A604-41TE Amsoil synthetic versus ATF+3 Mpoar 7176 ??

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> What the hell is going on?
>
> Right from the start I have been amazed at the
> level of animosity expressed here, toward anyone
> who points out, there are alternatives to Mopar
> ATF.
>
> I mean it is really over the top! I have been
> accused of everything, from selling a particular
> brand of full synthetic ATF, to being a cross
> dresser!
>
> What the hell is going on here? I just came here
> to give the Mopar guys a heads up.
>
> I kept expecting someone who isn't crazy, to
> speak up and actually say something that made
> some sort of sense, but no way. In fact it just
> gets worse.
>
> I just did a web search and looked around a bit.
>
> I see someone even tried to start a Usenet group
> about Amsoil. It has been completely silenced by
> spam though. I also noticed that anyone who
> speaks positively about non Mopar ATF, in other
> forums, is treated the same damned way.
>
> The very few posts which are not ludicrous rants,
> filled with ridiculous personal invective, are
> nothing more than doublespeak usually reserved
> for political propaganda.
>
> The tactics of propaganda remain consistent.
> Anyone who says there are alternatives to Mopar
> ATF, is smeared by any means necessary. I am
> surprised I haven't been accused of being anti
> American also.
>
> The man who developed Amsoil, pioneered both the
> development and production of, the very first
> synthetic automotive lubricants. That was long
> before Mobil 1, or any of the other synthetic
> oils available today. I really can't imagine why
> anyone would call snake oil. It doesn't make any
> sense at all.
>
> Consider this. The entire concept of synthetic
> oil was denounced as snake oil, until BIG OIL
> got on board with it. So is there a connection
> between BIG OIL, and all the irrational hate
> and misinformation involved in this war against
> Amsoil? I don't know. It is enough to really
> make me wonder though.

Yep! It is one big conspiracy. Big oil companies at the Chrysler newsgroup
trying to keep a lid on Scamsoil! You found us out.
P.S. didn't you say goodbye, like 10 times already?

David wrote:
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > What the hell is going on?
> >
> > Right from the start I have been amazed at the
> > level of animosity expressed here, toward anyone
> > who points out, there are alternatives to Mopar
> > ATF.
> >
> > I mean it is really over the top! I have been
> > accused of everything, from selling a particular
> > brand of full synthetic ATF, to being a cross
> > dresser!
> >
> > What the hell is going on here? I just came here
> > to give the Mopar guys a heads up.
> >
> > I kept expecting someone who isn't crazy, to
> > speak up and actually say something that made
> > some sort of sense, but no way. In fact it just
> > gets worse.
> >
> > I just did a web search and looked around a bit.
> >
> > I see someone even tried to start a Usenet group
> > about Amsoil. It has been completely silenced by
> > spam though. I also noticed that anyone who
> > speaks positively about non Mopar ATF, in other
> > forums, is treated the same damned way.
> >
> > The very few posts which are not ludicrous rants,
> > filled with ridiculous personal invective, are
> > nothing more than doublespeak usually reserved
> > for political propaganda.
> >
> > The tactics of propaganda remain consistent.
> > Anyone who says there are alternatives to Mopar
> > ATF, is smeared by any means necessary. I am
> > surprised I haven't been accused of being anti
> > American also.
> >
> > The man who developed Amsoil, pioneered both the
> > development and production of, the very first
> > synthetic automotive lubricants. That was long
> > before Mobil 1, or any of the other synthetic
> > oils available today. I really can't imagine why
> > anyone would call snake oil. It doesn't make any
> > sense at all.
> >
> > Consider this. The entire concept of synthetic
> > oil was denounced as snake oil, until BIG OIL
> > got on board with it. So is there a connection
> > between BIG OIL, and all the irrational hate
> > and misinformation involved in this war against
> > Amsoil? I don't know. It is enough to really
> > make me wonder though.
>
> Yep! It is one big conspiracy. Big oil companies at the Chrysler newsgroup
> trying to keep a lid on Scamsoil! You found us out.
> P.S. didn't you say goodbye, like 10 times already?
>
>
>

If you don't think some big corps don't do whatever
it takes to stomp their competition, then you are
either very naive, or just plain stupid.

> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> What the hell is going on?


what did you think would happen if you came to a chrysler group bashing
thier favorite product?
go to *any*group and bash what they are there about and see what you get.
have you posted your.........whatever in the Ford or GM groups?

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> What the hell is going on?
>
> Right from the start I have been amazed at the
> level of animosity expressed here, toward anyone
> who points out, there are alternatives to Mopar
> ATF.
>
> I mean it is really over the top! I have been
> accused of everything, from selling a particular
> brand of full synthetic ATF, to being a cross
> dresser!
>
> What the hell is going on here? I just came here
> to give the Mopar guys a heads up.
>
> I kept expecting someone who isn't crazy, to
> speak up and actually say something that made
> some sort of sense, but no way. In fact it just
> gets worse.
>
> I just did a web search and looked around a bit.
>
> I see someone even tried to start a Usenet group
> about Amsoil. It has been completely silenced by
> spam though. I also noticed that anyone who
> speaks positively about non Mopar ATF, in other
> forums, is treated the same damned way.
>
> The very few posts which are not ludicrous rants,
> filled with ridiculous personal invective, are
> nothing more than doublespeak usually reserved
> for political propaganda.
>
> The tactics of propaganda remain consistent.
> Anyone who says there are alternatives to Mopar
> ATF, is smeared by any means necessary. I am
> surprised I haven't been accused of being anti
> American also.
>
> The man who developed Amsoil, pioneered both the
> development and production of, the very first
> synthetic automotive lubricants. That was long
> before Mobil 1, or any of the other synthetic
> oils available today. I really can't imagine why
> anyone would call snake oil. It doesn't make any
> sense at all.
>
> Consider this. The entire concept of synthetic
> oil was denounced as snake oil, until BIG OIL
> got on board with it. So is there a connection
> between BIG OIL, and all the irrational hate
> and misinformation involved in this war against
> Amsoil? I don't know. It is enough to really
> make me wonder though.
>
Well, wonder about the fact that you've been expressing yourself like a
dickhead........

On 10 Jun 2005 12:34:35 -0700, wrote:


>
>If you don't think some big corps don't do whatever
>it takes to stomp their competition, then you are
>either very naive, or just plain stupid.


FINALLY.. You said something I can agree with. Your are correct that
some corporations don't do whatever it takes to stomp their
competition.

BTW... While you are looking up words in the dictionary you might
want to check for Good Bye as you obviously have no clue what it
means.... You keep using it over and over yet you still seem to be
here.

Steve B.

wrote:

> Matt,
>
> I guess I was pretty silly to think you actually
> wanted to discus this.

Always willing to discuss facts, physics, etc. However, discussing your
feelings about oil isn't all that satisfying to me.


> Obviously I was wrong though.

Only if you don't have data or facts.


> Have a good life.

I have, I am and I will!


Matt

Steve B. wrote:
> On 10 Jun 2005 12:34:35 -0700, wrote:
>
>
> >
> >If you don't think some big corps don't do whatever
> >it takes to stomp their competition, then you are
> >either very naive, or just plain stupid.
>
>
> FINALLY.. You said something I can agree with. Your are correct that
> some corporations don't do whatever it takes to stomp their
> competition.
>
>
>


Uh huh

If some do not, then some, perhaps most, certainly do.

Very good Steve.

wrote:
> What the hell is going on?
>
> Right from the start I have been amazed at the
> level of animosity expressed here, toward anyone
> who points out, there are alternatives to Mopar
> ATF.

That's nice. So what.

> I mean it is really over the top! I have been
> accused of everything, from selling a particular
> brand of full synthetic ATF, to being a cross
> dresser!

Yes - that's what they call one type of man who poses as a woman. So what.

> What the hell is going on here? I just came here
> to give the Mopar guys a heads up.

OK - you did it.

> I kept expecting someone who isn't crazy, to
> speak up and actually say something that made
> some sort of sense, but no way. In fact it just
> gets worse.

That's right. We're all crazy as loons. We like it that way. We drove
all the normal people off. We've been waiting for you to join us.

> I just did a web search and looked around a bit.
>
> I see someone even tried to start a Usenet group
> about Amsoil. It has been completely silenced by
> spam though. I also noticed that anyone who
> speaks positively about non Mopar ATF, in other
> forums, is treated the same damned way.

Gee that's funny. The guy who used to be president of a certain
MOPAR-centric club uses Amsoil ATF in his Chrysler car. I won't tell
you which club it is because, even though several people there are
friendly to Amsoil and some use it - they wouldn't want to hear your
meaningless crap either. On the other hand, there's five fingers - err
- I mean - if you happen to figure it out, that's OK too, 'cause they
can block you there, so knock yourself out trying to figure it out - it
wouldn't be hard to do.

> The very few posts which are not ludicrous rants,
> filled with ridiculous personal invective, are
> nothing more than doublespeak usually reserved
> for political propaganda.

Let's see...invective, invective... oh, OK, here it is - "violent verbal
attack". Ummm - OK - I'll buy that. I would try to immitate some
political propaganda double-speak for you, but I'm too tired right now.
However, you can probably pick up some Howard Dean sound bytes on TV
tonight on CNN or Fox News.

> The tactics of propaganda remain consistent.
> Anyone who says there are alternatives to Mopar
> ATF, is smeared by any means necessary...

Yes - we've all taken a pledge to do that whenever the opportunity
arises. At least we are consistent, eh? (I'm not from Canada - I just
like posting like that when I can.)

> ...I am
> surprised I haven't been accused of being anti
> American also.

OK - you're anti-American. Happy now?

> The man who developed Amsoil, pioneered both the
> development and production of, the very first
> synthetic automotive lubricants. That was long
> before Mobil 1, or any of the other synthetic
> oils available today. I really can't imagine why
> anyone would call snake oil. It doesn't make any
> sense at all.

I have nothing against Amsoil. I use certain herbs that I know work,
and people call it snake oil. So what.

> Consider this. The entire concept of synthetic
> oil was denounced as snake oil, until BIG OIL
> got on board with it. So is there a connection
> between BIG OIL, and all the irrational hate
> and misinformation involved in this war against
> Amsoil? I don't know. It is enough to really
> make me wonder though.

No surprise there. You will usually get a similar reaction if you post
that you are using Fram oil filters - that gets a little weird too
sometimes. I don't get freaked out about it though.

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
adddress with the letter 'x')

Bill Putney,

Are you one of those idiots from the FWD MOPAR Yahoo
group started by Jeremy Leis? He is the asshole who
started that rumor about me.

Now tell me that somebone who makes such an assumption
about me, because I am tall for a woman, doesn't have
some serious sexual issues.


For the record ASSHOLE. I am not a man. I have never
had a dick. I am not a sex change, and I am certainly
not a "cross dresser". Which is a word I had to look
up in the dictionary. By the way. Now how come you
know that obscure reference? It sure seems to be
insider terminology from what I can gather.


Either you 'are' Jeremy Leis or you are one of his
immensely homophobic buddies. I think you are Jeremy
Leis, and here is the proof that you DO have some
serious sexual issues.


http://www.dekalbsheriff.com/s=ADexoffenders.asp


Just scroll down the SEX OFFENDERS LIST until you
find the name Jeremy W. Leis. Hit on the link, and
you see will his picture along with his address. Oh,
by the way Leis. Your address had better be current
and correct. Or you have violated your PAROLE.


Intolerant homophobic gossips always have one thing
in common. They are OVER compensating, and they are
hiding something.=20


**** YOU CHILD MOLESTER

I bet Bill Putney is Jeremy Leis.

Go here to find his name on the DeKalb County
Indiana SEX OFFENDERS LIST.

http://www.dekalbsheriff.com/s=ADexoffenders.asp

Then just scroll down until you find his name.
Jeremy W. Leis. Then click on the link and you
will see his picture along with his address.

His address had better be current and correct.
Or it is back to prison with him. Sooner the
better I say.


Homophobic gossips always have one thing in common.

They are OVER compensating because they are hiding
something about themselves.