTER fuel efficiency in a
> heavy vehicle than a high-revving quad-valve overhead-cam engine that
> spends 99.999% way off its optimum operating parameters does?

Unfortunately EPA figures aren't available yet at Chrysler's site but I was
thinking that at least there would be a low end torque improvement.

>

"Steve" > wrote in message
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> Arthur wrote:
>
>> That's progressive. Install a bigger fuel guzzler. Obviously, these
>> Germans don't take hints from each other. Porsche is making a deal to
>> use Toyota hybrid engine technology on their SUV's. Go figure.
>> Arthur
>
> Some people shouldn't be allowed near a keyboard.
>
> Did it ever occur to you that a bigger displacement, LOWER peak horsepower
> but HIGHER peak torque engine might just yield BETTER fuel efficiency in a
> heavy vehicle than a high-revving quad-valve overhead-cam engine that
> spends 99.999% way off its optimum operating parameters does?

Unfortunately EPA figures aren't available yet at Chrysler's site but I was
thinking that at least there would be a low end torque improvement.

>

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"Art" > wrote in message
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> They are coming out with a 5 seater using the 3.8 engine instead of the
3.5.
>
>

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"Art" > wrote in message
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> They are coming out with a 5 seater using the 3.8 engine instead of the
3.5.
>
>

"Mike Behnke" > wrote in message
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> KokomoKid wrote:
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>>
>> MB DOES INDEED sell a diesel in the U.S. It's called E320CDI.
>>
>>
> Not if you live in California, Maine, Massachusetts, New York or Vermont.
> Won't meet emissions.

It will be sold in California emission states once more expensive low Sulfur
No. 2 Diesel fuel is mandated in a few years. But then, running a Diesel
vehicle will likely be more expensive than running a regular gas fueled
vehicle with its better performance and cold weather startability. It is
predicted that low Sulfur processing will add 7 cents per gal.

Richard.

Richard.

"Mike Behnke" > wrote in message
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> KokomoKid wrote:
>
>>
>> MB DOES INDEED sell a diesel in the U.S. It's called E320CDI.
>>
>>
> Not if you live in California, Maine, Massachusetts, New York or Vermont.
> Won't meet emissions.

It will be sold in California emission states once more expensive low Sulfur
No. 2 Diesel fuel is mandated in a few years. But then, running a Diesel
vehicle will likely be more expensive than running a regular gas fueled
vehicle with its better performance and cold weather startability. It is
predicted that low Sulfur processing will add 7 cents per gal.

Richard.

Richard.