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I know I have preached about the vortex xl in the past but because of todays
experience I had with mine I am planning on sending mine to storage. Everything was going fine when I was going to use it to fix what I think is a reduced overeating problem. But after I turned it on the loose output hose slipped from underneath the glass at the top of the tank and spilled miserably onto 2 power strips and if there is a benevolent god I must thank him/her/it for giving me the insight to always use a gfci. The gfci tripped and I didn't feel a thing (2 of my toes were wet in the puddle), but I decided the mess wasn't worth it and I wish inner space products would come out with special hoses or something which would prevent what happened to me from happening to someone else. My vortex xl is officially designated to storage. I will use other options in the future. Could you even imagine what would have happened if I didn't use a gfci? seeing my life play back before my very eyes Any ways - good luck (like me!) and later! -- You can find my public key at https://keyserver1.pgp.com |
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On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 20:24:07 -0800, "Daniel Morrow"
wrote: I know I have preached about the vortex xl in the past but because of todays experience I had with mine I am planning on sending mine to storage. Everything was going fine when I was going to use it to fix what I think is a reduced overeating problem. But after I turned it on the loose output hose slipped from underneath the glass at the top of the tank and spilled miserably onto 2 power strips and if there is a benevolent god I must thank him/her/it for giving me the insight to always use a gfci. The gfci tripped and I didn't feel a thing (2 of my toes were wet in the puddle), but I decided the mess wasn't worth it and I wish inner space products would come out with special hoses or something which would prevent what happened to me from happening to someone else. My vortex xl is officially designated to storage. I will use other options in the future. Could you even imagine what would have happened if I didn't use a gfci? seeing my life play back before my very eyes Any ways - good luck (like me!) and later! I forget how they're made, haven't had one for a few years, but I wonder if a hose clamp wouldn't work to hold the hose on. I find that a HOT Magnum with the micron filter pollishes the water to my satisfaction. It's good you use the gfci, but without it probably nothing would have happened. I've reached into tanks with a broken heater, three days in a row. I've hav fluorescent lights fall into the tank, reached in and pullerd them out while they were still powered. I've had an extention cord outdoors when the rain made a puddle that submerged, the connection where two cords were plugged together, walked through the puddle. Lucky? maybe, but electricity isn't certain death. |
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![]() "Daniel Morrow" wrote in message ... But after I turned it on the loose output hose slipped from underneath the glass at the top of the tank and spilled miserably onto 2 power strips and if there is a benevolent god I must thank him/her/it for giving me the insight to always use a gfci. ========================= Try hose-clamps. All Lowe's, ACE Hardware and Home Depots carry them. They're less than a $1 each. -- Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995... Aquariums since 1952 My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastadaisy ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o |
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-- You can find my public key at https://keyserver1.pgp.com "Charles" wrote in message ... On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 20:24:07 -0800, "Daniel Morrow" wrote: I know I have preached about the vortex xl in the past but because of todays experience I had with mine I am planning on sending mine to storage. Everything was going fine when I was going to use it to fix what I think is a reduced overeating problem. But after I turned it on the loose output hose slipped from underneath the glass at the top of the tank and spilled miserably onto 2 power strips and if there is a benevolent god I must thank him/her/it for giving me the insight to always use a gfci. The gfci tripped and I didn't feel a thing (2 of my toes were wet in the puddle), but I decided the mess wasn't worth it and I wish inner space products would come out with special hoses or something which would prevent what happened to me from happening to someone else. My vortex xl is officially designated to storage. I will use other options in the future. Could you even imagine what would have happened if I didn't use a gfci? seeing my life play back before my very eyes Any ways - good luck (like me!) and later! I forget how they're made, haven't had one for a few years, but I wonder if a hose clamp wouldn't work to hold the hose on. It's easy to over tighten hose clamps - I accidentally did that and crushed a connection or two on my vortexes previous main body/chassis and had to replace it. Also - the other end of the hose (the free end/return) was what fell out, not the end connected to the vortex xl. I plan on getting a magnum 350 deluxe sometime soon anyways though. I find that a HOT Magnum with the micron filter pollishes the water to my satisfaction. It's good you use the gfci, but without it probably nothing would have happened. I've reached into tanks with a broken heater, three days in a row. I've hav fluorescent lights fall into the tank, reached in and pullerd them out while they were still powered. I've had an extention cord outdoors when the rain made a puddle that submerged, the connection where two cords were plugged together, walked through the puddle. Lucky? maybe, but electricity isn't certain death. True, I am experienced in electronics and LOVE electricity. |
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On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 23:27:16 -0800, "Daniel Morrow"
wrote: It's easy to over tighten hose clamps - I accidentally did that and crushed a connection or two on my vortexes previous main body/chassis and had to replace it. Also - the other end of the hose (the free end/return) was what fell out, not the end connected to the vortex xl. I plan on getting a magnum 350 deluxe sometime soon anyways though. for permanent connection, the 350 might be okay, I have pretty much abandoned mine, it's too hard to purge the air from it when it is first set up. It works well once it is going, but I hate inconvenience. The HOT magnum I like for a temporary setup for a couple days to clean up the water when it gets messy. I cleaned up green water in three days, I liked that. |
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-- You can find my public key at https://keyserver1.pgp.com "Charles" wrote in message ... On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 23:27:16 -0800, "Daniel Morrow" wrote: It's easy to over tighten hose clamps - I accidentally did that and crushed a connection or two on my vortexes previous main body/chassis and had to replace it. Also - the other end of the hose (the free end/return) was what fell out, not the end connected to the vortex xl. I plan on getting a magnum 350 deluxe sometime soon anyways though. for permanent connection, the 350 might be okay, I have pretty much abandoned mine, it's too hard to purge the air from it when it is first set up. It works well once it is going, but I hate inconvenience. The HOT magnum I like for a temporary setup for a couple days to clean up the water when it gets messy. I cleaned up green water in three days, I liked that. I know what you mean but I have for myself a solution. I made a little device that I can pump water into any canister filter with and totally prime them. The device consists of a bellows (cylindrical) type hand pump and some hose. The pump was bought brand new at a hardware store super cheap and it was originally intended by the manufacturer to be used to siphon kerosene. It works great - I use it with all of my canister filters - very useful! If you are interested on making your own check out my original post I posted about it here, do a search on google groups if you need to. The hot sounds pretty good - I am impressed you were able to get rid of green water like that with it. To me the hot seems more like a convenience item than a permanent solution (I prefer true canister filters). Good luck and later charles! |
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"Daniel Morrow" wrote in message
... I know I have preached about the vortex xl in the past but because of todays experience I had with mine I am planning on sending mine to storage. Everything was going fine when I was going to use it to fix what I think is a reduced overeating problem. But after I turned it on the loose output hose slipped from underneath the glass at the top of the tank and spilled miserably onto 2 power strips and if there is a benevolent god I must thank him/her/it for giving me the insight to always use a gfci. The gfci tripped and I didn't feel a thing (2 of my toes were wet in the puddle), but I decided the mess wasn't worth it and I wish inner space products would come out with special hoses or something which would prevent what happened to me from happening to someone else. My vortex xl is officially designated to storage. I will use other options in the future. Could you even imagine what would have happened if I didn't use a gfci? seeing my life play back before my very eyes Any ways - good luck (like me!) and later! I'm glad to hear that you're alright! -- www.NetMax.tk |
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-- You can find my public key at https://keyserver1.pgp.com "NetMax" wrote in message .. . "Daniel Morrow" wrote in message ... I know I have preached about the vortex xl in the past but because of todays experience I had with mine I am planning on sending mine to storage. Everything was going fine when I was going to use it to fix what I think is a reduced overeating problem. But after I turned it on the loose output hose slipped from underneath the glass at the top of the tank and spilled miserably onto 2 power strips and if there is a benevolent god I must thank him/her/it for giving me the insight to always use a gfci. The gfci tripped and I didn't feel a thing (2 of my toes were wet in the puddle), but I decided the mess wasn't worth it and I wish inner space products would come out with special hoses or something which would prevent what happened to me from happening to someone else. My vortex xl is officially designated to storage. I will use other options in the future. Could you even imagine what would have happened if I didn't use a gfci? seeing my life play back before my very eyes Any ways - good luck (like me!) and later! I'm glad to hear that you're alright! -- www.NetMax.tk Thanks netmax! To be honest I am starting to wonder if what happened was not such a big deal after all though. I just don't know. Good luck and later! |
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"Daniel Morrow" wrote in message
... Bottom posted. -- You can find my public key at https://keyserver1.pgp.com "NetMax" wrote in message .. . "Daniel Morrow" wrote in message ... I know I have preached about the vortex xl in the past but because of todays experience I had with mine I am planning on sending mine to storage. Everything was going fine when I was going to use it to fix what I think is a reduced overeating problem. But after I turned it on the loose output hose slipped from underneath the glass at the top of the tank and spilled miserably onto 2 power strips and if there is a benevolent god I must thank him/her/it for giving me the insight to always use a gfci. The gfci tripped and I didn't feel a thing (2 of my toes were wet in the puddle), but I decided the mess wasn't worth it and I wish inner space products would come out with special hoses or something which would prevent what happened to me from happening to someone else. My vortex xl is officially designated to storage. I will use other options in the future. Could you even imagine what would have happened if I didn't use a gfci? seeing my life play back before my very eyes Any ways - good luck (like me!) and later! I'm glad to hear that you're alright! -- www.NetMax.tk Thanks netmax! To be honest I am starting to wonder if what happened was not such a big deal after all though. I just don't know. Good luck and later! I have some background in electrical engineering. The determining factor tends to be whether a critical part of your body is the path of lowest resistance. If yes, it can be very difficult to remove yourself from the path if your muscles spasm. If no, then either the path's resistance will be low enough to trip a fuse (ie: 15-20amps) or not, and if not, it waits until some unfortunate comes along to provide that path, to conduct the current to a lower voltage potential (ie: earth ground). The bottom line, without a GFI, there is some luck involved. With a GFI, you're generally *quite* safe. -- www.NetMax.tk |
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