Are you in favor of SUV's

On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 09:54:30 GMT, "George Conklin"
>

>
>"John David Galt" > wrote in message
...
>> > John David Galt wrote:
>> >> For once we agree. Anyone who believes that SUVs' bumper height is
>illegal
>> >> or that our gas purchases go "straight into the pockets of Osama"
>should go
>> >> report those crimes to the police immediately -- so they can throw him
>in
>> >> the loony bin where he belongs.
>>
>> william lynch wrote:
>> > So you cannot even tell that the bumpers are much higher on SUVs?
>>
>> Sure they're higher. Show me a law against it.
>
> The bumper heights of the 18-wheeler are higher than those of a car.
>Should be illegal, right?
>

Are you sure about that? The front bumper is actually pretty low on
many 18-wheelers, and trailers are required to have a bar (not sure if
you can really call it a bumper) to prevent regular cars from running up
underneath them.

It is called an ICC bar, and it hits right in the center of the
grill

mike hunt



"Mike Z. Helm" wrote:
>
>
> Are you sure about that? The front bumper is actually pretty low on
> many 18-wheelers, and trailers are required to have a bar (not sure if
> you can really call it a bumper) to prevent regular cars from running up
> underneath them.

It is called an ICC bar, and it hits right in the center of the
grill

mike hunt



"Mike Z. Helm" wrote:
>
>
> Are you sure about that? The front bumper is actually pretty low on
> many 18-wheelers, and trailers are required to have a bar (not sure if
> you can really call it a bumper) to prevent regular cars from running up
> underneath them.

"Mike Z. Helm" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 09:54:30 GMT, "George Conklin"
> >
>
> >
> >"John David Galt" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> > John David Galt wrote:
> >> >> For once we agree. Anyone who believes that SUVs' bumper height is
> >illegal
> >> >> or that our gas purchases go "straight into the pockets of Osama"
> >should go
> >> >> report those crimes to the police immediately -- so they can throw
him
> >in
> >> >> the loony bin where he belongs.
> >>
> >> william lynch wrote:
> >> > So you cannot even tell that the bumpers are much higher on SUVs?
> >>
> >> Sure they're higher. Show me a law against it.
> >
> > The bumper heights of the 18-wheeler are higher than those of a car.
> >Should be illegal, right?
> >
>
> Are you sure about that? The front bumper is actually pretty low on
> many 18-wheelers, and trailers are required to have a bar (not sure if
> you can really call it a bumper) to prevent regular cars from running up
> underneath them.
>

Much higher than even a Suburban. Further, in Europe trucks have to have
good bumpers in the REAR so cars cannot run up under the trailer. When this
happens, drivers get their heads cut off. But the truck lobby in the USA
has prevented that safety device used in Europe.

"Mike Z. Helm" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 09:54:30 GMT, "George Conklin"
> >
>
> >
> >"John David Galt" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> > John David Galt wrote:
> >> >> For once we agree. Anyone who believes that SUVs' bumper height is
> >illegal
> >> >> or that our gas purchases go "straight into the pockets of Osama"
> >should go
> >> >> report those crimes to the police immediately -- so they can throw
him
> >in
> >> >> the loony bin where he belongs.
> >>
> >> william lynch wrote:
> >> > So you cannot even tell that the bumpers are much higher on SUVs?
> >>
> >> Sure they're higher. Show me a law against it.
> >
> > The bumper heights of the 18-wheeler are higher than those of a car.
> >Should be illegal, right?
> >
>
> Are you sure about that? The front bumper is actually pretty low on
> many 18-wheelers, and trailers are required to have a bar (not sure if
> you can really call it a bumper) to prevent regular cars from running up
> underneath them.
>

Much higher than even a Suburban. Further, in Europe trucks have to have
good bumpers in the REAR so cars cannot run up under the trailer. When this
happens, drivers get their heads cut off. But the truck lobby in the USA
has prevented that safety device used in Europe.

On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 13:42:52 GMT, "George Conklin"
> wrote:

>
>"Mike Z. Helm" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 09:54:30 GMT, "George Conklin"
>> >
>>
>> >
>> >"John David Galt" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> > John David Galt wrote:
>> >> >> For once we agree. Anyone who believes that SUVs' bumper height is
>> >illegal
>> >> >> or that our gas purchases go "straight into the pockets of Osama"
>> >should go
>> >> >> report those crimes to the police immediately -- so they can throw
>him
>> >in
>> >> >> the loony bin where he belongs.
>> >>
>> >> william lynch wrote:
>> >> > So you cannot even tell that the bumpers are much higher on SUVs?
>> >>
>> >> Sure they're higher. Show me a law against it.
>> >
>> > The bumper heights of the 18-wheeler are higher than those of a car.
>> >Should be illegal, right?
>> >
>>
>> Are you sure about that? The front bumper is actually pretty low on
>> many 18-wheelers, and trailers are required to have a bar (not sure if
>> you can really call it a bumper) to prevent regular cars from running up
>> underneath them.
>>
>
> Much higher than even a Suburban.

Not really

> Further, in Europe trucks have to have
>good bumpers in the REAR so cars cannot run up under the trailer. When this
>happens, drivers get their heads cut off. But the truck lobby in the USA
>has prevented that safety device used in Europe.
>

On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 13:42:52 GMT, "George Conklin"
> wrote:

>
>"Mike Z. Helm" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 09:54:30 GMT, "George Conklin"
>> >
>>
>> >
>> >"John David Galt" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> > John David Galt wrote:
>> >> >> For once we agree. Anyone who believes that SUVs' bumper height is
>> >illegal
>> >> >> or that our gas purchases go "straight into the pockets of Osama"
>> >should go
>> >> >> report those crimes to the police immediately -- so they can throw
>him
>> >in
>> >> >> the loony bin where he belongs.
>> >>
>> >> william lynch wrote:
>> >> > So you cannot even tell that the bumpers are much higher on SUVs?
>> >>
>> >> Sure they're higher. Show me a law against it.
>> >
>> > The bumper heights of the 18-wheeler are higher than those of a car.
>> >Should be illegal, right?
>> >
>>
>> Are you sure about that? The front bumper is actually pretty low on
>> many 18-wheelers, and trailers are required to have a bar (not sure if
>> you can really call it a bumper) to prevent regular cars from running up
>> underneath them.
>>
>
> Much higher than even a Suburban.

Not really

> Further, in Europe trucks have to have
>good bumpers in the REAR so cars cannot run up under the trailer. When this
>happens, drivers get their heads cut off. But the truck lobby in the USA
>has prevented that safety device used in Europe.
>

I guess you never heard of the ICC bar, required on the rear of
trucks.


mike hunt



George Conklin wrote:
>
> Further, in Europe trucks have to have
> good bumpers in the REAR so cars cannot run up under the trailer. When this
> happens, drivers get their heads cut off. But the truck lobby in the USA
> has prevented that safety device used in Europe.

I guess you never heard of the ICC bar, required on the rear of
trucks.


mike hunt



George Conklin wrote:
>
> Further, in Europe trucks have to have
> good bumpers in the REAR so cars cannot run up under the trailer. When this
> happens, drivers get their heads cut off. But the truck lobby in the USA
> has prevented that safety device used in Europe.

> wrote in message
...
>>
>
> George Conklin wrote:
> >
> > Further, in Europe trucks have to have
> > good bumpers in the REAR so cars cannot run up under the trailer. When
this
> > happens, drivers get their heads cut off. But the truck lobby in the
USA
> > has prevented that safety device used in Europe.

I guess you never heard of the ICC bar, required on the rear of
> trucks.
>
>
> mike hunt
>
Stop top posting please.

That ICC bar is a joke.