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Replacing front tires
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I have an '89 Olds car with 4 Goodyear Aquatred tires on it. I need to replace the front pair of tires as the car will not pass state inspection because of tread depth. I want to just replace the front tires as the rear tires are still in good shape, tread-wise. Question I have is that the tread toward the inside of the tire on both the front tires is worn down more than the outside part of the tread. What does this signify and what do I need to have adjusted when I bring the car in to replace the tires? Also, I do not want to spend the extra $ on new Aquatreds so what is a decent tire/brand that I can put on the front axle given the rear axle still has Aquatreds? Thanks. Walter |
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In article .com>, Wally wrote:
> Hi. > I have an '89 Olds car with 4 Goodyear Aquatred tires on it. > I need to replace the front pair of tires as the car will not pass > state inspection because of tread depth. I want to just replace the > front tires as the rear tires are still in good shape, tread-wise. > Question I have is that the tread toward the inside of the tire on both > the front tires is worn down more than the outside part of the tread. > What does this signify and what do I need to have adjusted when I bring > the car in to replace the tires? It depends on how much it's uneven. If the whole tire is worn out and the inside is just a little further along, then it's probably normal. If the inside is worn down and the rest of the tire is like new, big problem. |
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Wally wrote: <brevity snip>
> Question I have is that the tread toward the inside of the tire on both > the front tires is worn down more than the outside part of the tread. > What does this signify and what do I need to have adjusted when I bring > the car in to replace the tires? This is a FWD vehicle, I assume... It probably signifies you need an alignment, at least, and new steering and/or suspension parts, at worst. Check out this page on alignment http://www.ozebiz.com.au/racetech/theory/align.html If you don't know what all that means, or what needs adjusting, you're best off having a reputable facility tell you. > Also, I do not want to spend the extra $ on new Aquatreds so what is a > decent tire/brand that I can put on the front axle given the rear axle > still has Aquatreds? Probably any same size/compound (mileage rated) tire will work fine. Go to the local GY dealer and ask them, is what I would do. ----- - gpsman |
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Just rotate the tires to the rear, and take it back for reinspection. They can only inspect the tire condition in the wheel positions that failed...i.e. LF, RF...can't fail it if the bad ones are now on the rear...that's a different rejection... I used to do vehicle inspections. That's a technicality that few are aware of. Used to **** me off when someone figured that out. I asked the State Patrol trooper who oversaw the inspections in our area...he said there's nothing you can do, you gotta pass it.... Even though the above is true, I don't reccommend you do that...and you can run any comparable radials with the Aquatreds, even on the same axle...there's nothing special about them, especially once worn... -- jeffcoslacker ------------------------------------------------------------------------ jeffcoslacker's Profile: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...?userid=219638 View this thread: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...d.php?t=614066 http://www.automotiveforums.com |
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Wally wrote:
> Hi. > I have an '89 Olds car with 4 Goodyear Aquatred tires on it. > I need to replace the front pair of tires as the car will not pass > state inspection because of tread depth. I want to just replace the > front tires as the rear tires are still in good shape, tread-wise. > Question I have is that the tread toward the inside of the tire on both > the front tires is worn down more than the outside part of the tread. > What does this signify and what do I need to have adjusted when I bring > the car in to replace the tires? > Also, I do not want to spend the extra $ on new Aquatreds so what is a > decent tire/brand that I can put on the front axle given the rear axle > still has Aquatreds? > > Thanks. > Walter > First of all, you need an alignment at a minimum, and the alignment tech may very well find some other issues with the front end that need to be rectified (tie rods, strut bearings, ball joints, etc.) to make the car safe. But if they didn't appear on your inspection report, make sure you really need them. Secondly, if you get new tires, you should rotate the tires so that the newest ones are on the rear of the car, to keep the vehicle stable in bad weather conditions. good luck, nate -- replace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel |
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Most likely you need to have an alignment done.
It is probably the toe that needs to be adjusted. It's possible your tie rod ends are worn out and need to be replaced (extra $$). It is also possible that the camber isn't set right. These things can be off just a little bit and cause quite a lot of tire wear over many thousands of miles. You don't say what kind of Oldsmobile it is, but I have a 90 Ciera and I got new tires at Sears for about $45 a tire last fall. They were on sale. You might check there for what they have on sale. I didn't need an alignment done (which usually costs about $65 more) and I didn't get the road hazard warranty and all that. But of course by the time you add in new valve stems, wheel balancing, tire disposal, and tax, you're still looking at about $170 for 2 new tires. That's pretty good though- and it's worth the money when you consider it's for your safety on wet or icy pavement. The name of the tire was Goodyear Weatherhandler. This model of tire you can only get at Sears- Goodyear makes it for Sears and does not sell them through their own tire stores. I think treadwear was about 60,000 miles. One good thing about getting tires for American cars is that they seem to be a lot less expensive than getting tires for foreign cars. Why this is I'm not sure. Anyway, hope this helps you. Nate Nagel wrote: > Wally wrote: > > Hi. > > I have an '89 Olds car with 4 Goodyear Aquatred tires on it. > > I need to replace the front pair of tires as the car will not pass > > state inspection because of tread depth. I want to just replace the > > front tires as the rear tires are still in good shape, tread-wise. > > Question I have is that the tread toward the inside of the tire on both > > the front tires is worn down more than the outside part of the tread. > > What does this signify and what do I need to have adjusted when I bring > > the car in to replace the tires? > > Also, I do not want to spend the extra $ on new Aquatreds so what is a > > decent tire/brand that I can put on the front axle given the rear axle > > still has Aquatreds? > > > > Thanks. > > Walter > > > > First of all, you need an alignment at a minimum, and the alignment tech > may very well find some other issues with the front end that need to be > rectified (tie rods, strut bearings, ball joints, etc.) to make the car > safe. But if they didn't appear on your inspection report, make sure > you really need them. > > Secondly, if you get new tires, you should rotate the tires so that the > newest ones are on the rear of the car, to keep the vehicle stable in > bad weather conditions. > > good luck, > > nate > > -- > replace "fly" with "com" to reply. > http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel |
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Wally wrote: > Hi. > I have an '89 Olds car with 4 Goodyear Aquatred tires on it. > I need to replace the front pair of tires as the car will not pass > state inspection because of tread depth. I want to just replace the > front tires as the rear tires are still in good shape, tread-wise. It is dangerous and foolish to replace only two tires on any front wheel drive car. Spend the money and buy four good standard tires. |
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Nate Nagel Wrote: > > Secondly, if you get new tires, you should rotate the tires so that the > newest ones are on the rear of the car, to keep the vehicle stable in > bad weather conditions. > Could you please elaborate on this? Till now I was sure in the opposite. Thanks, Misha -- MishaA ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MishaA's Profile: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...?userid=469060 View this thread: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...d.php?t=614066 http://www.automotiveforums.com |
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MishaA wrote:
> Nate Nagel Wrote: > >>Secondly, if you get new tires, you should rotate the tires so that the >>newest ones are on the rear of the car, to keep the vehicle stable in >>bad weather conditions. >> > > > Could you please elaborate on this? Till now I was sure in the > opposite. > Thanks, Misha > > Most people think that the reason that you always used to put the good tires on the back of a car was because they were the drive wheels. They were traditionally the drive wheels, yes, but the *real* good reason to do that has to do with keeping the back end from coming around on you, especially on hard braking, or to a lesser extent, cornering. The whole deal is that a rubber-pavement interface (like the contact patches of your tires) has a significantly higher coefficient of static friction than sliding friction, therefore if a wheel loses traction and locks under braking, you want it to be the front, so that the vehicle stays straight (the greater force from the still-rolling rear tires will keep the vehicle stable. In the opposite situation, the car is essentially trying to balance itself on its front tires, and any perturbation will make the rear end try to come around to one side or the other.) Also, if either end loses traction while cornering, for any but the most skilled drivers, it's safer for it to be the front (understeer) rather than the rear (oversteer.) The correct procedure for recovering from understeer would be to quickly but smoothly lift off the gas, or even brake slightly, to allow weight to transfer back to the front to give the front tires more bite, which is the instinctive reaction of most people. To recover from *oversteer,* the correct procedure would be to actually accelerate gently to transfer more weight to the back, while countersteering. Most people can handle the countersteering part, but the accelerating thing is counterintuitive. So there's two situations where for most drivers keeping the good tires on the back is of definite benefit. That said, on a FWD car you still want to have *good* tires on the front, or you won't be going much of anywhere in the snow. Also, obviously, for maximum safety you'd really want to have decent tires all around (I don't know what your current "good" pair is like, so I can't actually offer real advice specific to you) but in the case where a driver is forced by circumstances to replace only two tires, generally the new tires should *always* go on the back. good luck, nate -- replace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel |
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