2005 Grand Caravan SXT-any feedback, please?

Hi, Am coming down to the wire on purchasing a car, and the grand
caravan sxt is probably the one, with 3.8, power doors, liftgate, locks,
air, and cd...my 96 grand caravan is being quoted at around 2,500 on
trade, and I wanted to hear from people that might have bought one,
considered buying but didn't etc...Any comments appreciated..tks, Rusty
P.S. Also, is chrysler financial a good financing arm, or should I do
home equity?

With gas prices going up I would definitely consider the Sienna though I am
no Toyota fan. It happens to get superior mileage and even though it will
cost more up front, Toyota keeps great resale value for reasons I do not
comprehend. Expect 10 percent better mileage than the Caravan.


"Rusty" > wrote in message
...
> Hi, Am coming down to the wire on purchasing a car, and the grand caravan
> sxt is probably the one, with 3.8, power doors, liftgate, locks, air, and
> cd...my 96 grand caravan is being quoted at around 2,500 on trade, and I
> wanted to hear from people that might have bought one, considered buying
> but didn't etc...Any comments appreciated..tks, Rusty
> P.S. Also, is chrysler financial a good financing arm, or should I do home
> equity?

"Art" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> With gas prices going up I would definitely consider the Sienna though I
am
> no Toyota fan. It happens to get superior mileage and even though it will
> cost more up front, Toyota keeps great resale value for reasons I do not
> comprehend. Expect 10 percent better mileage than the Caravan.
>
>
> "Rusty" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi, Am coming down to the wire on purchasing a car, and the grand
caravan
> > sxt is probably the one, with 3.8, power doors, liftgate, locks, air,
and
> > cd...my 96 grand caravan is being quoted at around 2,500 on trade, and I
> > wanted to hear from people that might have bought one, considered buying
> > but didn't etc...Any comments appreciated..tks, Rusty
> > P.S. Also, is chrysler financial a good financing arm, or should I do
home
> > equity?
>
>

Well, I'm one of those that comes from the position that if you don't have
the
money saved up to buy a new car you shouldn't be buying it.

Anyway, as far as the home equity vs Chrysler Financial, what is the
interest
rate your paying on your home now, and how much equity do you have in it?
Rather than a home equity loan you might just consider a regular car loan,
then
once you get the car refinance your home and roll the car loan into that, if
it will
get you a better interest rate on your home, that is.

Don't listen to the idiot about the Toyota, if you are seriously considering
that
then post in the Toyota Usenet forum, and get some honest responses, rather
than a single response from a crank who isn't even in the right newsgroup.

Ted

"Ted Mittelstaedt" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Art" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
>> With gas prices going up I would definitely consider the Sienna though I
> am
>> no Toyota fan. It happens to get superior mileage and even though it
>> will
>> cost more up front, Toyota keeps great resale value for reasons I do not
>> comprehend. Expect 10 percent better mileage than the Caravan.
>>
>>
>> "Rusty" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Hi, Am coming down to the wire on purchasing a car, and the grand
> caravan
>> > sxt is probably the one, with 3.8, power doors, liftgate, locks, air,
> and
>> > cd...my 96 grand caravan is being quoted at around 2,500 on trade, and
>> > I
>> > wanted to hear from people that might have bought one, considered
>> > buying
>> > but didn't etc...Any comments appreciated..tks, Rusty
>> > P.S. Also, is chrysler financial a good financing arm, or should I do
> home
>> > equity?
>>
>>
>
> Well, I'm one of those that comes from the position that if you don't have
> the
> money saved up to buy a new car you shouldn't be buying it.
>
> Anyway, as far as the home equity vs Chrysler Financial, what is the
> interest
> rate your paying on your home now, and how much equity do you have in it?
> Rather than a home equity loan you might just consider a regular car loan,
> then
> once you get the car refinance your home and roll the car loan into that,
> if
> it will
> get you a better interest rate on your home, that is.
>
> Don't listen to the idiot about the Toyota, if you are seriously
> considering
> that
> then post in the Toyota Usenet forum, and get some honest responses,
> rather
> than a single response from a crank who isn't even in the right newsgroup.
>
> Ted

Sorry Ted to hurt your Chrysler loving feelings but I own a 300M so I have a
perfect right to be in this group. Just so happens I have a Toyota Avalon
too which I don't particularly like but that is besides the point. The
original poster requested any comments. Fact is that Chrysler minivans get
relatively poor mileage. With gas prices likely to go thru the roof and
this guy obviously concerned about money, alteratives should be considered.
The Sienna gets remarkably decent mileage for a minivan.

"Art" > wrote in message
ink.net...
>
>
> Sorry Ted to hurt your Chrysler loving feelings but I own a 300M so I have
a
> perfect right to be in this group. Just so happens I have a Toyota Avalon
> too which I don't particularly like but that is besides the point. The
> original poster requested any comments. Fact is that Chrysler minivans
get
> relatively poor mileage. With gas prices likely to go thru the roof and
> this guy obviously concerned about money, alteratives should be
considered.
> The Sienna gets remarkably decent mileage for a minivan.
>

From the Toyota website, the Sienna XLE with a curb weight of 4165 and a
3.3L engine developing 230hp @ 5600 rpm, and 242 lb-ft @ 3600 rpm, is
rated 19/26 city/highway MPG.

From the Dodge website the Caravan SXT with a curb weight of 4252 and a
3.8L engine developing 215hp @ 5000 rpm, and 245 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm, is
rated 18/25 city/highway MPG.

So I think your assertion that the Caravan gets poor mileage compared to the
Toyota is a big pile of poop. Unless that is you consider ONE mpg to be
"relatively poor". And the Caravan engine is a more powerful one than the
Toyota, which might mean the difference between a successful pass on a
2 lane country road or being stuck behind some crackerbox for 100 miles.

In any case, gas mileage is more a factor of the driver than anything else.
A
poofball on the Caravan will get better gas mileage than a leadfoot on the
Toyota no matter how much you argue that the Toyota is so much better.
(which it ain't)

If the OP was really concerned about money, he wouldn't be shopping for
a new car. He has the money (or thinks he has) he just wants to make sure
he's won't feel like he spent too much money after he's bought it.

Ted

Rusty wrote:
> Hi, Am coming down to the wire on purchasing a car, and the grand
> caravan sxt is probably the one, with 3.8, power doors, liftgate, locks,
> air, and cd...my 96 grand caravan is being quoted at around 2,500 on
> trade, and I wanted to hear from people that might have bought one,
> considered buying but didn't etc...Any comments appreciated..tks, Rusty
> P.S. Also, is chrysler financial a good financing arm, or should I do
> home equity?
'05 SXT is number 5 Chrysler minivan since 1988. Now have 6500 miles
on this vehicle: Good points. Disk brakes all around. Fold down
seating. The folks on the commercial are well practiced, but the fold
down seats are a billion skillion times better than physically moving
the old style seats. Bad points. Dash board gauges. In bright
sunlight with sunglasses, and if the gauges are in shadow, I cannot read
them. Power lift gate, power side doors. The extra weight pushes the
3.8 just a little bit to far. It's almost under powered. Other wise, a
routine Chrysler van. If you take care of it, it will take care of you.
Regds

In Consumer Reports real world tests, overall mileage for the chrysler vans
were 17 mgp. The Sienna and the smaller Honda Odessey did 19 mpg. There
were a couple of models that got 16. I believe Kia was one.



"Ted Mittelstaedt" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Art" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
>>
>>
>> Sorry Ted to hurt your Chrysler loving feelings but I own a 300M so I
>> have
> a
>> perfect right to be in this group. Just so happens I have a Toyota
>> Avalon
>> too which I don't particularly like but that is besides the point. The
>> original poster requested any comments. Fact is that Chrysler minivans
> get
>> relatively poor mileage. With gas prices likely to go thru the roof and
>> this guy obviously concerned about money, alteratives should be
> considered.
>> The Sienna gets remarkably decent mileage for a minivan.
>>
>
> From the Toyota website, the Sienna XLE with a curb weight of 4165 and a
> 3.3L engine developing 230hp @ 5600 rpm, and 242 lb-ft @ 3600 rpm, is
> rated 19/26 city/highway MPG.
>
> From the Dodge website the Caravan SXT with a curb weight of 4252 and a
> 3.8L engine developing 215hp @ 5000 rpm, and 245 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm, is
> rated 18/25 city/highway MPG.
>
> So I think your assertion that the Caravan gets poor mileage compared to
> the
> Toyota is a big pile of poop. Unless that is you consider ONE mpg to be
> "relatively poor". And the Caravan engine is a more powerful one than the
> Toyota, which might mean the difference between a successful pass on a
> 2 lane country road or being stuck behind some crackerbox for 100 miles.
>
> In any case, gas mileage is more a factor of the driver than anything
> else.
> A
> poofball on the Caravan will get better gas mileage than a leadfoot on the
> Toyota no matter how much you argue that the Toyota is so much better.
> (which it ain't)
>
> If the OP was really concerned about money, he wouldn't be shopping for
> a new car. He has the money (or thinks he has) he just wants to make sure
> he's won't feel like he spent too much money after he's bought it.
>
> Ted
>
>