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Hyundais as Dodges?
The recent thread on the Mexican-market Dodge Ram Durango had me over to www.dodge.com.mx . Apparently they've got a new model called the "Verna". The Verna greets us when the page comes up... ....replete with Hyundai badge in the middle of the grill. Wonder if this is a Mexico-only marketing arrangement, or if DC, having failed to learn the lessons presented by years of unholy alliance with Bitsu****ti, has got in bed with Hyundai. |
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"Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message n.umich.edu... > > The recent thread on the Mexican-market Dodge Ram Durango had me over to > www.dodge.com.mx . Apparently they've got a new model called the "Verna". > The Verna greets us when the page comes up... > > ...replete with Hyundai badge in the middle of the grill. Wonder if this > is a Mexico-only marketing arrangement, or if DC, having failed to learn > the lessons presented by years of unholy alliance with Bitsu****ti, has > got in bed with Hyundai. They've been in bed with Hyundai for a while. There was(is?) some car smaller than the Neon sold in Mexico, that is really a rebadged Hyundai. The two are also working together on future models / platforms / powertrains. As well even when they were providing crap, Chrysler didn't cut ties with Mitsubishi, so I doubt they've learned anything. |
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, Bill 2 wrote:
> > The recent thread on the Mexican-market Dodge Ram Durango had me over > > to www.dodge.com.mx . Apparently they've got a new model called the > > "Verna". The Verna greets us when the page comes up... ...replete with > > Hyundai badge in the middle of the grill. Wonder if this is a > > Mexico-only marketing arrangement, or if DC, having failed to learn > > the lessons presented by years of unholy alliance with Bitsu****ti, > > has got in bed with Hyundai. > They've been in bed with Hyundai for a while. There was(is?) some car > smaller than the Neon sold in Mexico, that is really a rebadged Hyundai. The Atos, yes. > The two are also working together on future models / platforms / > powertrains. Oh, joy. > As well even when they were providing crap, Chrysler didn't cut ties > with Mitsubishi, so I doubt they've learned anything. Looks like not. |
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, Bill 2 wrote:
> > The recent thread on the Mexican-market Dodge Ram Durango had me over > > to www.dodge.com.mx . Apparently they've got a new model called the > > "Verna". The Verna greets us when the page comes up... ...replete with > > Hyundai badge in the middle of the grill. Wonder if this is a > > Mexico-only marketing arrangement, or if DC, having failed to learn > > the lessons presented by years of unholy alliance with Bitsu****ti, > > has got in bed with Hyundai. > They've been in bed with Hyundai for a while. There was(is?) some car > smaller than the Neon sold in Mexico, that is really a rebadged Hyundai. The Atos, yes. > The two are also working together on future models / platforms / > powertrains. Oh, joy. > As well even when they were providing crap, Chrysler didn't cut ties > with Mitsubishi, so I doubt they've learned anything. Looks like not. |
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Daniel J. Stern wrote:
> The recent thread on the Mexican-market Dodge Ram Durango had me over to > www.dodge.com.mx . Apparently they've got a new model called the "Verna". > The Verna greets us when the page comes up... > > ...replete with Hyundai badge in the middle of the grill. Wonder if this > is a Mexico-only marketing arrangement, or if DC, having failed to learn > the lessons presented by years of unholy alliance with Bitsu****ti, has > got in bed with Hyundai. > > Mits, Hyundai and DC's Chrysler Group had agreed to manufacture engines together under the "Global Engine Alliance LLC" banner back in Feb 2003. The US plant, located in Dundee, Michigan, was to have started ops in 2005. Chrysler backed out in May 2004, when it announced it was to sell it's 10.5% stake in Hyundai. Chysler still involved with Hyundai and Mits to produce the Hyundai "World Engine" in Japan and the US. The engines look to be all aluminum 1.8, 2.0 and 2.4L I-4's. The 2.4L is also known as the "Theta" engine, used in the Sonata. The engine family supposedly uses a Borg-Warner timing chain setup. The next generation Neon (2007) is rumored to use at least one of the family. Mits will sell a version of the Neon, with different interior and exterior, to s. America. |
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, Mike Behnke wrote:
> The next generation Neon (2007) is rumored to use at least one of the > family. Mits will sell a version of the Neon, with different interior > and exterior, to s. America. ....assuming Mitsubishi lasts that long. |
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, Mike Behnke wrote:
> The next generation Neon (2007) is rumored to use at least one of the > family. Mits will sell a version of the Neon, with different interior > and exterior, to s. America. ....assuming Mitsubishi lasts that long. |
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Mike Behnke > writes:
> > Mits, Hyundai and DC's Chrysler Group had agreed to manufacture > engines together under the "Global Engine Alliance LLC" banner back in > Feb 2003. The US plant, located in Dundee, Michigan, was to have > started ops in 2005. Chrysler backed out in May 2004, when it > announced it was to sell it's 10.5% stake in Hyundai. Ah, I hadn't seen that -- glad to hear it! > The next generation Neon (2007) is rumored to use at least one of > the family. Mits will sell a version of the Neon, with different > interior and exterior, to s. America. So... the next Neon won't be a Hyundai after all? That would be *excellent* news. -- Joseph J. Pfeiffer, Jr., Ph.D. Phone -- (505) 646-1605 Department of Computer Science FAX -- (505) 646-1002 New Mexico State University http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~pfeiffer |
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"Joe Pfeiffer" > wrote in message ... > Mike Behnke > writes: > > > > Mits, Hyundai and DC's Chrysler Group had agreed to manufacture > > engines together under the "Global Engine Alliance LLC" banner back in > > Feb 2003. The US plant, located in Dundee, Michigan, was to have > > started ops in 2005. Chrysler backed out in May 2004, when it > > announced it was to sell it's 10.5% stake in Hyundai. > > Ah, I hadn't seen that -- glad to hear it! > > > The next generation Neon (2007) is rumored to use at least one of > > the family. Mits will sell a version of the Neon, with different > > interior and exterior, to s. America. > > So... the next Neon won't be a Hyundai after all? That would be > *excellent* news. Why? Not like Mitsu is any better. |
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"Bill 2" > writes:
> > So... the next Neon won't be a Hyundai after all? That would be > > *excellent* news. > > Why? Not like Mitsu is any better. "I was jumping to conclusions, and one of them jumped back" as Al Stewart once wrote. The one I was jumping to was that this meant the next Neon would be a real live American car. You're right, it's much more likely to be a Mitsu. -- Joseph J. Pfeiffer, Jr., Ph.D. Phone -- (505) 646-1605 Department of Computer Science FAX -- (505) 646-1002 New Mexico State University http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~pfeiffer |
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