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In article >, jaybird wrote:
>> Last I heard the emergency rules didn't allow endangering others. > > Nope, they don't. Read the "due care" section. Anyone else who excercises that level of "due care" is cited for reckless driving. |
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"Brent P" > wrote in message ... > In article >, jaybird wrote: > >>> No he did ****ty. I was there. Had I not picked up he was a cop I would >>> have done something different and there would have been a crash. >> >> Using your psychic powers again? > > Why don't you read my posts again where I describe how I picked up it was > likely a police cruiser closing on me. I don't doubt that you figured out what it was. It was the crash prediction I was refering to. You could make lots of money if you can predict those. -- --- jaybird --- I am not the cause of your problems. My actions are the result of your actions. Your life is not my fault. |
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"Brent P" > wrote in message ... > In article >, jaybird wrote: >> >> "N8N" > wrote in message >> oups.com... >>> >>> jaybird wrote: >>>> "N8N" > wrote in message >>>> oups.com... >>>> > >>>> > JohnH wrote: >>>> >> >> Sounds like some good driving to me. They were able to get three >>>> >> >> units to a felony in progress through traffic without hitting >>>> >> >> anything or anyone. That's what I mean about police vehicles not >>>> >> >> being ordinary traffic and why I always give them plenty of room >>>> >> >> to >>>> >> >> pass or turn anytime I see one. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > So the cop that nearly cliped my car as he did 90mph down a 45mph >>>> >> > posted arterial road was just doing good driving? >>>> >> >>>> >> If I'm being held up I want the cops to have the accelerator to the >>>> >> floor. >>>> >> Perhaps you can let them know if you dial 911 to take their time, >>>> >> only >>>> >> drive >>>> >> posted speed limits and for pete's sake stay out of the left lane >>>> >> and >>>> >> not >>>> >> get near anyone else. >>>> >> >>>> >> (Then again I'm probably killfiled as you disagree with some things >>>> >> I >>>> >> say) >>>> > >>>> > How about just using lights and/or siren as appropriate BEFORE >>>> > driving >>>> > in an illegal manner, as the law requires? >>>> >>>> The law does not require that and in fact makes special clarification >>>> that >>>> driving with lights and/or siren activated can sometimes be more >>>> dangerous. >>>> The activation of emergency equipment is not required and is left to >>>> the >>>> discretion of the trained police vehicle operator (at least in Texas): >>>> >>> >>> ONLY in Texas. I don't believe the OP lives in Texas. >> >> No, you guys are all incorrect once again. In (625 ILCS 5/11-205) (Yes, >> Illinois!) it says practically the same thing. To paraphrase, it says: >> "The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle, when responding to an >> emergency call or when in the pursuit of an actual or suspected violator >> of >> the law... >> >> may: >> 1. Park or stand, irrespective of the provisions of >> this Chapter; >> >> 2. Proceed past a red or stop signal or stop sign, >> but only after slowing down as may be required and >> necessary for safe operation; >> >> 3. Exceed the maximum speed limits so long as he >> does not endanger life or property; >> >> 4. Disregard regulations governing direction of >> movement or turning in specified directions. >> >> >> This is the important part: >> >> (d) The exceptions herein granted to an authorized emergency vehicle, >> other >> than a police vehicle, shall apply only when the vehicle is making use of >> either an audible signal when in motion or visual signals meeting the >> requirements of Section 12-215 of this Act. >> >> So, it says the same thing that Texas law does. All emergency vehicles >> _except police vehicles_ are required to use a visual or audible signal >> when >> the above exemptions apply. The OP says that they were going to a >> robbery >> in progress, so they were perfectly legal in doing what they did. > > I don't see the license to drive recklessly. Also with out audible signal > and lights nobody has to yield to the cop. Hmm... maybe I should get > another beater car. No one is talking about yielding. -- --- jaybird --- I am not the cause of your problems. My actions are the result of your actions. Your life is not my fault. |
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In article >, jaybird wrote:
> > "Brent P" > wrote in message > ... >> In article >, jaybird wrote: >> >>>> No he did ****ty. I was there. Had I not picked up he was a cop I would >>>> have done something different and there would have been a crash. >>> >>> Using your psychic powers again? >> >> Why don't you read my posts again where I describe how I picked up it was >> likely a police cruiser closing on me. > > I don't doubt that you figured out what it was. It was the crash prediction > I was refering to. You could make lots of money if you can predict those. I wouldn't have to predict. I could have made it happen easily. He came that close to hitting me. had I done what I normally would have done, move right without accelerating, we would have likely collided. |
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"Brent P" > wrote in message ... > In article >, jaybird wrote: > >> Glad to hear it. > > Not surprising, you'd like to see me killed by a cop crashing into me > more than likely. No, you're my comic relief. > >>>> Sometimes it is easier to plan your movement being fairly >>>> certain that they are a constant. > >>> Yet if a non-cop drives that way, it's reckless. > >> Yes, but you have to go further than that. It has to be a cop meeting >> the >> criteria set in the applicable statute. > > You've just made the cops above the law, what's one more going to be? I haven't made anyone anything. I've merely pointed out the exemption to certain laws when police vehicles are responding to emergencies. > >>>> When you hit the lights and siren it is >>>> difficult to know where that person is going to end up by the time your >>>> vehicle is next to theirs. Even though everyone is required to move to >>>> the >>>> right, lots of people either don't, don't immediately, or try to go >>>> left >>>> because it's open. That makes it very hazardous when you're closing at >>>> a >>>> higher rate of speed than they are traveling. > >>> His not running lights greatly reduced safety. If he was running lights >>> I >>> would have punched the accelerator to make more room, instead I knew a >>> cop was closing on me fast and didn't dare do what was safe because it >>> wasn't legal. >>> >>> Now, your average lane blocking asshole would have seen some 'evil >>> speeder' coming up from behind, not picking up on the fine details of >>> ISP >>> cruisers and probably done something to punish the 'evil speeder'. >>> >>> So, he runs his risks both ways, but in only one way are people required >>> to yield to him. > >> Yes you're quite right there are risks both ways. By law, yeilding is >> required one of the ways but by using common sense and sometimes leaving >> things flowing the way they are, it sometimes makes it easier to >> anticipate >> the gaps. > > And if I had not properly identified him as a cop from tell-tale signs > few people know (I learned that one r.a.d and confirmed it with > observation of cop and non-cop crown vics and caprices, and former cop > car taxis) there would have been a crash. If I knew he was a cop in hurry > instead of one trying to trick me into speeding up, I could have made the > situation safe by accelerating. But see that's another nasty habbit of > cops, riding bumpers and coming up on people fast to get them to speed up > because that's the natural reaction and then ticketing them for it. At least now you're a little clearer on the law. I've done my service for the day. -- --- jaybird --- I am not the cause of your problems. My actions are the result of your actions. Your life is not my fault. |
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In article >, jaybird wrote:
>> I don't see the license to drive recklessly. Also with out audible signal >> and lights nobody has to yield to the cop. Hmm... maybe I should get >> another beater car. > No one is talking about yielding. Why don't you read the first post of the thread again. |
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"Brent P" > wrote in message ... > In article >, jaybird wrote: > >>> Last I heard the emergency rules didn't allow endangering others. >> >> Nope, they don't. Read the "due care" section. > > Anyone else who excercises that level of "due care" is cited for reckless > driving. Well yeah... it's the difference between personal vehicles and police vehicles. If you read the laws I posted it clears it up so that you're not so confused between the two. -- --- jaybird --- I am not the cause of your problems. My actions are the result of your actions. Your life is not my fault. |
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In article >, jaybird wrote:
>> few people know (I learned that one r.a.d and confirmed it with >> observation of cop and non-cop crown vics and caprices, and former cop >> car taxis) there would have been a crash. If I knew he was a cop in hurry >> instead of one trying to trick me into speeding up, I could have made the >> situation safe by accelerating. But see that's another nasty habbit of >> cops, riding bumpers and coming up on people fast to get them to speed up >> because that's the natural reaction and then ticketing them for it. > > At least now you're a little clearer on the law. I've done my service for > the day. Wooptie do... the cops got a law passed that makes what they would do anyway legal. |
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In article >, jaybird wrote:
> > "Brent P" > wrote in message > ... >> In article >, jaybird wrote: >> >>>> Last I heard the emergency rules didn't allow endangering others. >>> >>> Nope, they don't. Read the "due care" section. >> >> Anyone else who excercises that level of "due care" is cited for reckless >> driving. > > Well yeah... it's the difference between personal vehicles and police > vehicles. If you read the laws I posted it clears it up so that you're not > so confused between the two. And you wonder why people stop respecting the law. |
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"Brent P" > wrote in message ... > In article >, jaybird wrote: >> >> "Brent P" > wrote in message >> ... >>> In article >, jaybird wrote: >>> >>>>> No he did ****ty. I was there. Had I not picked up he was a cop I >>>>> would >>>>> have done something different and there would have been a crash. >>>> >>>> Using your psychic powers again? >>> >>> Why don't you read my posts again where I describe how I picked up it >>> was >>> likely a police cruiser closing on me. >> >> I don't doubt that you figured out what it was. It was the crash >> prediction >> I was refering to. You could make lots of money if you can predict >> those. > > I wouldn't have to predict. I could have made it happen easily. He came > that close to hitting me. had I done what I normally would have done, > move right without accelerating, we would have likely collided. Ok, Brent you win. Your superpowers are better than his. -- --- jaybird --- I am not the cause of your problems. My actions are the result of your actions. Your life is not my fault. |
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