U-Haul's practices raise the risk of accidents on the road

On Jun 25, 10:31 am, Scott en Aztlán > wrote:
> "gordo" > said in rec.autos.driving:
>
> >Does this mean that U-Haul will now refuse to rent any trailers to Toyota
> >Land Cruiser owners?
> >....same way they continue to discriminate against Explorer owners?
>
> For those of us who do not own Exploders, can you give any examples of
> the ways that Screw-Haul disciminates against those who do?

The example where U-Haul themselves has banned towing with Ford
Explorers since late 2003, it's in the article you didn't read.

Brent P:

<< reply limited to r.a.d >>

> Wether I can 'handle it' or not is not relevant. The fact of the matter
> is that the situation does occur. BTW, the way to handle it, the only way
> to get the semi off one's ass and not be replaced by another or a more
> dangerous situation.... (ie doing 45mph in the left or middle lanes) is
> to well, go faster. Slowing to 35 doesn't give a trucker a hint... too
> dumb I guess.

Isn't he the guy who said something to the effect that anything that is
behind his B-pillar is history and doesn't matter?

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In article et>, necromancer wrote:

> Isn't he the guy who said something to the effect that anything that is
> behind his B-pillar is history and doesn't matter?

I do not recall. But these people who say to drive 20+mph under the flow
speed on a limited access highway must not watch their mirrors. When
I've driven that slowly my eyes are on the mirrors more than not, and
what I see isn't comforting in the least. Hell, even on a typical
surface street going the posted speed limit in light traffic the idiots
swerve into the other lane at the last possible moment.

On Jun 25, 1:03 pm, (Brent P)
wrote:
> In article >, John A. Weeks III wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > (Brent P) wrote:
>
> >> In article . com>, gpsman
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > What very few have seen is a slower vehicle "run over" by faster
> >> > traffic, trailer or no.
>
> >> If someone driving 45mph would need to so much as tap the brakes, he
> >> would get run over the by the semi drafting him 3 feet off his rear
> >> bumper.
>
> > That is BS.
>
> I'll take you for a ride through I-294's work zone.

No need, just post a news report of a semi rear-ending any -moving-
vehicle, on any freeway, anywhere, anytime. Of course it occurs, but
it is exceedingly rare.

> > You need to be in control of your own vehicle,
> > and let the other people drive their own vehicles.
>
> Doesn't change the fact there's a semi riding one's rear bumper.

Which is irrelevant to operating one's own vehicle and letting other
drivers operate theirs. As they say in trucking; you drive your rig,
and I'll drive mine.

> > Speeding
> > up out of your fear of your lack of ability to handle a traffic
> > situation is about the worst possible thing you can do at that
> > time. If you cannot handle a vehicle the way it is supposed
> > to be driven, then get off of the road.
>
> Wether I can 'handle it' or not is not relevant. The fact of the matter
> is that the situation does occur. BTW, the way to handle it, the only way
> to get the semi off one's ass and not be replaced by another or a more
> dangerous situation.... (ie doing 45mph in the left or middle lanes) is
> to well, go faster. Slowing to 35 doesn't give a trucker a hint... too
> dumb I guess.

<spit take> Why not move right, you ****ing moron?

Almost every post you make reveals you shouldn't be allowed to drive a
golf cart, a golf ball, a bicycle, or a nail, much less a motorized
vehicle.
-----

- gpsman

In article .com>, gpsman wrote:
> On Jun 25, 1:03 pm, (Brent P)
> wrote:
>> In article >, John A. Weeks III wrote:
>>
>> > In article >,
>> > (Brent P) wrote:
>>
>> >> In article . com>, gpsman
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> > What very few have seen is a slower vehicle "run over" by faster
>> >> > traffic, trailer or no.
>>
>> >> If someone driving 45mph would need to so much as tap the brakes, he
>> >> would get run over the by the semi drafting him 3 feet off his rear
>> >> bumper.
>>
>> > That is BS.
>>
>> I'll take you for a ride through I-294's work zone.

> No need, just post a news report of a semi rear-ending any -moving-
> vehicle, on any freeway, anywhere, anytime. Of course it occurs, but
> it is exceedingly rare.

Because the second part doesn't happen often. But truckers tailgating
passenger cars is common around here.

>> > You need to be in control of your own vehicle,
>> > and let the other people drive their own vehicles.

>> Doesn't change the fact there's a semi riding one's rear bumper.

> Which is irrelevant to operating one's own vehicle and letting other
> drivers operate theirs. As they say in trucking; you drive your rig,
> and I'll drive mine.

Yeah... what if someone cuts off the passenger car the trucker is
tailgating? What then?

>> > Speeding
>> > up out of your fear of your lack of ability to handle a traffic
>> > situation is about the worst possible thing you can do at that
>> > time. If you cannot handle a vehicle the way it is supposed
>> > to be driven, then get off of the road.

>> Wether I can 'handle it' or not is not relevant. The fact of the matter
>> is that the situation does occur. BTW, the way to handle it, the only way
>> to get the semi off one's ass and not be replaced by another or a more
>> dangerous situation.... (ie doing 45mph in the left or middle lanes) is
>> to well, go faster. Slowing to 35 doesn't give a trucker a hint... too
>> dumb I guess.

><spit take> Why not move right, you ****ing moron?

It's not legal to drive on the ****ing shoulder, the grass, or in
the closed and coned off lane of the work zone, you dumb ****ing asshole!

> Almost every post you make reveals you shouldn't be allowed to drive a
> golf cart, a golf ball, a bicycle, or a nail, much less a motorized
> vehicle.

One of the best things I've ever seen in a work zone is when a state
trooper had stopped three assholes who were passing using the coned off
lane. I also enjoy when the cops are there to nail shoulder passers. Maybe
they'll get you for doing that some day since you've clearly
recommended driving over there, you must do it.

Maybe it was you, that one night on the dan-ryan some asshole trucker in
the right lane moved right into a ramp's acceleration area and then
passed a bunch of people by using the shoulder and then forced his way
back into the right lane when an overpass prevented him from going
further on the shoulder.

I'll bet you got your CDL by bribing someone in the IL SOS office.

On Jun 25, 11:05 pm, (Brent P)
wrote:
> In article .com>, gpsman wrote:
> > On Jun 25, 1:03 pm, (Brent P)
> > wrote:

> >> I'll take you for a ride through I-294's work zone.
> > No need, just post a news report of a semi rear-ending any -moving-
> > vehicle, on any freeway, anywhere, anytime. Of course it occurs, but
> > it is exceedingly rare.
>
> Because the second part doesn't happen often. But truckers tailgating
> passenger cars is common around here.

It's common everywhere. Truck drivers tend to come from the ranks of
the most moronic 4-wheeler drivers.

> Yeah... what if someone cuts off the passenger car the trucker is
> tailgating? What then?

What has been your experience...? Usually, 999 times of 1000, nothing
of consequence.

> >> BTW, the way to handle it, the only way
> >> to get the semi off one's ass and not be replaced by another or a more
> >> dangerous situation.... (ie doing 45mph in the left or middle lanes) is
> >> to well, go faster. Slowing to 35 doesn't give a trucker a hint... too
> >> dumb I guess.

> ><spit take> Why not move right, you ****ing moron?
>
> It's not legal to drive on the ****ing shoulder, the grass, or in
> the closed and coned off lane of the work zone, you dumb ****ing asshole!

If you have choices of a left and middle lane... there's a choice of
the right lane, no need to use the ****ing shoulder, the grass, etc.
If the R lane is coned off it ceases to exist as an option.
>
> > Almost every post you make reveals you shouldn't be allowed to drive a
> > golf cart, a golf ball, a bicycle, or a nail, much less a motorized
> > vehicle.

> I'll bet you got your CDL by bribing someone in the IL SOS office.

Ouch, that really hurts coming from a guy who, by his own reports, so
obviously has inordinate amounts of difficulty negotiating ordinary
traffic situations.
-----

- gpsman

In article . com>, gpsman wrote:
> On Jun 25, 11:05 pm, (Brent P)
> wrote:
>> In article .com>, gpsman wrote:
>> > On Jun 25, 1:03 pm, (Brent P)
>> > wrote:
>
>> >> I'll take you for a ride through I-294's work zone.
>> > No need, just post a news report of a semi rear-ending any -moving-
>> > vehicle, on any freeway, anywhere, anytime. Of course it occurs, but
>> > it is exceedingly rare.
>>
>> Because the second part doesn't happen often. But truckers tailgating
>> passenger cars is common around here.
>
> It's common everywhere. Truck drivers tend to come from the ranks of
> the most moronic 4-wheeler drivers.

Well at least you finally admit truckers are rude assholes.

>> Yeah... what if someone cuts off the passenger car the trucker is
>> tailgating? What then?

> What has been your experience...? Usually, 999 times of 1000, nothing
> of consequence.

Figured you'd be stupid enough to ignore the looming truck that can't
stop as car that is practically kissing your rear bumper. Just don't
expect the rest of us to ignore it.

>> >> BTW, the way to handle it, the only way
>> >> to get the semi off one's ass and not be replaced by another or a more
>> >> dangerous situation.... (ie doing 45mph in the left or middle lanes) is
>> >> to well, go faster. Slowing to 35 doesn't give a trucker a hint... too
>> >> dumb I guess.

>> ><spit take> Why not move right, you ****ing moron?

>> It's not legal to drive on the ****ing shoulder, the grass, or in
>> the closed and coned off lane of the work zone, you dumb ****ing asshole!

> If you have choices of a left and middle lane... there's a choice of
> the right lane, no need to use the ****ing shoulder, the grass, etc.
> If the R lane is coned off it ceases to exist as an option.

Damn, you're a dumb ****ing troll. I'll go over it slowly. When the
choices are to move to the middle or left lanes, where is the driver to
start with? THE RIGHT LANE, dumb****. If he's to move right, it's off the
legal roadway. Stupid, ****ing trucker.


>> > Almost every post you make reveals you shouldn't be allowed to drive a
>> > golf cart, a golf ball, a bicycle, or a nail, much less a motorized
>> > vehicle.

>> I'll bet you got your CDL by bribing someone in the IL SOS office.

> Ouch, that really hurts coming from a guy who, by his own reports, so
> obviously has inordinate amounts of difficulty negotiating ordinary
> traffic situations.

You're so stupid you can't figure out the difference between 'difficulty'
and 'complaint'. Then again, that's just the kind of dumb **** the IL SOS
office sells CDL's to.

gpsman wrote:
> On Jun 25, 1:03 pm, (Brent P)
> wrote:
>
>>In article >, John A. Weeks III wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article >,
>>> (Brent P) wrote:
>>
>>>>In article . com>, gpsman
>>>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>What very few have seen is a slower vehicle "run over" by faster
>>>>>traffic, trailer or no.
>>
>>>>If someone driving 45mph would need to so much as tap the brakes, he
>>>>would get run over the by the semi drafting him 3 feet off his rear
>>>>bumper.
>>
>>>That is BS.
>>
>>I'll take you for a ride through I-294's work zone.
>
>
> No need, just post a news report of a semi rear-ending any -moving-
> vehicle, on any freeway, anywhere, anytime. Of course it occurs, but
> it is exceedingly rare.
>
>
>>>You need to be in control of your own vehicle,
>>>and let the other people drive their own vehicles.
>>
>>Doesn't change the fact there's a semi riding one's rear bumper.
>
>
> Which is irrelevant to operating one's own vehicle and letting other
> drivers operate theirs. As they say in trucking; you drive your rig,
> and I'll drive mine.
>
>
>>> Speeding
>>>up out of your fear of your lack of ability to handle a traffic
>>>situation is about the worst possible thing you can do at that
>>>time. If you cannot handle a vehicle the way it is supposed
>>>to be driven, then get off of the road.
>>
>>Wether I can 'handle it' or not is not relevant. The fact of the matter
>>is that the situation does occur. BTW, the way to handle it, the only way
>>to get the semi off one's ass and not be replaced by another or a more
>>dangerous situation.... (ie doing 45mph in the left or middle lanes) is
>>to well, go faster. Slowing to 35 doesn't give a trucker a hint... too
>>dumb I guess.
>
>
> <spit take> Why not move right, you ****ing moron?
>

It's illegal to drive on the shoulder.

> Almost every post I make reveals that I shouldn't be allowed to drive a
> golf cart, a golf ball, a bicycle, or a nail, much less a motorized
> vehicle.
> -----

Fixed that for you.

nate

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In article >,
Nate Nagel > wrote:

> at this late date I can't remember which company it was - Penske
> maybe? - that I was forced to rent from because of my then-GF's
> employer picking up the tab, which provided me with a raging Chevy
> 366 gas motor for a 24 foot moving truck... and a 70 MPH speed
> limiter, to add insult to injury.

You were lucky. Our Penske 24-footer with its gargantuan engine (minus
the oil-fill-tube cap) was limited to 65 on our 2,000 mile cross-country
move. Had a great radio, though.

On Jun 26, 8:23 am, wrote:
> In article >,
> Nate Nagel > wrote:
>
> > at this late date I can't remember which company it was - Penske
> > maybe? - that I was forced to rent from because of my then-GF's
> > employer picking up the tab, which provided me with a raging Chevy
> > 366 gas motor for a 24 foot moving truck... and a 70 MPH speed
> > limiter, to add insult to injury.
>
> You were lucky. Our Penske 24-footer with its gargantuan engine (minus
> the oil-fill-tube cap) was limited to 65 on our 2,000 mile cross-country
> move. Had a great radio, though.


Am I the only one a little dismayed at this line of thinking... are we
entitled to speed? ( I know a few limited places are 70, but the rest
top out at 65 or 55 )

You are driving a vehicle that acts unlike most other vehicles you
have driven, it has a mass probably 6 to 10 times greater than the
vehicles you have driven, and by it's very nature it's a danger to
yourself and others. Their are a million little things that could go
wrong at any moment and you really want to add a slowed reaction time
and longer stop to the mix by speeding?

While speeding may be as common as the smog it does not mean we are
entitled to flaunt the law.

-Eric
http://brontide.blogspot.com/