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RSC/USPITS: Time for FILSCA to step up to the plate?



 
 
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Old January 5th 05, 05:36 PM
mcewena
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Default RSC/USPITS: Time for FILSCA to step up to the plate?

It's inevitable that sites started/maintained by 1 or 2 individuals
which are useful enough to become hugely popular like rsc, theuspits,
GPL track database, GPLrank etc. will close. It's not a matter of
"if" they close it's "when".

People get burned out, tired of the abuse, discover a life away from
their computer screen, get married/divorced/remarried, run out of
funding (see previous item), get hit by buses, etc...

It's also almost a given that the really innovative and/or useful
sites, like those mentioned above, are going to be set up by 1 or 2
individuals and not a corporation or committee. Along with a lot of
crap or copy sites of course, but Darwin's laws will take care of
those...

However once they're established a vital service the sim community
and burnout is looming on the horizon it would nice if these guys had
the option of turning their baby over to a committee-like structure
such as FILSCA. Then we'd have the best of worlds, innovative
websites developed independently and a more stable "share the
workload" organization to take it over when it looks like they could
be lost.

If even half of the exampled above were handed over to FILSCA to be
maintained, secured, and continue to evolve then I'd be willing to
pay them $5-10 a year for access..

Of course the developers would have to be willing to live with the loss
of control that handing it over truly means (I'm sure some would rather
close).

And FILSCA would have to get over the "we didn't build it
ourselves" thing. I know, I know FILSCA is for leagues, but you
can't have leagues without drivers first..

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Old January 6th 05, 04:08 PM
Phil Lee
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mcewena wrote:
> It's inevitable that sites started/maintained by 1 or 2 individuals
> which are useful enough to become hugely popular like rsc, theuspits,
> GPL track database, GPLrank etc. will close. It's not a matter of
> "if" they close it's "when".
>


Sorry to dash your hopes but there is no chance of us handing RSC over
to anyone. The admin team are working hard to get the site back up and
running as we speak. In the last day we have overcome a huge hurdle that
has been preventing this and now finally feel we are making progress
towards getting the forum back online.

Cheers

Phil Lee
RSC Administrator
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Old January 6th 05, 06:24 PM
Jasper
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God no, please dont hand it over to FILSCA couldnt imagine anything worse
quite frankly, they already seem to to think they control simracing so
please dont give them anything more to inflate that opinion.

"Phil Lee" > wrote in message
...
> mcewena wrote:
>> It's inevitable that sites started/maintained by 1 or 2 individuals
>> which are useful enough to become hugely popular like rsc, theuspits,
>> GPL track database, GPLrank etc. will close. It's not a matter of
>> "if" they close it's "when".
>>

>
> Sorry to dash your hopes but there is no chance of us handing RSC over to
> anyone. The admin team are working hard to get the site back up and
> running as we speak. In the last day we have overcome a huge hurdle that
> has been preventing this and now finally feel we are making progress
> towards getting the forum back online.
>
> Cheers
>
> Phil Lee
> RSC Administrator



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Old January 6th 05, 07:37 PM
mcewena
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I'm not a big fan of the current form of FILSCA and it's not so much a
"hope" as a suggestion-of-last-resort for sites that are going/gone.
The one advantage of the committee format though is that they can
change their tune, either by the world ignoring them or by the world
joining them and staging a coup. Unless of course they're commitee
elections are held in the Ukraine...

Great to hear you'll be back soon Phil but I still think
burnout/closure is inevitable unless your support base is large enough
to be self sustaning, if it is, then you've already become a committee


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Old January 7th 05, 06:29 PM
mcewena
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And a share-the-workload sort of thing. Assuming from what they
originally intended they'd have some sort of regular elections for
duties. If you're the guy (un)lucky enough to be maintaining a certain
section of their content you just decline the job the next time it
comes up.

Unfortunatly they don't seem to want to share how they work until after
you've joined.

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Old January 9th 05, 12:56 AM
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control simracing? That's a little rich - FILSCA's nothing mroe than teh
work of a few guys over the course of a few years to facilitate leagues and
keep drivers' stats for life - and all of it for free. The idea that anyone
wants to control sim racing is a bit much; though i imagine there are those
(no names mentioned) who would, given the opportunity, seek to control our
beloved sim-sport for profit. Filsca cannot make a profit since it's a
not-for-profit club and cannot, legally, show an income. What's more, filsca
is not owned by anyone except the member leagues - which are, in turn,
'owned' by their drivers - as such, filsca cannot 'take over' anything since
filsca is the sim racers and is owned, 100%, by its members. As such, the
idea that it can take over sim racing is, as said, fanciful at best. What
filsca does do, however, is empower its own members to protect simracing
from the vultures that always circle around any 'sport' for profit.
"Byron Forbes" > wrote in message
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>
> "John Simmons" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article >,
>> says...
>> > God no, please dont hand it over to FILSCA couldnt imagine anything

> worse
>> > quite frankly, they already seem to to think they control simracing so
>> > please dont give them anything more to inflate that opinion.
>> >

>>
>> Hmmm, I'd never even heard of them until yesterday. I went to their
>> website yesterday and didn't see any compelling reason for them to take
>> over anything.

>
> I think FILSCA has great potential to centralize sim racing leagues - a
> good place to find a league and see who's who and what's what. That will
> be
> more than enough for them however - making it anything like The Pits/RSC
> would be huge overload!
>
>



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Old January 9th 05, 02:10 AM
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"alex martini" > wrote in message
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<snip>

What filsca does do, however, is empower its own members to protect
simracing from the vultures that always circle around any 'sport' for
profit.


That's a bit rich too; a bit to much self-importance being attributed to
sim racing.






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Old January 9th 05, 03:17 AM
Byron Forbes
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"alex martini" > wrote in message
.. .
> control simracing? That's a little rich - FILSCA's nothing mroe than teh
> work of a few guys over the course of a few years to facilitate leagues

and
> keep drivers' stats for life - and all of it for free. The idea that

anyone
> wants to control sim racing is a bit much; though i imagine there are

those
> (no names mentioned) who would, given the opportunity, seek to control our
> beloved sim-sport for profit. Filsca cannot make a profit since it's a
> not-for-profit club and cannot, legally, show an income. What's more,

filsca
> is not owned by anyone except the member leagues - which are, in turn,
> 'owned' by their drivers - as such, filsca cannot 'take over' anything

since
> filsca is the sim racers and is owned, 100%, by its members. As such, the
> idea that it can take over sim racing is, as said, fanciful at best. What
> filsca does do, however, is empower its own members to protect simracing
> from the vultures that always circle around any 'sport' for profit.


It seems there's as much competition off the track as there is on!
When they make a show of jealously like that you know you're on the right
track.

I personally wish you a lot of luck with FILSCA. I don't see why anyone
should be threatened by you - you are both unique and overdue. Drivers can
go there and find a league taylor made for them. League admins can go there
and see how other leagues do things and learn from each other. I really look
forward to seeing you grow and develope into a valuable and exciting
resourse for all - who knows, you might even take over all of sim racing!
LOL.


 




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