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Day 28 in the Big iRacing house <-- warning, long and about iRacing
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Day 28 in the Big iRacing house <-- warning, long and about iRacing
no@email (Remco Moedt) wrote:
> It made me cancel my subscription.... It's people like you that are destroying iRacing!!!!! Oh, hang on... and me. :-) Part of the reason I still struggle with the idea of returning is that I see no future for the current business model. I don't want to get too deeply drawn into a sim and community which I think is living on borrowed time and money. I am, however, usually wrong about most things in life. Which is why I hope to continue dipping my toe in and out. I doubt I will ever pay for more than a month at a time, and I envisage taking regular breaks from it... unless they alter the structure and I get involved in some kind of league. Though in general I'm inclined to agree with Groucho Marx. I wouldn't want to join any league which would have people like me as a member. ;-) Andrew McP |
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Day 28 in the Big iRacing house <-- warning, long and about iRacing
> I see no future for the current business model.
How long ago did I mention 3 years? Maybe there should be an informal pool on this. Place your bets ... > taking regular breaks from it Maybe wait until more content is released and/or included before trying it out again. |
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Day 28 in the Big iRacing house <-- warning, long and about iRacing
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 07:26 +0100 (BST), Andrew MacPherson wrote:
> league. Though in general I'm inclined to agree with Groucho Marx. I > wouldn't want to join any league which would have people like me as a > member. ;-) Hey Andy, we're starting a new season in mid-October based on rF and we'd be happy to have you at no charge at all ;-) All the best, Uwe -- |
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Day 28 in the Big iRacing house <-- warning, long and about
On Sep 12, 7:56*am, (Andrew
MacPherson) wrote: > I'm on record as saying the Legends car should be the only rookie vehicle.. > It might need a more conservative setup for complete novices, but it's > fun to drive and gives you an idea why iRacing can be so impressive. The Legends are a lot of fun on the ovals, but they're insanely grinsome on road courses. It's a real shame the races are only once a week, and then only on a mid-week, which makes it quite tough to participate. Still, they always run on the same track as the Skip Barber, which makes learning a wee bit easier. On the other hand, after spending some time honing the smooth slides of the Skip Barber, a few laps manhandling the Legends around the same track really messes up your balance! > I re-read that email whenever I weaken and want to test the Skip Barber > on my fledgling Tripleview setup. It helps quite a lot actually. Hmm, nice - what triple monitor setup do you use? Software or hardware based? I imagine it would be really good for immersion in the sim (if not so much fun on the 'leccy bills!). > PS I still get emails from the forums threads I'm subscribed to (I forgot > to change the settings before I left). It's the equivalent of sim racing > water torture watching those land regularly in my in-tray. :-) You haven't succumbed yet though? Next week the Skip Barber series is back at Summit Point, which is part of the default package. That would be an ideal time to join for some Skip Barber racing.... ;-) I'm pretty much going season by season. This time running Skip Barber and doing enough ovals to keep my SR up, and just move up the license classes. The racing is really enjoyable, and strangely is a lot cleaner than in the (non-iRacing) league I run in. I guess the SR threat must work! I still find it more fun racing with people I know, but at the same time that's not the way racing usually works - being on-track with your mates. So both are good, but I am expecting it's a concession iRacing will need to make to attract the business volume. It has a cost, but relative to what people spend on the paraphernalia to run their sims, it's sufficiently small. And, living outside the US, I must also say how grateful I am to the US government for their, frankly superhuman, efforts to turn the US dollar into worthless paper, and make it cheaper for us foreigners to race on iRacing. Sadly those efforts have been matched by the UK, and our "Great" British Pound is swirling down the toilet equally quickly, but I must thank them for their efforts... Cheers! John |
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Day 28 in the Big iRacing house <-- warning, long and about
(JohnW) wrote:
> It's a real shame the races are only once a > week, and then only on a mid-week, which > makes it quite tough to participate. Exactly. My whole problem with iRacing is not the really the cost, or even the annoying 'always on' SR racing, which does serve a purpose. It's the fact that they have a *great* product but refuse, so far, to put enough flexibility in their service. A half price service to be able to drive just the Legends cars on three or four open, no SR servers running different tracks would be a great advert for the sim IMO. The payment & registration would keep many of the muppets out, and those servers would also allow the main iRacing fraternity to let off a little steam whenever they wanted to. I love the sim code, I just get wound up by their way of serving it up. :-) > On the other hand, after spending some time honing the smooth > slides of the Skip Barber, a few laps manhandling the Legends > around the same track really messes up your balance! I think the main reason I got so heavily into GPL was the ability to stick with one car and drive it in every race. I'm barely good enough to cope with one vehicle and its behaviour/braking points etc, let alone two or more. But it'd be worth the effort if there were more fun races to enjoy. > Hmm, nice - what triple monitor setup do you use? Software or > hardware based? This thread (watch the wrap)... http://groups.google.com.vc/group/re...hread/bee03d90 d2664bb0 ....contains my experiences. I did a little experimenting with two screens (easy on Nvidia cards if you have two monitors handy) and ended up buying a Matrox Triplehead. I use a messy 19"crt, 17"lcd, 17"crt setup, which isn't ideal, but it's certainly good enough until I find three matched LCDs. I can't go back from widescreen now I've tried it. It makes racing a totally different experience. Absolutely incredible. I haven't tried the software solution (softTH) because I've only got one PCI-E slot, and although the second card doesn't have to be fast, it does need the bandwidth of a PCI-E slot, apparently. Tim Wheatley found that you can also get a 'free' triplehead by using the two DVI outputs and the TV-out. Whichever way you try it though, it really does have to be experienced to be believed. The peripheral vision is *so* immersive. I fired up the games box, and EVO yesterday for the first time in nearly a week and was freshly impressed. I'd sort of persuaded myself that it wasn't that important, and was starting to eye up a cheap 'normal' 16:9 widescreen monitor as a compromise. But no. That's slightly wider screen, not true widescreen! > (if not so much fun on the 'leccy bills!). My 19" CRT, which was what I used alone on the games box before, is 120W. 3x1280x1024 17" monitors may use as little as 105W. Obviously that goes up for bigger screens. But 50W is still quite a lot for an LCD, so my bills shouldn't get too out of hand. Having said that, I invested (in the same way that buying shares is an 'investment' these days ;-) in a GTX260 to drive three screen faster last week, and that sucks quite a few watts when thrashing pixels. > You haven't succumbed yet though? Too busy enjoying the turmoil on the world markets. While that sounds unpleasantly schadenfreude-ish, my pleasure comes from *finally* being proven right. For five years I've been marvelling at the way the US & UK have lived on increasing amounts of borrowed time & money. It just made no sense to me at all. And the more I studied, the less sense it made and the more concerned I became. It's always nice to be proved right... though I'd have preferred it to have happened a few years ago before the whole world got infected with corrupted debt. Anyone would think that was the plan all along.... put the world in a position where it can't afford *not* to bale out the banks. Though arguably that was always the case anyway... the relationship between banks and governments has always been somewhat incestuous, thanks to the role Central Banks play. Anyway, with things moving so fast out there I've been doing a lot of reading and not a lot of gaming. So the urge to rejoin went away... assisted by the news that in iRacing we'll soon be rubbing shoulders with a bunch of pick-up truck drivers. There ought to be laws to prevent that kind of thing. ;-) > So both are good, but I am expecting it's a concession iRacing > will need to make to attract the business volume. Yes, I don't buy the slow steady growth thing. At this rate it'll take about twenty years to break even, let alone get the initial investment back. Mr Henry may be generous, but he's not a charity! iRacing needs more bums on virtual seats sooner rather than later in order to achieve critical mass. > I must also say how grateful I am to the US government for their, > frankly superhuman, efforts to turn the US dollar into worthless > paper, and make it cheaper for us foreigners to race on iRacing. I've been experimenting with a little precious metal insurance against inflation (which is surely the only real way to destroy the debt mountain that's been created). So I've been keeping a close eye on this the exchange rate... http://finance.yahoo.com/currency/co...submit=Convert ....hoping to pick another sweet spot before the pound joins the dollar in a race towards wheelbarrow for a loaf of bread territory. It's probably a bit sad to be taking so much interest in this stuff, but no sadder, on balance, than sitting in front of a screen making Vroom! Vroom! noises. What, you don't? Oh, it's just me then. > You're right, Skippy is *so* much fun at Sears Point Yes, it's a very satisfying track once you get over the initial WTF! blind corners and elevation changes. I hated it and VIR at first (though I still get dangerously bored on that back straight at VIR) but both are very nice tracks to race on indeed. It sounds like the VIR week may be a useful time to start another month 'in'. If I can time it so I get to drive week 13, and another week in the next season that would be good. Then I'll be scoring... ok, donating points in two seasons, and having some fun as well. Having said that, talking about the tracks has whetted my appetite again, and I quite enjoyed Summit Point... though I was glad to escape before the Jefferson course. That was fun to test on, but must have been evil to race on! Andrew McP |
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Day 28 in the Big iRacing house <-- warning, long and about
Andrew MacPherson wrote:
> (JohnW) wrote: >> It's a real shame the races are only once a >> week, and then only on a mid-week, which >> makes it quite tough to participate. > > Exactly. My whole problem with iRacing... Erk, I didn't see that one coming! I went for the positive comment, but left the door open for an iRacing rant. Rookie, rookie usenet error by me! I can only say I haven't been here for a while and need to sharpen up... ;-) In fairness I think the Legends road-racing league is left as a kind of "Easter egg" - not many people know about it, but it's fun for the aficionados. > I think the main reason I got so heavily into GPL was the ability to stick with one > car and drive it in every race. I'm barely good enough to cope with one vehicle and > its behaviour/braking points etc, let alone two or more. But it'd be worth the > effort if there were more fun races to enjoy. The iRacing structure caters well to that - one chassis per league (so far), and several races/night to join. In league racing one a week or once a fortnight is usual, with pickup races inbetween. From that viewpoint I like iRacing, but it would benefit from tweaks, which will be added based upon experience as it develops. There seems to be feeling now that if open servers are allowed it will fracture the current membership - or it could add more. Which is correct, or are both, and to what degree? > Tim Wheatley found that you can also get a 'free' triplehead by using the two DVI > outputs and the TV-out. Whichever way you try it though, it really does have to be > experienced to be believed. The peripheral vision is *so* immersive. I fired up the > games box, and EVO yesterday for the first time in nearly a week and was freshly > impressed. I'd sort of persuaded myself that it wasn't that important, and was > starting to eye up a cheap 'normal' 16:9 widescreen monitor as a compromise. But no. > That's slightly wider screen, not true widescreen! The setups I've seen for triple screen are amazing, and I'm sorely tempted to try it. Unfortunately it's way down the financial queue (but.....!) :-) > It sounds like the VIR week may be a useful time to start another month 'in'. If I > can time it so I get to drive week 13, and another week in the next season that > would be good. Then I'll be scoring... ok, donating points in two seasons, and > having some fun as well. Week 13 might be a lot of fun, especially if we can race different car on the same track, or open up some races in Radical, that kind of thing. I imagine that must give iRacing themselves some ideas - what people go for, what's popular, what's not. > Having said that, talking about the tracks has whetted my appetite again, and I > quite enjoyed Summit Point... though I was glad to escape before the Jefferson > course. That was fun to test on, but must have been evil to race on! Oh, my SR graph quite clearly shows the "Jefferson dip". It's amazing how frequently, given no passing opportunity, people will decide to just drive through you! I actually quite liked Jefferson (the last turn is insane when nailing it right), but the races got samey - too many laps, and really tight, no mistakes, driving. Same with LRP - not really my thing. VIR I love, as with Sears, and the main Summit Point track, but I'm glad we can drop certain tracks in the season! Cheers! John |
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Day 28 in the Big iRacing house <-- warning, long and about
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