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Old May 7th 05, 12:58 AM
L.A. Jeepster
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Default any opinions on the Rubicon "Unlimited"

Hi folks,

Commentary in this room helped me a lot last year when I was choosing a
barbeque grill (coal truly is the way to go), so I'm hoping to get a little
input on the purchase of a Rubicon Unlimited.

My Jeep experience thus far has been a '90 YJ 4.0L, a '95 YJ 2.5L, and a '96
XJ 4.0L (my personal favorite, just before they started making XJs for
girls, though I'd still take a redesigned XJ over the KJ any day). Now that
gas prices are skyrocketing and hybrids are all the rage, I have the
untimely opportunity to get a pretty good deal on a Rubicon Unlimited (is
that a VJ?).

I like the Rubicon options, like the tried-and-true 4.0L, the Dana 44; and I
think the "Unlimited" extension is pretty cool. I want something I can take
off road, but I'm basically a child of the Chrysler era when it comes to
Jeep, so I like things like power-steering and CD players, and I'm not
obsessed with "the good ol' days" when AMC made Jeeps... so aside from all
the epithets against DC (which are probably true), what do you all think
about this latest model?


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Old May 7th 05, 01:09 AM
Jerry Bransford
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The Unlimited is really a great addition to the Wrangler line. My only
complaint with my shorter wheelbase standard Wrangler has been the lack
of space for camping gear and spare Jeep parts when I take my son on
multi-day camping/offroading trips and the little bit of extra room of
the Unlimited would be VERY welcome. That it rides better and has a
heavier tow limit are nice benefits too. Some trails I do would be a
little tougher with its longer wheelbase but it wouldn't mean I couldn't
do them. If I were buying a new Wrangler, I'd go for the Unlimited.
I'm not so sure I'd go for the Rubicon version because I'd rather build
the axles and install lockers myself but for most offroaders, they're great.

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Old May 7th 05, 01:40 AM
L.W.(ßill) Hughes III
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http://www-5.jeep.com/vehsuite/dispa...ries=Unlimited
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

"L.A. Jeepster" wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Commentary in this room helped me a lot last year when I was choosing a
> barbeque grill (coal truly is the way to go), so I'm hoping to get a little
> input on the purchase of a Rubicon Unlimited.
>
> My Jeep experience thus far has been a '90 YJ 4.0L, a '95 YJ 2.5L, and a '96
> XJ 4.0L (my personal favorite, just before they started making XJs for
> girls, though I'd still take a redesigned XJ over the KJ any day). Now that
> gas prices are skyrocketing and hybrids are all the rage, I have the
> untimely opportunity to get a pretty good deal on a Rubicon Unlimited (is
> that a VJ?).
>
> I like the Rubicon options, like the tried-and-true 4.0L, the Dana 44; and I
> think the "Unlimited" extension is pretty cool. I want something I can take
> off road, but I'm basically a child of the Chrysler era when it comes to
> Jeep, so I like things like power-steering and CD players, and I'm not
> obsessed with "the good ol' days" when AMC made Jeeps... so aside from all
> the epithets against DC (which are probably true), what do you all think
> about this latest model?

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Old May 7th 05, 04:16 AM
twaldron
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As an owner of a SWB Rubicon and a "girly" 01 XJ, I'd say the LWB
Rubicon would be a beautiful choice. A blend of the two, if you will. It
would have been a tough choice if they had both in Aug/Sept of '02 when
I ordered mine. I'd love to have a touch more room.

I find it interesting that you degrade the 97+ XJ (my Sport is no more
plush than a Sport TJ) yet you want the creature comforts on the Unltd.
where they must seem more masculine to you somehow.

BTW, a CD player that will handle mp3 files would be preferred. Has DC
caught on to this yet?

L.A. Jeepster wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Commentary in this room helped me a lot last year when I was choosing a
> barbeque grill (coal truly is the way to go), so I'm hoping to get a little
> input on the purchase of a Rubicon Unlimited.
>
> My Jeep experience thus far has been a '90 YJ 4.0L, a '95 YJ 2.5L, and a '96
> XJ 4.0L (my personal favorite, just before they started making XJs for
> girls, though I'd still take a redesigned XJ over the KJ any day). Now that
> gas prices are skyrocketing and hybrids are all the rage, I have the
> untimely opportunity to get a pretty good deal on a Rubicon Unlimited (is
> that a VJ?).
>
> I like the Rubicon options, like the tried-and-true 4.0L, the Dana 44; and I
> think the "Unlimited" extension is pretty cool. I want something I can take
> off road, but I'm basically a child of the Chrysler era when it comes to
> Jeep, so I like things like power-steering and CD players, and I'm not
> obsessed with "the good ol' days" when AMC made Jeeps... so aside from all
> the epithets against DC (which are probably true), what do you all think
> about this latest model?
>
>


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__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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Old May 7th 05, 03:57 PM
L.A. Jeepster
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"twaldron" > wrote in message
m...
>
> I find it interesting that you degrade the 97+ XJ (my Sport is no more
> plush than a Sport TJ) yet you want the creature comforts on the Unltd.
> where they must seem more masculine to you somehow.


I recall that being the year when weird things started happening with
Jeep... the TJ replaced the YJ, leaf springs were abandoned for coils, and
colors like "baby blue" became an option. (People stopped waving at each
other that year, too.) Basically, Jeep was trying to appeal to the Honda
CRV -driving crowd (i.e., girls) and forgetting about its rock crawling fan
base. At least the Rubicon sales pitch attempts to reconnect with the old
guard.

Of course, I'm sure people felt the same way when the YJ replaced the CJ.
One day we'll all be 4-wheeling in battery-powered trucks anyway.


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Old May 7th 05, 05:49 PM
twaldron
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L.A. Jeepster wrote:
> "twaldron" > wrote in message
> m...
>
>>I find it interesting that you degrade the 97+ XJ (my Sport is no more
>>plush than a Sport TJ) yet you want the creature comforts on the Unltd.
>>where they must seem more masculine to you somehow.

>
>
> I recall that being the year when weird things started happening with
> Jeep... the TJ replaced the YJ, leaf springs were abandoned for coils, and
> colors like "baby blue" became an option. (People stopped waving at each
> other that year, too.) Basically, Jeep was trying to appeal to the Honda
> CRV -driving crowd (i.e., girls) and forgetting about its rock crawling fan
> base. At least the Rubicon sales pitch attempts to reconnect with the old
> guard.
>
> Of course, I'm sure people felt the same way when the YJ replaced the CJ.
> One day we'll all be 4-wheeling in battery-powered trucks anyway.


I remember actively searching for a Jeep in late 80s...I guess it was
1987. The dealerships still had a scant few new CJ7s on the lots with
the new YJs all lined up. I remember looking at how low the YJ was in
comparison, and also the axles were wider. I did not like the
differences, so I understand your point.

I hesitated too long and the CJs disappeared. The last one was a plain
jane tan colored with a brown soft top CJ on the lot, but I passed
because I liked the Laredos. Ugh! It was a year or so later before I
found a beautiful bright red 1985 soft top CJ7 with 900 miles on it
(non-Laredo). Later, I eventually had a 90 YJ.

When the new TJ came out, it had the opposite affect on me. I saw a
vastly improved soft top, cool round CJ-like headlights and could not
get over how well the thing rode with the new coil suspension. I
consider the TJ an improvement over the YJ. I think the Rubicon is the
creme de la creme of the TJ line, and best out-of-the-box offroader Jeep
has ever made. Everyone has their own perspective. But what do I know? I
think the XJ Sport is about as spartan and non-girly as you can get in
an "SUV".....but it ain't a '71 Bronco!
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71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
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Old May 9th 05, 06:35 AM
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L=2EW. Hughes III (=DFill) wrote:
>

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> God Bless America, =DFill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> "L.A. Jeepster" wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Commentary in this room helped me a lot last year when I was

choosing a
> > barbeque grill (coal truly is the way to go), so I'm hoping to get

a little
> > input on the purchase of a Rubicon Unlimited.
> >
> > My Jeep experience thus far has been a '90 YJ 4.0L, a '95 YJ 2.5L,

and a '96
> > XJ 4.0L (my personal favorite, just before they started making XJs

for
> > girls, though I'd still take a redesigned XJ over the KJ any day).

Now that
> > gas prices are skyrocketing and hybrids are all the rage, I have

the
> > untimely opportunity to get a pretty good deal on a Rubicon

Unlimited (is
> > that a VJ?).
> >
> > I like the Rubicon options, like the tried-and-true 4.0L, the Dana

44; and I
> > think the "Unlimited" extension is pretty cool. I want something I

can take
> > off road, but I'm basically a child of the Chrysler era when it

comes to
> > Jeep, so I like things like power-steering and CD players, and I'm

not
> > obsessed with "the good ol' days" when AMC made Jeeps... so aside

from all
> > the epithets against DC (which are probably true), what do you all

think
> > about this latest model?


So what does this post tell us Bill? is there a specific commentary
here?
Your posting a link to Jeeps website that compares the Unlimited
Rubicon to the Unlimited with a lesser trim package on it. Does this
answer the OP's question in any way?
A) Your saying the Rubicon version is over priced?
B) Your saying the Rubicon version is a better value given the axles,
increased ground clearance, etc.?
C) Your saying neither are real Jeeps?

Pick one...

Matthewf_boi @ Yahoo dot com
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(Posting with my real email address that I check every day - feel free
to flame away)

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Old May 10th 05, 03:44 AM
Chad Fraker
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I replaced my 02 TJ Sport with an Unlimited. Given the choice, I would have
went for the Unlimited Rubi. Sure I'd miss out on adding all the lockers
and axles nad 4:1, but then again, with a 6 mo old baby girl, do i really
have time for that?

Although you miss out on the fun of modifying your Jeep, it's probably
cheaper to finance it with the price of the vehicle then to add it later.
Air lockers, 4:1, 4.11, and the 44 up front aren't cheap upgrades, even if
you can do all the work yourself.

Just my $0.02
Chad




"L.A. Jeepster" > wrote in message
news:vwTee.2514$sy6.174@lakeread04...
> Hi folks,
>
> Commentary in this room helped me a lot last year when I was choosing a
> barbeque grill (coal truly is the way to go), so I'm hoping to get a
> little input on the purchase of a Rubicon Unlimited.
>
> My Jeep experience thus far has been a '90 YJ 4.0L, a '95 YJ 2.5L, and a
> '96 XJ 4.0L (my personal favorite, just before they started making XJs for
> girls, though I'd still take a redesigned XJ over the KJ any day). Now
> that gas prices are skyrocketing and hybrids are all the rage, I have the
> untimely opportunity to get a pretty good deal on a Rubicon Unlimited (is
> that a VJ?).
>
> I like the Rubicon options, like the tried-and-true 4.0L, the Dana 44; and
> I think the "Unlimited" extension is pretty cool. I want something I can
> take off road, but I'm basically a child of the Chrysler era when it comes
> to Jeep, so I like things like power-steering and CD players, and I'm not
> obsessed with "the good ol' days" when AMC made Jeeps... so aside from all
> the epithets against DC (which are probably true), what do you all think
> about this latest model?
>



  #10  
Old June 10th 05, 03:47 AM
Dustin Macdonald
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>
> I remember actively searching for a Jeep in late 80s...I guess it was
> 1987. The dealerships still had a scant few new CJ7s on the lots with
> the new YJs all lined up. I remember looking at how low the YJ was in
> comparison, and also the axles were wider. I did not like the
> differences, so I understand your point.
>
> I hesitated too long and the CJs disappeared. The last one was a plain
> jane tan colored with a brown soft top CJ on the lot, but I passed
> because I liked the Laredos. Ugh! It was a year or so later before I
> found a beautiful bright red 1985 soft top CJ7 with 900 miles on it
> (non-Laredo). Later, I eventually had a 90 YJ.


I had an 83/84 CJ7 Laredo. Fun as you can get, but an absolute
mechanical nightmare. That was the SMOG/emissions blunder year in
Calif. random cutting out. Solenoid actuated carb surging. Spun a
tapered axel.

But it could go anywhe Sierras, Mex, Snow, Beach, crawlin', ....
Love that about jeeps.

I had so many carb and computer problems that I finally sold it and
bought a '71 Scout II. all it had was a carb with points! No smog
crap. Headers and glass packs only (my neighbors loved me for that...
uh, no). I could put my dog behind that back seat! No more slobber in
the ear as he hung his head out the window. Lots of room for stuff. A
massive 392 V8. Yes, I was in heaven for a long time. Only problem
was the mileage. 8-10 mpg city, 14mpg HWY. Ouch.

The sea air in Santa Cruz, Calif. finally did in my beloved Scout with
terminal Scout rot.

i always loved the scrambler. So, I bought an '04 Unlimited/Hard Top
(non rubi) last October.

I absolutely love it.

There's enough room for my 100# Bernese Mountain Dog behind the back
seat. Creature comforts galore but still with that jeep ability.
Lot's 'o room for Stuff. Really quiet. You can actually hold a
conversation on the FWY. Auto Locking hubs (well it's new to me!).
Wow, really stable on the FWY.

I would not hesitate to recommend it to anyone. and I bet the rubi is
even better.

- Dustin

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