I am Confused ! ATF+3 or ATF+4 in 99 Dodge Caravan 3.3L

After reading all the posts about which fluid to use in my 99 Caravan
transmission, i am still confused. Is it OK to use ATF+4 or should i stay with
ATF+3.Thanks Rick

"Rick Yerke" > wrote in message
...
> After reading all the posts about which fluid to use in my 99 Caravan
> transmission, i am still confused. Is it OK to use ATF+4 or should i stay
with
> ATF+3.Thanks Rick

TSB 21-006-01 googled for you.
http://dodgeram.info//tsb/2004/21-004-04.htm

Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech

maxpower wrote:
> "Rick Yerke" > wrote in message
> ...
> > After reading all the posts about which fluid to use in my 99 Caravan
> > transmission, i am still confused. Is it OK to use ATF+4 or should i stay
> with
> > ATF+3.Thanks Rick
>
> TSB 21-006-01 googled for you.
> http://dodgeram.info//tsb/2004/21-004-04.htm
>
> Glenn Beasley
> Chrysler Tech

The part that always confuses me is the following:

*NOTE: This bulletin applies to all transmissions manufactured by
Chrysler except for 1999 and earlier minivans with the 41TE/AE
transmission.*

I understand this to mean that 1999 and earlier minivans should not use
ATF+4, if they have the 41TE/AE transmission.

Am I correct?

-Kirk Matheson

On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Rick Yerke wrote:

> After reading all the posts about which fluid to use in my 99 Caravan
> transmission, i am still confused. Is it OK to use ATF+4 or should i
> stay with ATF+3.Thanks Rick

Your confusion is quite understandable, given the contradictory statements
DC has issued on the matter. People will argue until the cows come home
about your question. They will brandish and declare as authoritative
various versions of the Chrysler transmission fluid TSB. The +4 is
significantly improved in just about every way compared to +3, and
Chrysler has issued statements that +4 is acceptable in all applications
originally specced for +3, including pre-2000 minivans. However, +3 is
less expensive than +4, and Chrysler has issued statements that +4 might
cause the torque converter lockup clutch to chatter in pre-2000 minivans.

In your position, I would use +4.

DS

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> maxpower wrote:
> > "Rick Yerke" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > After reading all the posts about which fluid to use in my 99 Caravan
> > > transmission, i am still confused. Is it OK to use ATF+4 or should i
stay
> > with
> > > ATF+3.Thanks Rick
> >
> > TSB 21-006-01 googled for you.
> > http://dodgeram.info//tsb/2004/21-004-04.htm
> >
> > Glenn Beasley
> > Chrysler Tech
>
> The part that always confuses me is the following:
>
> *NOTE: This bulletin applies to all transmissions manufactured by
> Chrysler except for 1999 and earlier minivans with the 41TE/AE
> transmission.*
>
> I understand this to mean that 1999 and earlier minivans should not use
> ATF+4, if they have the 41TE/AE transmission.
>
> Am I correct?
>
> -Kirk Matheson
>
ATF+4 is compatiable with ATF+3 and ATF+2. ATF+4 can be used to top off
vehicles that already have ATF+2 or ATF+3.(TOP OFF ONLY)
They say not to use ATF+2 or ATF+3 to top off vehicles that have ATF+4
fluid.
Whenever the factory fill is changed, use ATF plus 3 type 7176

Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech

"maxpower" > wrote in message
news
>
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > maxpower wrote:
> > > "Rick Yerke" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > After reading all the posts about which fluid to use in my 99
Caravan
> > > > transmission, i am still confused. Is it OK to use ATF+4 or should i
> stay
> > > with
> > > > ATF+3.Thanks Rick
> > >
> > > TSB 21-006-01 googled for you.
> > > http://dodgeram.info//tsb/2004/21-004-04.htm
> > >
> > > Glenn Beasley
> > > Chrysler Tech
> >
> > The part that always confuses me is the following:
> >
> > *NOTE: This bulletin applies to all transmissions manufactured by
> > Chrysler except for 1999 and earlier minivans with the 41TE/AE
> > transmission.*
> >
> > I understand this to mean that 1999 and earlier minivans should not use
> > ATF+4, if they have the 41TE/AE transmission.
> >
> > Am I correct?
> >
> > -Kirk Matheson
> >
> ATF+4 is compatiable with ATF+3 and ATF+2. ATF+4 can be used to top off
> vehicles that already have ATF+2 or ATF+3.(TOP OFF ONLY)
> They say not to use ATF+2 or ATF+3 to top off vehicles that have ATF+4
> fluid.
> Whenever the factory fill is changed, use ATF plus 3 type 7176
>

Unless your putting in a new, rebuilt transmission, since the rebuilt
transmission
in a minivan will have the same parts as a rebuilt transmission in any
other vehicle, including a post-1999 minivan. (actually it might have a
heavy duty
10' torque converter, but this is of no importance to the fluid) In that
case use
ATF +4. Trans programming might be different
but I have never read or heard anyone say that they thought trans
computer reprogramming would make the vehicle 'more compatible' with ATF +4
or ATF +3.

Ted

go with teh atf4

Rick Yerke wrote:

> After reading all the posts about which fluid to use in my 99 Caravan
> transmission, i am still confused. Is it OK to use ATF+4 or should i stay with
> ATF+3.Thanks Rick