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Remco Moedt wrote:
> I'm sure we'll see RL one day, and I hope it will be as good as we all > think it will be. And even if it never will be finished then it's fine > with me, there are lot of others games. The only thing I don't like in > this matter is the fact that the community is blamed for the negative > publicity. IMO it's part the fault of the developers, and part of a > small group of the community. I blame the internet! The community naturally has a diversity of views on seemingly most things such that the very nature of usenet and web forums just escalates these views into flame wars. The sim racing community is no different to any other games communities (action games, flight sims etc.) or for that matter any sports group (check out the F1 newsgroups for some hostility!). The one common view I would expect every sim racer to have is for better sims to be developed and with the pressures from publishers this is threatened. A number of developers have taken the time to join in the forums but I believe it simply becomes too much of an overhead, hence the community members involved in the development take the stance of spokesperson, but they are simply termed fanboys and either stop posting or spend their time in a defensive stance. I can understand the West's for believing they could join in with the community and evelop their product with us. Sim enthusiasts moving away from publishers so they could produce what they want and believe we would want - a hardcore sim. Personally I find it embarrassing that the community did not accept that - I don't see what we had to lose - the West's were the ones taking the only risks. Though I am not surprised having seen the way internet forums work. Maybe they didn't understand the community at large compared with the small groups they had dealt with and got the communication wrong - too much too soon and then nothing. Though selfishly I would rather they spent time developing than becoming PR experts. When you look at the sim racing community it seems to have more villains then heroes right now. We would only need rFactor to be delayed a couple more weeks for a pre order scam to hit the boards and join the evil ranks of Simbin and Dave Kaemmer according to some elements of the community. In my view we should push the developers to give us what we want, yet that can only be achieved by working with them not against them. This will only work in closed beta groups in my view and they will want to stay quiet for fear of stirring the proverbial hornet's nest and the sim community in general will stay in the dark. Which is pretty much where we are now... Cheers Tony |
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"Remco Moedt" > wrote
> > In many ways a community behaves like a > child, if you promise a child candy, and then you don't give it any, > and stop talking about it, the child starts crying. Don't blame the > child for that... This statement resumes the entire WSC/RL saga at its best. -- -- François Ménard <ymenard> -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World... |
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ymenard wrote:
> "Remco Moedt" > wrote > >>In many ways a community behaves like a >>child, if you promise a child candy, and then you don't give it any, >>and stop talking about it, the child starts crying. Don't blame the >>child for that... > > > > > This statement resumes the entire WSC/RL saga at its best. > it is vaporware plain and simple. WSC was a total joke of a program and the west brothers have been outed as collosal failures. |
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And none of that changes the fact that you're a lying asshole :-D Go
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