If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
length of lower control arms
Speaking of lower rear control arms for a 92 civic sedan, does anybody
know which of the aftermarket replacements are stock length, and which are shorter for camber improvement with lowered suspension? |
Ads |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
length of lower control arms
z wrote:
> Speaking of lower rear control arms for a 92 civic sedan, does anybody > know which of the aftermarket replacements are stock length, and which > are shorter for camber improvement with lowered suspension? > you use adjustable upper arms, not lower. readily available. if you want the wheel track wider, use spacers on the hubs. |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
length of lower control arms
Tegger wrote:
> jim beam > wrote in news:KI- > : > >> z wrote: >>> Speaking of lower rear control arms for a 92 civic sedan, does anybody >>> know which of the aftermarket replacements are stock length, and which >>> are shorter for camber improvement with lowered suspension? >>> >> you use adjustable upper arms, not lower. readily available. if you >> want the wheel track wider, use spacers on the hubs. >> > > > Which will quickly eat up the wheel bearings. > how is that? |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
length of lower control arms
jim beam wrote:
> Tegger wrote: >> jim beam > wrote in news:KI- >> : >> >>> z wrote: >>>> Speaking of lower rear control arms for a 92 civic sedan, does anybody >>>> know which of the aftermarket replacements are stock length, and which >>>> are shorter for camber improvement with lowered suspension? >>>> >>> you use adjustable upper arms, not lower. readily available. if you >>> want the wheel track wider, use spacers on the hubs. >>> >> >> >> Which will quickly eat up the wheel bearings. >> > how is that? Just a wild guess but I imagine moving the weight to the outside of those bearing is going to play hell with them. The axle/bearing assembly is designed with the weight centered on the bearing surfaces. Move it in or out and you concentrate the weight (not to mention the forces inflicted on the wheel by uneven terrain) on the end of the axle. Bad ju ju! |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
length of lower control arms
Unquestionably Confused wrote:
> jim beam wrote: >> Tegger wrote: >>> jim beam > wrote in news:KI- >>> : >>> >>>> z wrote: >>>>> Speaking of lower rear control arms for a 92 civic sedan, does anybody >>>>> know which of the aftermarket replacements are stock length, and which >>>>> are shorter for camber improvement with lowered suspension? >>>>> >>>> you use adjustable upper arms, not lower. readily available. if >>>> you want the wheel track wider, use spacers on the hubs. >>>> >>> >>> >>> Which will quickly eat up the wheel bearings. >>> >> how is that? > > > Just a wild guess but I imagine moving the weight to the outside of > those bearing is going to play hell with them. The axle/bearing > assembly is designed with the weight centered on the bearing surfaces. > Move it in or out and you concentrate the weight (not to mention the > forces inflicted on the wheel by uneven terrain) on the end of the axle. > Bad ju ju! > ok, but: 1. the wheel is already offset from the center line of the bearing anyway. 2. normal spacers aren't going to make a lot of difference - unusual to go much more than 10mm. 3. it's all relative. the op is lowering and presumably "racing". bearings take a hit in this situation anyway. literally if the car is lowered too much and the car's riding on the bump stops. |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
length of lower control arms
"jim beam" > wrote in message > ok, but: > 1. the wheel is already offset from the center line of the bearing anyway. > 2. normal spacers aren't going to make a lot of difference - unusual to > go much more than 10mm. > 3. it's all relative. the op is lowering and presumably "racing". > bearings take a hit in this situation anyway. literally if the car is > lowered too much and the car's riding on the bump stops. I have heard the explanation, whether myth or fact, that the use of spacers will cause premature failure of bearings. Since the axle flange is always out past the centerplane of the bearing, like you, I dont think it matters too much. I tend to think this may be another garage legend, but wont stick my neck out on it. |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
length of lower control arms
jim beam wrote:
> Unquestionably Confused wrote: > >> jim beam wrote: >> >>> Tegger wrote: >>> >>>> jim beam > wrote in news:KI- >>>> : >>>> >>>>> z wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Speaking of lower rear control arms for a 92 civic sedan, does >>>>>> anybody >>>>>> know which of the aftermarket replacements are stock length, and >>>>>> which >>>>>> are shorter for camber improvement with lowered suspension? >>>>>> >>>>> you use adjustable upper arms, not lower. readily available. if >>>>> you want the wheel track wider, use spacers on the hubs. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Which will quickly eat up the wheel bearings. >>>> >>> how is that? >> >> >> >> Just a wild guess but I imagine moving the weight to the outside of >> those bearing is going to play hell with them. The axle/bearing >> assembly is designed with the weight centered on the bearing surfaces. >> Move it in or out and you concentrate the weight (not to mention the >> forces inflicted on the wheel by uneven terrain) on the end of the >> axle. Bad ju ju! >> > ok, but: > 1. the wheel is already offset from the center line of the bearing anyway. A load that the bearing is designed to handle. > 2. normal spacers aren't going to make a lot of difference - unusual to > go much more than 10mm. 10mm that is going to move the load out, changing the designed fulcrum of the original geometry, increasing the load on the bearing. > 3. it's all relative. the op is lowering and presumably "racing". > bearings take a hit in this situation anyway. literally if the car is > lowered too much and the car's riding on the bump stops. The point of a well designed aftermarket control arms is to keep the suspension geometry correct in the areas that matter. Bearing load and various wheel alignment tracking angles would be very close to the original design. |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
length of lower control arms
|
#10
|
|||
|
|||
length of lower control arms
anumber1 wrote: > > 10mm that is going to move the load out, changing the designed fulcrum > of the original geometry, increasing the load on the bearing. > Well so is having fat aunt Martha sitting in the passenger seat, but it is not likely to affect the life of the bearing in any measurable way. -jim > > 3. it's all relative. the op is lowering and presumably "racing". > > bearings take a hit in this situation anyway. literally if the car is > > lowered too much and the car's riding on the bump stops. > > The point of a well designed aftermarket control arms is to keep the > suspension geometry correct in the areas that matter. > > Bearing load and various wheel alignment tracking angles would be very > close to the original design. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
FS E34 control arms with BMW OE M5 bushing installed | bfd[_1_] | BMW | 0 | September 23rd 06 01:01 AM |
Why Would ABS Problem Require Replacing Control Arms? | Steven L. | Honda | 8 | July 15th 06 10:02 PM |
91 Civic Lower at Dr. Side Front... | Elle | Honda | 15 | May 28th 06 06:11 AM |
installing control arms | Nathan Otis | Jeep | 17 | February 27th 05 01:46 AM |
Torn CV boot and loose control arms | Curt Cleaveland | Audi | 0 | August 6th 04 10:56 PM |