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  #1  
Old December 30th 05, 11:28 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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I saw that someone had requested an update on the stolen Jeep situation.

The driver was let out of jail last Wednesday, Dec 21st. This mean he served
4 days. He was caught in my stolen vehicle, attempted to evade police,
crashed my stolen vehicle, had drugs on him, had a fake driver's license,
and had a fake social security card. He also fought with police and tried to
run away after crashing my Jeep. I can't belive they let him out of jail..

The two passengers were released on the Monday following their capture (Dec
19th). They will not be charged.

I paid the $300 impound fee and my Jeep has since been taken to Affordable
Auto Wrecking in Seattle. It's no longer my Jeep, and I wasn't able to get
any of my parts from it.

I spoke with victom's assitance, they advised me that the prosecuter would
probably drop all but one of the charges if the driver pleads guilty to
possesion of my stolen vehicle.

The detective said that the driver won't show up for his court date, and
will be convicted of possesion of a stolen vehicle by default. The other
charges will still be dropped. He'll have a bench warrant for his arrest.
There will be a restitution hearing shortly thereafter. The judge will
decide how much (if any) restitution is nesesarry. Victom's assitance said
that even though the state will order him to pay restituion (if I am awarded
any), he won't, and the state won't make him pay. In short, she told me that
I was best off to "Get over it". Some assitance...

Since then, my apartment has been robbed, probably by the same guys. They
got some pretty good stuff. Luckily, I have renter's insurance. The
apartment complex tried to tell me that *I* would be paying for the broken
window. I'm moving.

What's the good news? I got some new wheels on the Mustang.
http://photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/

Still not sure what to replace the Jeep with, if anything.

Whats the moral of the story? Never, ever, ever let anyone move to an
apartment in Federal Way, WA.

Well, thats the update.

Carl


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  #2  
Old December 30th 05, 11:48 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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Sorry to hear about the BS the dirt bags put you through my two friends Mr.
Smith and Wesson would looking up those guys and for sure they would not do
it again. What goes around comes around.

Coasty

"Carl" > wrote in message
...
>I saw that someone had requested an update on the stolen Jeep situation.
>
> The driver was let out of jail last Wednesday, Dec 21st. This mean he
> served 4 days. He was caught in my stolen vehicle, attempted to evade
> police, crashed my stolen vehicle, had drugs on him, had a fake driver's
> license, and had a fake social security card. He also fought with police
> and tried to run away after crashing my Jeep. I can't belive they let him
> out of jail..
>
> The two passengers were released on the Monday following their capture
> (Dec 19th). They will not be charged.
>
> I paid the $300 impound fee and my Jeep has since been taken to Affordable
> Auto Wrecking in Seattle. It's no longer my Jeep, and I wasn't able to get
> any of my parts from it.
>
> I spoke with victom's assitance, they advised me that the prosecuter would
> probably drop all but one of the charges if the driver pleads guilty to
> possesion of my stolen vehicle.
>
> The detective said that the driver won't show up for his court date, and
> will be convicted of possesion of a stolen vehicle by default. The other
> charges will still be dropped. He'll have a bench warrant for his arrest.
> There will be a restitution hearing shortly thereafter. The judge will
> decide how much (if any) restitution is nesesarry. Victom's assitance said
> that even though the state will order him to pay restituion (if I am
> awarded any), he won't, and the state won't make him pay. In short, she
> told me that I was best off to "Get over it". Some assitance...
>
> Since then, my apartment has been robbed, probably by the same guys. They
> got some pretty good stuff. Luckily, I have renter's insurance. The
> apartment complex tried to tell me that *I* would be paying for the broken
> window. I'm moving.
>
> What's the good news? I got some new wheels on the Mustang.
> http://photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/
>
> Still not sure what to replace the Jeep with, if anything.
>
> Whats the moral of the story? Never, ever, ever let anyone move to an
> apartment in Federal Way, WA.
>
> Well, thats the update.
>
> Carl
>



  #3  
Old December 31st 05, 12:01 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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Default Stolen Jeep update

Carl did pass the time by typing:
> I saw that someone had requested an update on the stolen Jeep situation.
>
> The driver was let out of jail last Wednesday, Dec 21st. This mean he served
> 4 days. He was caught in my stolen vehicle, attempted to evade police,
> crashed my stolen vehicle, had drugs on him, had a fake driver's license,
> and had a fake social security card. He also fought with police and tried to
> run away after crashing my Jeep. I can't belive they let him out of jail..
>
> The two passengers were released on the Monday following their capture (Dec
> 19th). They will not be charged.
>
> I paid the $300 impound fee and my Jeep has since been taken to Affordable
> Auto Wrecking in Seattle. It's no longer my Jeep, and I wasn't able to get
> any of my parts from it.


You paid the fee and the jeep isn't yours? Hell, if that was the case I
wouldn't have paid the fee at all. I assume you are going to get the salvage
value?

> I spoke with victom's assitance, they advised me that the prosecuter would
> probably drop all but one of the charges if the driver pleads guilty to
> possesion of my stolen vehicle.


Wow.. Washington's law enforcement sucks. Around here that's felony evasion
and prosicuted.

> The detective said that the driver won't show up for his court date, and
> will be convicted of possesion of a stolen vehicle by default. The other
> charges will still be dropped. He'll have a bench warrant for his arrest.
> There will be a restitution hearing shortly thereafter. The judge will
> decide how much (if any) restitution is nesesarry. Victom's assitance said
> that even though the state will order him to pay restituion (if I am awarded
> any), he won't, and the state won't make him pay. In short, she told me that
> I was best off to "Get over it". Some assitance...


You should be able to attach any state or federal tax return. Depends on the
state.

> Since then, my apartment has been robbed, probably by the same guys. They
> got some pretty good stuff. Luckily, I have renter's insurance. The
> apartment complex tried to tell me that *I* would be paying for the broken
> window. I'm moving.
>
> What's the good news? I got some new wheels on the Mustang.
> http://photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/
>
> Still not sure what to replace the Jeep with, if anything.
>
> Whats the moral of the story? Never, ever, ever let anyone move to an
> apartment in Federal Way, WA.
>
> Well, thats the update.


Given the crap the legal system is doing to you I'd be talking to the local news
station. Political heat sometimes brings better results and a prosecutor cornered
by the press is more likely to get of his/her ass and do the job properly.

And you have enough to make a good news story.

--
DougW


  #4  
Old December 31st 05, 12:17 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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I contaced several local news stations. I haven't gotten a response yet.

Carl

"DougW" > wrote in message
news:ATjtf.35983$Mi5.7769@dukeread07...
> Carl did pass the time by typing:
>> I saw that someone had requested an update on the stolen Jeep situation.
>>
>> The driver was let out of jail last Wednesday, Dec 21st. This mean he
>> served
>> 4 days. He was caught in my stolen vehicle, attempted to evade police,
>> crashed my stolen vehicle, had drugs on him, had a fake driver's license,
>> and had a fake social security card. He also fought with police and tried
>> to
>> run away after crashing my Jeep. I can't belive they let him out of
>> jail..
>>
>> The two passengers were released on the Monday following their capture
>> (Dec
>> 19th). They will not be charged.
>>
>> I paid the $300 impound fee and my Jeep has since been taken to
>> Affordable
>> Auto Wrecking in Seattle. It's no longer my Jeep, and I wasn't able to
>> get
>> any of my parts from it.

>
> You paid the fee and the jeep isn't yours? Hell, if that was the case I
> wouldn't have paid the fee at all. I assume you are going to get the
> salvage
> value?
>
>> I spoke with victom's assitance, they advised me that the prosecuter
>> would
>> probably drop all but one of the charges if the driver pleads guilty to
>> possesion of my stolen vehicle.

>
> Wow.. Washington's law enforcement sucks. Around here that's felony
> evasion
> and prosicuted.
>
>> The detective said that the driver won't show up for his court date, and
>> will be convicted of possesion of a stolen vehicle by default. The other
>> charges will still be dropped. He'll have a bench warrant for his arrest.
>> There will be a restitution hearing shortly thereafter. The judge will
>> decide how much (if any) restitution is nesesarry. Victom's assitance
>> said
>> that even though the state will order him to pay restituion (if I am
>> awarded
>> any), he won't, and the state won't make him pay. In short, she told me
>> that
>> I was best off to "Get over it". Some assitance...

>
> You should be able to attach any state or federal tax return. Depends on
> the
> state.
>
>> Since then, my apartment has been robbed, probably by the same guys. They
>> got some pretty good stuff. Luckily, I have renter's insurance. The
>> apartment complex tried to tell me that *I* would be paying for the
>> broken
>> window. I'm moving.
>>
>> What's the good news? I got some new wheels on the Mustang.
>> http://photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/
>>
>> Still not sure what to replace the Jeep with, if anything.
>>
>> Whats the moral of the story? Never, ever, ever let anyone move to an
>> apartment in Federal Way, WA.
>>
>> Well, thats the update.

>
> Given the crap the legal system is doing to you I'd be talking to the
> local news
> station. Political heat sometimes brings better results and a prosecutor
> cornered
> by the press is more likely to get of his/her ass and do the job properly.
>
> And you have enough to make a good news story.
>
> --
> DougW
>



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Old December 31st 05, 12:30 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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If I remember, plenty of places to get "lost" in Washington.


--
Old Jeeps are kinda like old Harley's,
but with four wheels
and no STD'S on the seat.


  #6  
Old December 31st 05, 12:31 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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Oh my gad. I am so sorry!!! That is absolutly awful. If you paid the impound fee,
your insurance should be covering that, since if its not yours, its theirs. Also,
you have every right to go to where ever it is and pull your stuff out of it.
Anything thats not an integeral part. After I totaled mine, I went and pulled
everything from lock boxes to lights and floor mats, even the back seat (well, I took
that while it was still at the body shop). Anything that was "personal" is still
yours...at least it should be unless they are paying you for it.

You are right, probably the same guys I bet. After all they knew where you live -
info is on the registration in the glove box - either that or the guys at the
wrecking yard have a good racket going I think.

All the more reason I hate living in the city!!! No, you shouldnt be responsible for
the window. Especially if you have renters insurance.

I sure hope you have good luck finding a new place and a "new" Jeep!
-jenn




On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 15:28:00 -0800, "Carl" > wrote:

>>I saw that someone had requested an update on the stolen Jeep situation.
>>
>>The driver was let out of jail last Wednesday, Dec 21st. This mean he served
>>4 days. He was caught in my stolen vehicle, attempted to evade police,
>>crashed my stolen vehicle, had drugs on him, had a fake driver's license,
>>and had a fake social security card. He also fought with police and tried to
>>run away after crashing my Jeep. I can't belive they let him out of jail..
>>
>>The two passengers were released on the Monday following their capture (Dec
>>19th). They will not be charged.
>>
>>I paid the $300 impound fee and my Jeep has since been taken to Affordable
>>Auto Wrecking in Seattle. It's no longer my Jeep, and I wasn't able to get
>>any of my parts from it.
>>
>>I spoke with victom's assitance, they advised me that the prosecuter would
>>probably drop all but one of the charges if the driver pleads guilty to
>>possesion of my stolen vehicle.
>>
>>The detective said that the driver won't show up for his court date, and
>>will be convicted of possesion of a stolen vehicle by default. The other
>>charges will still be dropped. He'll have a bench warrant for his arrest.
>>There will be a restitution hearing shortly thereafter. The judge will
>>decide how much (if any) restitution is nesesarry. Victom's assitance said
>>that even though the state will order him to pay restituion (if I am awarded
>>any), he won't, and the state won't make him pay. In short, she told me that
>>I was best off to "Get over it". Some assitance...
>>
>>Since then, my apartment has been robbed, probably by the same guys. They
>>got some pretty good stuff. Luckily, I have renter's insurance. The
>>apartment complex tried to tell me that *I* would be paying for the broken
>>window. I'm moving.
>>
>>What's the good news? I got some new wheels on the Mustang.
>>http://photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/
>>
>>Still not sure what to replace the Jeep with, if anything.
>>
>>Whats the moral of the story? Never, ever, ever let anyone move to an
>>apartment in Federal Way, WA.
>>
>>Well, thats the update.
>>
>>Carl
>>

  #7  
Old December 31st 05, 12:40 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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That is a real drag... I would for sure want money or parts for the
wreck! I mean you own it right?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Carl wrote:
>
> I saw that someone had requested an update on the stolen Jeep situation.
>
> The driver was let out of jail last Wednesday, Dec 21st. This mean he served
> 4 days. He was caught in my stolen vehicle, attempted to evade police,
> crashed my stolen vehicle, had drugs on him, had a fake driver's license,
> and had a fake social security card. He also fought with police and tried to
> run away after crashing my Jeep. I can't belive they let him out of jail..
>
> The two passengers were released on the Monday following their capture (Dec
> 19th). They will not be charged.
>
> I paid the $300 impound fee and my Jeep has since been taken to Affordable
> Auto Wrecking in Seattle. It's no longer my Jeep, and I wasn't able to get
> any of my parts from it.
>
> I spoke with victom's assitance, they advised me that the prosecuter would
> probably drop all but one of the charges if the driver pleads guilty to
> possesion of my stolen vehicle.
>
> The detective said that the driver won't show up for his court date, and
> will be convicted of possesion of a stolen vehicle by default. The other
> charges will still be dropped. He'll have a bench warrant for his arrest.
> There will be a restitution hearing shortly thereafter. The judge will
> decide how much (if any) restitution is nesesarry. Victom's assitance said
> that even though the state will order him to pay restituion (if I am awarded
> any), he won't, and the state won't make him pay. In short, she told me that
> I was best off to "Get over it". Some assitance...
>
> Since then, my apartment has been robbed, probably by the same guys. They
> got some pretty good stuff. Luckily, I have renter's insurance. The
> apartment complex tried to tell me that *I* would be paying for the broken
> window. I'm moving.
>
> What's the good news? I got some new wheels on the Mustang.
> http://photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/
>
> Still not sure what to replace the Jeep with, if anything.
>
> Whats the moral of the story? Never, ever, ever let anyone move to an
> apartment in Federal Way, WA.
>
> Well, thats the update.
>
> Carl

  #8  
Old December 31st 05, 12:59 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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Yes, I owned it outright. I was told I could not take anything would impair
the movement of the truck, IE: wheels, tires, springs, axles, ect. I was
able to get my hi-lift and tools.

Carl


"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
...
> That is a real drag... I would for sure want money or parts for the
> wreck! I mean you own it right?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Carl wrote:
>>
>> I saw that someone had requested an update on the stolen Jeep situation.
>>
>> The driver was let out of jail last Wednesday, Dec 21st. This mean he
>> served
>> 4 days. He was caught in my stolen vehicle, attempted to evade police,
>> crashed my stolen vehicle, had drugs on him, had a fake driver's license,
>> and had a fake social security card. He also fought with police and tried
>> to
>> run away after crashing my Jeep. I can't belive they let him out of
>> jail..
>>
>> The two passengers were released on the Monday following their capture
>> (Dec
>> 19th). They will not be charged.
>>
>> I paid the $300 impound fee and my Jeep has since been taken to
>> Affordable
>> Auto Wrecking in Seattle. It's no longer my Jeep, and I wasn't able to
>> get
>> any of my parts from it.
>>
>> I spoke with victom's assitance, they advised me that the prosecuter
>> would
>> probably drop all but one of the charges if the driver pleads guilty to
>> possesion of my stolen vehicle.
>>
>> The detective said that the driver won't show up for his court date, and
>> will be convicted of possesion of a stolen vehicle by default. The other
>> charges will still be dropped. He'll have a bench warrant for his arrest.
>> There will be a restitution hearing shortly thereafter. The judge will
>> decide how much (if any) restitution is nesesarry. Victom's assitance
>> said
>> that even though the state will order him to pay restituion (if I am
>> awarded
>> any), he won't, and the state won't make him pay. In short, she told me
>> that
>> I was best off to "Get over it". Some assitance...
>>
>> Since then, my apartment has been robbed, probably by the same guys. They
>> got some pretty good stuff. Luckily, I have renter's insurance. The
>> apartment complex tried to tell me that *I* would be paying for the
>> broken
>> window. I'm moving.
>>
>> What's the good news? I got some new wheels on the Mustang.
>> http://photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/
>>
>> Still not sure what to replace the Jeep with, if anything.
>>
>> Whats the moral of the story? Never, ever, ever let anyone move to an
>> apartment in Federal Way, WA.
>>
>> Well, thats the update.
>>
>> Carl



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Old December 31st 05, 02:06 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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That is only the case if the insurance is paying you for the vehicle.
Otherwise you can have it towed to your driveway and do with it as you
please once the cops are dome with it.

Mike

Carl wrote:
>
> Yes, I owned it outright. I was told I could not take anything would impair
> the movement of the truck, IE: wheels, tires, springs, axles, ect. I was
> able to get my hi-lift and tools.
>
> Carl
>
> "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
> ...
> > That is a real drag... I would for sure want money or parts for the
> > wreck! I mean you own it right?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Carl wrote:
> >>
> >> I saw that someone had requested an update on the stolen Jeep situation.
> >>
> >> The driver was let out of jail last Wednesday, Dec 21st. This mean he
> >> served
> >> 4 days. He was caught in my stolen vehicle, attempted to evade police,
> >> crashed my stolen vehicle, had drugs on him, had a fake driver's license,
> >> and had a fake social security card. He also fought with police and tried
> >> to
> >> run away after crashing my Jeep. I can't belive they let him out of
> >> jail..
> >>
> >> The two passengers were released on the Monday following their capture
> >> (Dec
> >> 19th). They will not be charged.
> >>
> >> I paid the $300 impound fee and my Jeep has since been taken to
> >> Affordable
> >> Auto Wrecking in Seattle. It's no longer my Jeep, and I wasn't able to
> >> get
> >> any of my parts from it.
> >>
> >> I spoke with victom's assitance, they advised me that the prosecuter
> >> would
> >> probably drop all but one of the charges if the driver pleads guilty to
> >> possesion of my stolen vehicle.
> >>
> >> The detective said that the driver won't show up for his court date, and
> >> will be convicted of possesion of a stolen vehicle by default. The other
> >> charges will still be dropped. He'll have a bench warrant for his arrest.
> >> There will be a restitution hearing shortly thereafter. The judge will
> >> decide how much (if any) restitution is nesesarry. Victom's assitance
> >> said
> >> that even though the state will order him to pay restituion (if I am
> >> awarded
> >> any), he won't, and the state won't make him pay. In short, she told me
> >> that
> >> I was best off to "Get over it". Some assitance...
> >>
> >> Since then, my apartment has been robbed, probably by the same guys. They
> >> got some pretty good stuff. Luckily, I have renter's insurance. The
> >> apartment complex tried to tell me that *I* would be paying for the
> >> broken
> >> window. I'm moving.
> >>
> >> What's the good news? I got some new wheels on the Mustang.
> >> http://photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/
> >>
> >> Still not sure what to replace the Jeep with, if anything.
> >>
> >> Whats the moral of the story? Never, ever, ever let anyone move to an
> >> apartment in Federal Way, WA.
> >>
> >> Well, thats the update.
> >>
> >> Carl

  #10  
Old December 31st 05, 02:17 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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NO No No...
It's YOUR vehicle!
Did they BUY it from you?

If not, then they have stolen it from you - period.

Dang Carl, you may have screwed yourself by letting them take it.

Sorry this is happening. I hope that you get some action from th news
stations. Or SOMETHING.
Do some research, find out what you can do, then do it. Get mean, be tough
and kick some ass.

KJK


"Carl" > wrote in message
...
: Yes, I owned it outright. I was told I could not take anything would
impair
: the movement of the truck, IE: wheels, tires, springs, axles, ect. I was
: able to get my hi-lift and tools.
:
: Carl
:
:
: "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
: ...
: > That is a real drag... I would for sure want money or parts for the
: > wreck! I mean you own it right?
: >
: > Mike
: > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
: > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
: > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
: > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
: > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
: >
: > Carl wrote:
: >>
: >> I saw that someone had requested an update on the stolen Jeep
situation.
: >>
: >> The driver was let out of jail last Wednesday, Dec 21st. This mean he
: >> served
: >> 4 days. He was caught in my stolen vehicle, attempted to evade police,
: >> crashed my stolen vehicle, had drugs on him, had a fake driver's
license,
: >> and had a fake social security card. He also fought with police and
tried
: >> to
: >> run away after crashing my Jeep. I can't belive they let him out of
: >> jail..
: >>
: >> The two passengers were released on the Monday following their capture
: >> (Dec
: >> 19th). They will not be charged.
: >>
: >> I paid the $300 impound fee and my Jeep has since been taken to
: >> Affordable
: >> Auto Wrecking in Seattle. It's no longer my Jeep, and I wasn't able to
: >> get
: >> any of my parts from it.
: >>
: >> I spoke with victom's assitance, they advised me that the prosecuter
: >> would
: >> probably drop all but one of the charges if the driver pleads guilty to
: >> possesion of my stolen vehicle.
: >>
: >> The detective said that the driver won't show up for his court date,
and
: >> will be convicted of possesion of a stolen vehicle by default. The
other
: >> charges will still be dropped. He'll have a bench warrant for his
arrest.
: >> There will be a restitution hearing shortly thereafter. The judge will
: >> decide how much (if any) restitution is nesesarry. Victom's assitance
: >> said
: >> that even though the state will order him to pay restituion (if I am
: >> awarded
: >> any), he won't, and the state won't make him pay. In short, she told me
: >> that
: >> I was best off to "Get over it". Some assitance...
: >>
: >> Since then, my apartment has been robbed, probably by the same guys.
They
: >> got some pretty good stuff. Luckily, I have renter's insurance. The
: >> apartment complex tried to tell me that *I* would be paying for the
: >> broken
: >> window. I'm moving.
: >>
: >> What's the good news? I got some new wheels on the Mustang.
: >> http://photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/
: >>
: >> Still not sure what to replace the Jeep with, if anything.
: >>
: >> Whats the moral of the story? Never, ever, ever let anyone move to an
: >> apartment in Federal Way, WA.
: >>
: >> Well, thats the update.
: >>
: >> Carl
:
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