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Old May 31st 12, 08:33 AM posted to rec.ponds
Brian Watson[_2_]
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Default Silted up pond

I have a two-level triangular pond (approx 20' each side overall) which has
become very silted up with dust and muck blown in through the winter.

I have been quite diligent in removing leaves: it's the fine particle stuff
that is my problem.

The water is clear (I have a sturdy pump/filter which runs 8 hours a day)
but a lot of the muck that is building up on the bottom is not within the
pump's collection range.

Currently, as well as a good stocking of plants, I have frogs, tadpoles and
at least two species of newt co-existing quite happily with visiting
dragonflies etc etc.

All very "in balance" but the muck level is rising and I do need to get
quite a bit of it out with minimal impact on my wildlife.

Can you recommend a suction device with an effective front-end filter that
would shlurp up the muck but leave the tadpoles and other wildlife
unaffected?
--
Brian
"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."


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Old May 31st 12, 03:29 PM posted to rec.ponds
a425couple
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Default Silted up pond - into redneck

"Brian Watson" wrote in message...
I have a two-level triangular pond (approx 20' each side overall) which has
become very silted up with dust and muck blown in through the winter.
I have been quite diligent in removing leaves: it's the fine particle
stuff
that is my problem.
The water is clear (I have a sturdy pump/filter which runs 8 hours a day)
but a lot of the muck that is building up on the bottom is not within the
pump's collection range.
Currently, as well as a good stocking of plants, I have frogs, tadpoles
and
at least two species of newt co-existing quite happily with visiting
dragonflies etc etc.

All very "in balance" but the muck level is rising and I do need to get
quite a bit of it out with minimal impact on my wildlife.


Care to explain, if everything is good, why you feel
you need to get the muck out?

Can you recommend a suction device with an effective front-end filter that
would shlurp up the muck but leave the tadpoles and other wildlife
unaffected?


A couple years ago, I did a very "redneck" * solution.
I used a 16 gallon "wet/dry" vacume.
Put nozzle on bottom, best to have someone else
turn it on so you can be moving the intake sweep along
bottom (yeah!! things happen fast!), until 'bucket'
is about half full.
Yeah, any fish etc. stupid enough to out of silly
couriosity go swim over to check out this
strange 'sweep/nozzle' will feel they have been
VERY rudely treated. Very rapidly transported
from pond, through 'sweep' & large hose
into a bucket 1/2 full of very mucky water.
But, really nothing seriously injurious.
(since motor & propeller & filter are after
the holding bucket).

Remove lid (with motor & filter) and allow
to 'decant' (and you can sift through for any
good things you wish to rescue & return to pond.)
for a day. When settled you can return the top
clear water, & put ~3 gallons of muck in garden.

* "redneck" a USA term,
often for crude, but often effective enough solutions.
Below is only somewhat correct
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redneck
Go ahead and google, & google images
"you might be a redneck if"


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Old May 31st 12, 04:37 PM posted to rec.ponds
Brian Watson[_2_]
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Default Silted up pond - into redneck


"a425couple" wrote in message
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"Brian Watson" wrote in message...
I have a two-level triangular pond (approx 20' each side overall) which
has
become very silted up with dust and muck blown in through the winter.
I have been quite diligent in removing leaves: it's the fine particle
stuff
that is my problem.
The water is clear (I have a sturdy pump/filter which runs 8 hours a day)
but a lot of the muck that is building up on the bottom is not within the
pump's collection range.
Currently, as well as a good stocking of plants, I have frogs, tadpoles
and
at least two species of newt co-existing quite happily with visiting
dragonflies etc etc.

All very "in balance" but the muck level is rising and I do need to get
quite a bit of it out with minimal impact on my wildlife.


Care to explain, if everything is good, why you feel
you need to get the muck out?


Because in places the pond is becoming very shallow - it's THAT silted up.

A couple years ago, I did a very "redneck" * solution.
I used a 16 gallon "wet/dry" vacume.
Put nozzle on bottom, best to have someone else
turn it on so you can be moving the intake sweep along
bottom (yeah!! things happen fast!), until 'bucket'
is about half full.
Yeah, any fish etc. stupid enough to out of silly
couriosity go swim over to check out this
strange 'sweep/nozzle' will feel they have been
VERY rudely treated. Very rapidly transported
from pond, through 'sweep' & large hose
into a bucket 1/2 full of very mucky water.
But, really nothing seriously injurious.
(since motor & propeller & filter are after
the holding bucket).

Remove lid (with motor & filter) and allow
to 'decant' (and you can sift through for any
good things you wish to rescue & return to pond.)
for a day. When settled you can return the top
clear water, & put ~3 gallons of muck in garden.


Great suggestion. Thank you.
--
Brian
"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."


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Old May 31st 12, 05:24 PM posted to rec.ponds
a425couple
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Default Silted up pond - into English

"Brian Watson" wrote in message...
"a425couple" wrote in message...
"Brian Watson" wrote in message...
I have a two-level triangular pond (approx 20' each side overall) which
has
become very silted up with dust and muck blown in through the winter.
I have been quite diligent in removing leaves: it's the fine particle
stuff
that is my problem.
The water is clear (I have a sturdy pump/filter which runs 8 hours a
day)
but a lot of the muck that is building up on the bottom is not within
the
pump's collection range.
Currently, as well as a good stocking of plants, I have frogs, tadpoles
and
at least two species of newt co-existing quite happily with visiting
dragonflies etc etc.

All very "in balance" but the muck level is rising and I do need to get
quite a bit of it out with minimal impact on my wildlife.


Care to explain, if everything is good, why you feel
you need to get the muck out?


Because in places the pond is becoming very shallow - it's THAT silted up.

A couple years ago, I did a very "redneck" * solution.
I used a 16 gallon "wet/dry" vacume.
Put nozzle on bottom, best to have someone else
turn it on so you can be moving the intake sweep along
bottom (yeah!! things happen fast!), until 'bucket'
is about half full.
Yeah, any fish etc. stupid enough to out of silly
couriosity go swim over to check out this
strange 'sweep/nozzle' will feel they have been
VERY rudely treated. Very rapidly transported
from pond, through 'sweep' & large hose
into a bucket 1/2 full of very mucky water.
But, really nothing seriously injurious.
(since motor & propeller & filter are after
the holding bucket).

Remove lid (with motor & filter) and allow
to 'decant' (and you can sift through for any
good things you wish to rescue & return to pond.)
for a day. When settled you can return the top
clear water, & put ~3 gallons of muck in garden.


Great suggestion. Thank you.


You are welcome.
I hope it turns out OK for you.
Obviously, with your 'quanity', instead of 'decanting'
in the vacume 'bucket' you would want to have
a number of 5 gallon paint buckets around to
dump vacume bucket into to 'decant'.
Then can ASAP do process 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc. time.

This process will really silt up all the water,
but it will settle.
And, I think, it creates less silt, than trying
to use either shovel or buckets to pick
up the muck from the bottom.

The fish might scream at you, but don't take
their obscenities too personally.
I'd be willing to share the audio with you,
but internet censorship would blank it out.
Hmmm, do English Goldfish use typical English
style pronounciation & typical English insults?


 




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